Don't Miss Your Deadline! (Manga Editor Quest)

[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about the reasons of his insecurities and about what the teacher knows about him.
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.

[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] Maybe the Necromancer should keep his original body, this would make him look more unique and could lead to it's own problems in the future because he wasn't given a do-over via a new body.

@ziizo I agree but I didn't know know what the words "dort of" were supposed to be. I replaced them with wasn't if that's what you meant.
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about the reasons of his insecurities and about what the teacher knows about him.
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.


[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] Maybe the Necromancer should keep his original body, this would make him look more unique and could lead to it's own problems in the future because he wasn't given a do-over via a new body.
 
What if Gendoy already has plans for plots involving the necromancer being in the heros body? The gods are already fairly involved, they probably already told someone to look for the hero.
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.

[X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)

I changed my vote to add the third suggestion because I am convinced that if Yuzuki doesn't start to think of how to make the setting work for her to make an interesting Slice of Life experience and tell well-worn tropes and plots in a fresh and interesting manner drawing on the potential of this setting, this manga probably isn't going to last that long. But because of her confidence, being careful to word this is a must.

Gendou's script is sound if he can figure how to pace it properly to fit into a pilot chapter, so I am banking on the extra re-roll helping him if he runs into this issue.
 
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For this kind of early stuff, it'd be good if we could get some info about the future plans- if there's major plots planned involving the necromancer being cursed or having the hero's body. If it's going to be plot-significant, they should be kept in. If it was more of a "throw it in" thing then they shouldn't.
 
[x] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[x] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[x] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.

[x] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)

I am against making a change in GELE just for the sake of changing it. Gendou probably intended for there to be shennanigans related to how he would look heroic while he is a villain on the inside, I see no reason to make him throw them away unnecessarily for shennanigans related to how he looks villaneous. Both plots are equally valid, so we should go with the authors vison over the editors in this case. We dont want to be the guy that is constantly meddling.
 
I'm gonna put some thoughts out there on the Lesser Evil, Greater Evil premise:

I guess one thing that might need to be nailed down is how powerful the necromancer actually is. Given the initial plot, he apparently has magic that he wants to fuel via souls, but he also resorts to a pitfall trap vs the Hero and only has basic undead. So he seems to be on the less powerful side as far as things go? On a similar vein of thought, is this like a lich only bones necromancer kind of deal, or like a still human but dabbling in the dark arts thing? Not quite sure where I'm going with this, just trying to narrow things down.

I've got mixed feelings in regards to the whole 'cursed by the gods' thing. On the narrative side of things, it gives the main character weaknesses and challenges and stuff, and that's always good. But on the plot cohesion side of things, if the gods are capable of cursing people like that and even obliterating their souls, why haven't they done that to the Demon King? (Assuming there's a Demon King that the Hero was summoned to fight, but c'mon, it's always a Demon King) There are probably plot-handwavy things you can come up with to get around this, but it's something to keep in mind.

A potential way to go through the chapter without meeting the gods is have the Hero come in, do his thing, trash the necromancer's place, and then die to the spike trap. Necromancer captures the Hero's soul, but then the resurrection process starts. Maybe have the resurrection be an automated process so there can be some pre-recorded lines from the gods offering exposition or saying something that gives the necromancer a reason to try and do good things? Anyway, we see the Hero's body wake up in a church, and then like a close up on his shocked face with a thought bubble that says "Why am I in this kid's body!?" or something to that effect.

Hmm, maybe a reason for the necromancer to try and do good could be an enchantment on the Holy Sword? Maybe it can only be held by the righteous or something, so the necromancer needs to do enough good to be able to use the Holy Sword, which he wants to be able to do because it's uber-powerful? Maybe the sword could have a limited tank of energy it uses up to do sword-beams and other cool stuff, which refills when it's wielder does good deeds? That only covers an initial motivator for trying to help people, and doesn't give a specific reason to try and save the world, though. Hmm, maybe that could come up later and the necromancer just finds out there's some big evil out there after stopping a cult or whatever, and stops them because he kind of needs the world to still exist to be able to live? Eh, that feels a bit weak.

Eh, nevermind. The gods laying down curses on the necromancer is probably a better initial start than that. Just gotta handwave the gods not solving the plot by cursing the bad guys somehow. Maybe whatever the enemy is, they have a rival pantheon backing them up, sufficient to ward off curses from these gods?


