[X] Apologize to Nagato
- [X] "I... Look, I was just minding my own business, she ran up and told me to go home, so I said 'No you', and... I didn't mean to make her cry-"

Yeah, dunno where this Hoppo sympathy is coming from. She was being a brat, with the plane throwing, and the communication sabotage, and the constantly telling us "Go home"

And then she starts tearing up over a little "No you" comeback? Yeahno, sorry, my level of Fucks are equal to Willie's. None to report.

Edit: Vote altered. I still stand by my comments about Hoppo being terrible.
 
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[X] Quartermaster repeats, Quartermaster repeats, no damns or fucks left on board, no damns or fucks left on board. Standing ground, repeat standing ground.
[X] "Is there a problem, Nagato?"

Yeah, dunno where this Hoppo sympathy is coming from. She was being a brat, with the plane throwing, and the communication sabotage, and the constantly telling us "Go home"

And then she starts tearing up over a little "No you" comeback? Yeahno, sorry, my level of Fucks are equal to Willie's. None to report.

Plane throwing is play, it didn't even reach so she wasn't trying to Hit Willie. That is not being a brat.

For the communications sabotage, Willie neither knows Hoppo's motivation, nor is it certain that the communications didn't cut out before Hoppo tore out the wires.

She could've felt bad that Willie was getting into trouble and thought they couldn't punish her if they couldn't report to the Admiral.

She may have even actually prevented an e-mail from Iowa from getting through!

As to Willie "having done nothing wrong" the damage to the base would disfavor that opinion.

Nagamom also isn't going to share that opinion, after having seen her 'guest' tell her adopted child she isn't really hers.

Which is what "No, you go home!" when told to a child that is with her Mother means.

Whereas for Hoppo "Go home" is literally all she can say, and is a shortening of her name.

As for Willie, she is a soldier on a mission with diplomacy as a side goal, and "standing her ground" against an enraged mom, because she has "done nothing wrong" is a failed mission.

Especially when her superior will clearly state that Willie has done everything wrong since she arrived!
 
For the communications sabotage, Willie neither knows Hoppo's motivation, nor is it certain that the communications didn't cut out before Hoppo tore out the wires.
This sounds like nothing more than pure hope that Hoppo didn't do it, when signs point to Yes.

Nagamom also isn't going to share that opinion, after having seen her 'guest' tell her adopted child she isn't really hers.

Which is what "No, you go home!" when told to a child that is with her Mother means.
Uh huh, I'm not even sure of what you are saying here.

Especially when her superior will clearly state that Willie has done everything wrong since she arrived!
Said superior has a clear bias against Willie, and hence is not reliable.
 
[X] Quartermaster repeats, Quartermaster repeats, no damns or fucks left on board, no damns or fucks left on board. Standing ground, repeat standing ground.
[X] Fight!
-[X] CHARGE INTO THE BREACH, THAT OLD BINT CAN'T HIT THE SIDE OF A MIDWAY IF SHE WAS STANDING ON ITS DECK
WITNESS WILLY
 
Nagamom also isn't going to share that opinion, after having seen her 'guest' tell her adopted child she isn't really hers.

Which is what "No, you go home!" when told to a child that is with her Mother means.

Given that we didn't know Nagato was around at that point (which Yamato can confirm, since we asked her afterwards) the more charitable interpretation would be that we assumed Hoppo had wandered off the base alone somehow and we were telling her to go back.

Anyway, I still just want to see Willie end up on Nagato's "list of cute things to be protected" because of the potential hilarity. :V
 
[X] Quartermaster repeats, Quartermaster repeats, no damns or fucks left on board, no damns or fucks left on board. Standing ground, repeat standing ground.
[X] "Is there a problem, Nagato?"
 
For the communications sabotage, Willie neither knows Hoppo's motivation, nor is it certain that the communications didn't cut out before Hoppo tore out the wires.

She could've felt bad that Willie was getting into trouble and thought they couldn't punish her if they couldn't report to the Admiral.

She may have even actually prevented an e-mail from Iowa from getting through!

Yeah, we have no way of knowing her motivation. But considering that she literally greeted us with the cold shoulder and a "Go home", I'm not inclined to assume that she's got Willie's best interests at heart. It'd be one thing if she were trying to be friendly and Willie just blew her off, but no, Willie was pretty polite up until the PTSD thing.