Anyway, another way the necromancer-protag can potentially get stronger as the story goes on is via his necromancy. Think about it; he can apparently fuel his spells via souls, so what looks to some people like the Hero valiantly slaying a band of orcs could be the necromancer getting enough souls to cast a dozen Fireballs or Chain Lightnings. It could be used as a play on RPG mechanics; the necromancer grows stronger by killing monsters because he's consuming their souls. And maybe powerful souls could retain an ability or two that they pass on to the necromancer, thus allowing him to grow in power when he beats a 'boss'. Although that feels like something that'd have to be restricted to very few characters if it was implemented, otherwise the main character would snowball too quickly. Probably only like Demon Lieutenants/Generals, assuming this manga has them (or similar foes that are powerful and limited in number).


Don't have concrete suggestions in mind, but figured I'd post my spitballing to see if it could be of some use.
 
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[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.

[X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)

For this kind of early stuff, it'd be good if we could get some info about the future plans- if there's major plots planned involving the necromancer being cursed or having the hero's body. If it's going to be plot-significant, they should be kept in. If it was more of a "throw it in" thing then they shouldn't.
With how cutthroat and cancellation prone the manga industry can get I don't think it's possible we can get any future plans that doesn't revolve around one or two chapters until they are popular enough to do arcs. While sure Gendou was a light novel author his experience would be volume by volume so I expect maybe he has a vague idea for the first tankobon but I doubt he has anything too far ahead like our isekai teacher mangaka who is doing something episodic.
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about the reasons of his insecurities and about what the teacher knows about him.
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.


[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] Maybe the Necromancer should keep his original body, this would make him look more unique and could lead to it's own problems in the future because he wasn't given a do-over via a new body.
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.

[X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)
 
[x] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[x] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[x] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
[x] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
 
[x] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[x] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[x] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
[x] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.

[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] This is quite a busy chapter, maybe he can shorten the part with the gods to focus more on the Hero (might want to make him less unsympathetic so that his death hits harder?) and his fight with the Necromancer? For instance, he could leave the reveal of the "minor curses" as a surprise for the next chapter. (Have the Necromancer walk through town, and all the stray dogs and alley cats suddenly try to gnaw on him, revealing the Curse of the Nature Goddess. Or he's excited to go to the local bathhouse again for the first time in forever, only to end up nearly drowning due to the Curse of the Sea Goddess.)
-[X] The "Major Curse", as you'll call it, works in setting an overarching goal. (Though maybe 1 year to save the world is a bit short?) But he should think about ways to make the Necromancer grow in the short term. Maybe one of the "minor curses" requires him to do a good deed every couple days, and if he fails his other curses will become nearly unbearable? Maybe he can lift the curses if he meets a certain milestone, accomplishes a certain feat, or completes a quest for the god who placed the curse on him? Or perhaps even reverse them, like turning the curse that makes him delicious to animals into a blessing that allows him to control animals? Obviously we'll discuss this further in future chapters, but it can't hurt to have him already start thinking about ideas.
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.

[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] This is quite a busy chapter, maybe he can shorten the part with the gods to focus more on the Hero (might want to make him less unsympathetic so that his death hits harder?) and his fight with the Necromancer? For instance, he could leave the reveal of the "minor curses" as a surprise for the next chapter. (Have the Necromancer walk through town, and all the stray dogs and alley cats suddenly try to gnaw on him, revealing the Curse of the Nature Goddess. Or he's excited to go to the local bathhouse again for the first time in forever, only to end up nearly drowning due to the Curse of the Sea Goddess.)
 
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[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
[X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)
No. of Votes: 4
[X] geogio13
[x] Bakkasama
[x] Mayrun
[x] TimEd

[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.
[X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)
No. of Votes: 4
[X] Solarstream
[X] ALanos
[X] Andmeuths
[X] Hadrian98

[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about the reasons of his insecurities and about what the teacher knows about him.
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] Maybe the Necromancer should keep his original body, this would make him look more unique and could lead to it's own problems in the future because he wasn't given a do-over via a new body.
No. of Votes: 4
[X] ziizo
[X] ConfusedCanuck
[X] Moon
[X] TheodorePiesley

[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] GrayGriffin
[X] peterclipper

[X] (Yuzuki) Accept as is (give Yuzuki an extra reroll)
[X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Parzival

[X] (Yuzuki) Accept as is (give Yuzuki an extra reroll)
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. So rather than ask her to rewrite the current chapter, you'll leave it as it is and instead task her with coming up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.
[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] This is quite a busy chapter, maybe he can shorten the part with the gods to focus more on the Hero (might want to make him less unsympathetic so that his death hits harder?) and his fight with the Necromancer? For instance, he could leave the reveal of the "minor curses" as a surprise for the next chapter. (Have the Necromancer walk through town, and all the stray dogs and alley cats suddenly try to gnaw on him, revealing the Curse of the Nature Goddess. Or he's excited to go to the local bathhouse again for the first time in forever, only to end up nearly drowning due to the Curse of the Sea Goddess.)
-[X] The "Major Curse", as you'll call it, works in setting an overarching goal. (Though maybe 1 year to save the world is a bit short?) But he should think about ways to make the Necromancer grow in the short term. Maybe one of the "minor curses" requires him to do a good deed every couple days, and if he fails his other curses will become nearly unbearable? Maybe he can lift the curses if he meets a certain milestone, accomplishes a certain feat, or completes a quest for the god who placed the curse on him? Or perhaps even reverse them, like turning the curse that makes him delicious to animals into a blessing that allows him to control animals? Obviously we'll discuss this further in future chapters, but it can't hurt to have him already start thinking about ideas.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] overmind

[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.
[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] This is quite a busy chapter, maybe he can shorten the part with the gods to focus more on the Hero (might want to make him less unsympathetic so that his death hits harder?) and his fight with the Necromancer? For instance, he could leave the reveal of the "minor curses" as a surprise for the next chapter. (Have the Necromancer walk through town, and all the stray dogs and alley cats suddenly try to gnaw on him, revealing the Curse of the Nature Goddess. Or he's excited to go to the local bathhouse again for the first time in forever, only to end up nearly drowning due to the Curse of the Sea Goddess.)
-[X] The "Major Curse", as you'll call it, works in setting an overarching goal. (Though maybe 1 year to save the world is a bit short?) But he should think about ways to make the Necromancer grow in the short term. Maybe one of the "minor curses" requires him to do a good deed every couple days, and if he fails his other curses will become nearly unbearable? Maybe he can lift the curses if he meets a certain milestone, accomplishes a certain feat, or completes a quest for the god who placed the curse on him? Or perhaps even reverse them, like turning the curse that makes him delicious to animals into a blessing that allows him to control animals? Obviously we'll discuss this further in future chapters, but it can't hurt to have him already start thinking about ideas.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Alikard310

[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
-[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.
[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] This is quite a busy chapter, maybe he can shorten the part with the gods to focus more on the Hero (might want to make him less unsympathetic so that his death hits harder?) and his fight with the Necromancer? For instance, he could leave the reveal of the "minor curses" as a surprise for the next chapter. (Have the Necromancer walk through town, and all the stray dogs and alley cats suddenly try to gnaw on him, revealing the Curse of the Nature Goddess. Or he's excited to go to the local bathhouse again for the first time in forever, only to end up nearly drowning due to the Curse of the Sea Goddess.)
No. of Votes: 1
[X] The Richmaster


Total No. of Voters: 18

Here's the current tally. Next time I'll need to remember to make this kind of thing a plan vote. But in the meantime, I'll be closing this vote tomorrow, so anyone who wants to join in had better do it quick.
 
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[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about the reasons of his insecurities and about what the teacher knows about him.
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] Maybe the Necromancer should keep his original body, this would make him look more unique and could lead to it's own problems in the future because he wasn't given a do-over via a new body
 
[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about the reasons of his insecurities and about what the teacher knows about him.
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
[X] (Gendou) Change a few things
-[X] Maybe the Necromancer should keep his original body, this would make him look more unique and could lead to it's own problems in the future because he wasn't given a do-over via a new body
 
Alright, I'm closing the vote now.

There's a weird tie, but since the top Gendou vote seems to be "Accept as is", I'd normally use the Yuzuki option that uses all three available suggestions. Buuuut, that third point ("You need to be careful how to word this...") isn't actually adding anything to this chapter, so I'll just stick to "Add a bit more focus on Edward" and "Make magic play a part in the issue".

So the winner is:
[X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)

[X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
-[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
-[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.


Scheduled vote count started by zamin on Sep 24, 2022 at 11:42 AM, finished with 57 posts and 21 votes.