If you're trying to make me feel guilty, best stop now dude. I'm really not sorry for my vote. Hoppo's a brat, I don't like her, and 'being kind of cute' doesn't excuse her behavior. I mean, just now? We were in a bath, minding our own business, then SHE'S there and she says "Go home"

Fuck off, kid, we weren't bothering you. We didn't even say 'What are YOU doing here?' in a snappy tone. You spoke up first, and were rude. Which is probably what I'll vote for Willie to say to Nagato if she brings it up.

If we did hurt Hoppo's feelings, oh well. We didn't do anything she hasn't been doing to us ever since we arrived. Girl needs to learn that if you're a brat to people then people probably won't like you.
 
[x] Flee at flank speed. You ain't Johnston. You're not crazy enough to take on a pissed off battleship.
First, I think it is worth noting that Willie D. is on the list of destroyers willing to shoot at a Battleship. That's why Iowa still doesn't like us.

Second, that list is quite a bit longer than just Taffy 3. As a service, here's a few more:
  • Edsall, who – after dodging over 1300 shells – got a torpedo off before she sank from air attacks.
  • Destroyer Squadron 21, who helped brutally maul Hiei at Guadalcanal.
  • Melvin, who sank Fusou.
  • Bennion, who sank Yamashiro.
Lastly, fleeing merely puts you at a range where you can't shoot them, but the battleship can shoot you, so I'd advise against it.
 
Lastly, fleeing merely puts you at a range where you can't shoot them, but the battleship can shoot you, so I'd advise against it.

Besides, if we're really scared... aren't we still sitting next to a battleship with approximately two and a half metric fucktons of armor? Just hide behind Yamato if it comes down to it.
 
If this wasn't a light-hearted comedy, Willie would already be cooling her heels in the brig awaiting a court martial.

Even as it is most of you are voting at pushing even that leniacy, by picking a fight with the second highest ranking officer at the base you are stationed at!

At this point you would earn [Enemy - Nagato] and [Enemy - Iowa] even in a comedy.

And Hoppo has the right to tell Willie to "Go Home!", every child has the right to tell a stranger that hugs them out of nowhere to "Go Home!"

And if you absolutely refuse to see anything wrong with the way Willie has behaved, refuse to even consider Nagamon's perspective and feelings, and just want to bask in self congratulation a for making a child cry...

...Then don't be surprised if Nagamon and the entire Japanese Fleet finds Willie a repugnant "tourist" and the American fleet considers her an embarrassment!

It does not vindicate Willie even the smallest of bits whether you are right about Hoppo's personality and or intentions. You are not her judge and the communication equipment she damaged does not belong to you.

Nagato is not suddenly going to turn around, say "Oh you are right! That was so silly of me to be attached to that disgusting abyssal! You've been nothing but a Saint since you've gotten here!"
 
And Hoppo has the right to tell Willie to "Go Home!", every child has the right to tell a stranger that hugs them out of nowhere to "Go Home!"
She was saying "Go Home!" even before that.

just want to bask in self congratulation a for making a child cry...
*raises eyebrow*

I also notice you completely ignored that we try to stay away from Hoppo at all times, and she keeps approaching us intent on causing trouble for us.
 
The point is that this IS a military base. It's crazy to have any member of the enemy just... sitting around. All Willie D.id was to take a firm hand, after all the trouble she's caused.

It's not like Willie slapped the kid, and what she said certainly doesn't constitute as bullying except in the broadest sense. If Nagato can't control her adopted Abyssal, then that's her thing to deal with.
 
She was saying "Go Home!" even before that.

*raises eyebrow*

I also notice you completely ignored that we try to stay away from Hoppo at all times, and she keeps approaching us intent on causing trouble for us.

Pretty much this. Look at this situation in the baths.
  1. Willie gets off the base to see Japan
  2. Willie enjoys her massage and goes to a bath to relax
  3. Hoppo is suddenly there.
    1. We did not seek out Hoppo or intend to harass her. We were minding our own business.
  4. Hoppo tells Willie "Go home"
    1. We didn't even say anything to Hoppo, and she was saying this crap to us from the moment we saw her. Without us having done anything to her. She's not a sweet innocent that was minding her own business when we stole her ice cream, she's been rude and disruptive from day one.
  5. Willie responds with a halfhearted "No, you." Which honestly could have meant "Go back to the base" (which is what I meant)
  6. Willie did NOT know that Hoppo was there with Nagato. Nagato wasn't in the baths.
If Hoppo DID take that to mean "Go back to the Pacific Subduction Zone" then maybe an apology is in order, but Hoppo has done nothing in the quest to make me sympathize with her, and if she took the weakest comeback this side of "Your mom" personally then what the fuck ever.

As far as I as a member of the Quest goes, and as far as Willie's own experience with Hoppo goes, Hoppo's just being antagonistic. And being 'cute' (which frankly she's not even that cute) is no excuse for her behavior. If I had to deal with a brat like Hoppo while I was relaxing in a public hot tub, I'd probably be asking where her mother was or something.
 
Hoppou is not nice. Not to us at least. Make no mistake: No matter how cute they can sometimes be, kids can be jerks of the highest caliber.

That said, cute-trolling Nagato > crashing this plane with no survivors. Plus, responding to antagonistic Hoppou with grumbles isn't, realistically, a big deal. Antagonizing the battleship might be. Unless they don't care because Japan apparently runs on crazy in this quest. (Also depends on where Yamato falls in all this, but I'd rather not risk it.)
 
Hoppou is not nice. Not to us at least. Make no mistake: No matter how cute they can sometimes be, kids can be jerks of the highest caliber.

That said, cute-trolling Nagato > crashing this plane with no survivors. Plus, responding to antagonistic Hoppou with grumbles isn't, realistically, a big deal. Antagonizing the battleship might be. Unless they don't care because Japan apparently runs on crazy in this quest. (Also depends on where Yamato falls in all this, but I'd rather not risk it.)
... You might have a point.

*Goes back to edit post*
 
the more charitable interpretation would be that we assumed Hoppo had wandered off the base alone somehow and we were telling her to go back.
  1. Willie responds with a halfhearted "No, you." Which honestly could have meant "Go back to the base" (which is what I mean.
If Hoppo DID take that to mean "Go back to the Pacific Subduction Zone" then maybe an apology is in order, but Hoppo has done nothing in the quest to make me sympathize with her, and if she took the weakest comeback this side of "Your mom" personally then what the fuck ever.

As far as I as a member of the Quest goes, and as far as Willie's own exper

Nagato isn't going to believe that blatent of a LIE.

If a nurse tells a patient its their time for a suppository and the patients reply is, "No, You." The court isn't going to believe the patient only meant she needed medication.

Nagato wouldn't understand the vocabulary explaining the context behind words, but people generally understand what other people are really saying as part and parcel to communication, and a claim that one was ignorant of the context in which a statement was taken is incredulous.

Nagato tearfully exclaims, "Hoppo has run away! Quick we must find her!"

"Does anyone have any idea why she would feel unwanted?" She adds.

Especially when NO ONE questioned why Hoppo would run awayin tthat little post I wrote before Half the people voted for that option.

The context of "Go Home!" inherently meens that you do not belong where you are. It was clear that Hoppo meant all of Japan in her statement and just as clear that the original poster had intended to hurt Hoppo with the reply.

It is very clear the original poster meant that Hoppo does not belong in Japan, and as easily clear even to people who lack the vocabulary to call out a backpedaling as the Bull-Shit it is!

And even had it not been I spelled it out before the vote was called, so claims of ignorance are dishonest!




And you still don't get it HOPPO is not your opponent here, NAGATO is the one furious with you.

And people tend to take it even worse when you LIE after making their child cry!

And you need to sympathize with NAGATO, its your duty, your standing orders, to fight her is to disobey orders!

Furthermore acting the way Willie has so far would have had much worse consequences in real life. The Japanese papers would have a field day! You will likely see jail time in real life if you can't see that other people don't see events the same way you do!
 
You say that like it's unique to the quest.
Well, let's see. BelaBatts is pretty sane. KCQ is pretty insane, but individual people are insane, rather than everything as a whole being insane. Also the insanity isn't uniquely Japanese there.

This is the only KanColle related thing I've seen so far (that's reasonably active and popular) where Japan as a whole is definitely insane. :V
 
Well, GG is somewhat insane in a similar but still separate manner to KCQ.
Also, while BelBatt is fairly sane, by virtue of its fluffy nature it's also darn "mildly military".
 
It's funny that we're talking about things that would happen in an actual military setting, because I'm pretty sure 'literally keeping one of the enemy in your base unmonitored' is way the fuck up there on Shit That Will Get You Court Martialed.
 
just as clear that the original poster had intended to hurt Hoppo with the reply.

I'll just be blunt with this. GOOD!

I thought that I had made this very clear, but right now I dislike this Hoppo more than I do anime Shimakaze, though she has yet to beat out spin-off-manga Shimakaze. When you had that post about Nagato asking why Hoppo would run off, I still didn't care.

I'm willing to play nice-ish with Nagato, but frankly the little shit Hoppo has been horrible enough to us that I see no reason to be nice to the thing. She's been rude, she's been seeking us out to harass us, when we were minding our own business.

Fuck Hoppo. She's not that cute, she's obnoxious, and in the context of this quest, I don't find her funny. Just annoying. I have no guilt towards my vote, nor do I have any goodwill built up towards Hoppo, nor will I automatically be cowed for sniping back at a little brat. I don't care if we hurt her feelings with a half-assed "No you", I don't care if she felt unappreciated by us, I don't care if she runs off after someone didn't immediately excuse her behavior with an "Aw, the little demon ghost ship monster that happens to look like a little girl didn't MEAN it!"

Because remember: We don't know how Abyssals work. She only LOOKS like a little doll. She's still one of the creatures in the sea attacking ships and other human gear. She's just disarmed, and happens to look kind of cute.

And "Repercussions in the real world"? One, trying to apply real-world logic to this quest sounds like a fool's errand. Two, what would be a bigger field day? "American Shipgirl Rude To Japanese Base's Pet Abyssal" or "HOLY SHIT THE NAVAL BASE HAS A PET ABYSSAL"?
 
If this wasn't a light-hearted comedy, Willie would already be cooling her heels in the brig awaiting a court martial.

Even as it is most of you are voting at pushing even that leniacy, by picking a fight with the second highest ranking officer at the base you are stationed at!

At this point you would earn [Enemy - Nagato] and [Enemy - Iowa] even in a comedy.

And Hoppo has the right to tell Willie to "Go Home!", every child has the right to tell a stranger that hugs them out of nowhere to "Go Home!"
Yes we were a little weird when we first met Hoppo but living on a base with shipgirls of any nation should make someone used to strange things happening every now and then, being randomly hugged isn't that traumatizing, espescially considering Willie is/appears as a teenage girl.

Had our PTSD not triggered her throwing a plush at an older girl for randomly hugging her would have been the end of it. Sure Hoppo probably wasn't trying to give us flashbacks but she did. When we get in shit for it and try to explain ourselves to a superior who doesn't hate us she sabotages comms? At that point she's clearly being malicious.

And if you absolutely refuse to see anything wrong with the way Willie has behaved, refuse to even consider Nagamon's perspective and feelings, and just want to bask in self congratulation a for making a child cry...
And you still don't get it HOPPO is not your opponent here, NAGATO is the one furious with you.

And people tend to take it even worse when you LIE after making their child cry!

And you need to sympathize with NAGATO, its your duty, your standing orders, to fight her is to disobey orders!

Furthermore acting the way Willie has so far would have had much worse consequences in real life. The Japanese papers would have a field day! You will likely see jail time in real life if you can't see that other people don't see events the same way you do!

Other incidents aside how can anything we've done here be considered abnormal? Someone we don't get along with shows up in our bath and tells us to "go home" we respond with "no you" and suddenly we're evil for abusing Hoppo and instigating fights with foreign officers? How on earth could that interaction be anything but 2 people having an argument?

Also I would like to see our blatant lie where we claim to not have made a child cry? Saying "Is there a problem" is kind of a dick move but how is it something along the lines of making a kid cry and then denying it to their watching parents face?
 
The context of "Go Home!" inherently meens that you do not belong where you are. It was clear that Hoppo meant all of Japan in her statement and just as clear that the original poster had intended to hurt Hoppo with the reply.

It is very clear the original poster meant that Hoppo does not belong in Japan, and as easily clear even to people who lack the vocabulary to call out a backpedaling as the Bull-Shit it is!
You know, it occurs tome that this interpretation is making a lot of assumptions from a pretty limited amount of information.
 
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