  • [X] (Gendou) Accept as is (give Gendou an extra reroll)
    [X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
    -[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
    -[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
    [X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
    -[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about why the other characters care about him missing the school play (it could be because they put a lot of work on it, because someone important is going to watch it, because they think he is a good actor or because they care for him personally, etc) and about what the teacher knows about him (again, either to justify why he cares or why he finds him first)
    -[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
    -[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. Suggest she try to come up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.
    [X] (Yuzuki) Change a few things
    -[X] Add a bit more focus on Edward, about the reasons of his insecurities and about what the teacher knows about him.
    -[X] Since this is a magic school, make magic play a part in the issue. Maybe the reason that they can't find him is because he has some disguise magic or artifact on him as a costume and the reason the main character does find him is because either something he knows about him personally that has been mentioned beforehand or because of his own experience as a high school student helped him recognize where he might be hiding.
    [X] (Gendou) Change a few things
    -[X] Maybe the Necromancer should keep his original body, this would make him look more unique and could lead to it's own problems in the future because he wasn't given a do-over via a new body.
    [X] (Gendou) Change a few things
    -[X] This is quite a busy chapter, maybe he can shorten the part with the gods to focus more on the Hero (might want to make him less unsympathetic so that his death hits harder?) and his fight with the Necromancer? For instance, he could leave the reveal of the "minor curses" as a surprise for the next chapter. (Have the Necromancer walk through town, and all the stray dogs and alley cats suddenly try to gnaw on him, revealing the Curse of the Nature Goddess. Or he's excited to go to the local bathhouse again for the first time in forever, only to end up nearly drowning due to the Curse of the Sea Goddess.)
    -[X] The "Major Curse", as you'll call it, works in setting an overarching goal. (Though maybe 1 year to save the world is a bit short?) But he should think about ways to make the Necromancer grow in the short term. Maybe one of the "minor curses" requires him to do a good deed every couple days, and if he fails his other curses will become nearly unbearable? Maybe he can lift the curses if he meets a certain milestone, accomplishes a certain feat, or completes a quest for the god who placed the curse on him? Or perhaps even reverse them, like turning the curse that makes him delicious to animals into a blessing that allows him to control animals? Obviously we'll discuss this further in future chapters, but it can't hurt to have him already start thinking about ideas.
    [X] (Yuzuki) Accept as is (give Yuzuki an extra reroll)
    [X] (Yuzuki) Accept as is (give Yuzuki an extra reroll)
    -[X] You need to be careful how to word this without triggering Yuzuki's confidence issues. Plainly, the main problem you see with The Greatest Fake Teacher is that there's currently nothing that sets it apart from any generic High School Slice of Life manga, even though it's supposed to be set in a Magic Academy in a Fantasy World. To be clear, there'd be nothing wrong with continuing it as a Slice of Life, but she needs to find a way to distinguish it from the rest. So rather than ask her to rewrite the current chapter, you'll leave it as it is and instead task her with coming up with a few ideas for how she wants to proceed differently starting next week.
    [X] (Gendou) Change a few things
    -[X] This is quite a busy chapter, maybe he can shorten the part with the gods to focus more on the Hero (might want to make him less unsympathetic so that his death hits harder?) and his fight with the Necromancer? For instance, he could leave the reveal of the "minor curses" as a surprise for the next chapter. (Have the Necromancer walk through town, and all the stray dogs and alley cats suddenly try to gnaw on him, revealing the Curse of the Nature Goddess. Or he's excited to go to the local bathhouse again for the first time in forever, only to end up nearly drowning due to the Curse of the Sea Goddess.)
 
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Week 3 Rolling (Space Racer Subaru-kun Refinement)
Alright guys, it's been a loooong Week 3, but it's finally time for our favourite part: rolling. Refinement rolling, to be precise.

As a reminder, you currently have 4 series. This week, 2 of them were accepted as is (Our Daughter is Actually a Vampire! and Lesser Evil, Greater Evil) while suggestions were given for Space Racer Subaru-kun and The Greatest Fake Teacher. We're going to be doing Space Racer today and Lesser Evil, Greater Evil tomorrow.

So first up, here's a quick recap of this week's pitch as well as the suggestions you provided.

Space Racer Subaru-kun Chapter 3 Pitch:

The chapter starts as all the racers drive up to the starting line.

Subaru and Kiki's hover ship looks out of place among all the tracked, tank-like Juva vehicles. The other racers jeer and insult them as they pass.

The all-Juva crowd join in, saying that there's no way some outsider can win a race on their home turf and making bets on how fast they'll crash into the tunnel walls. Karidok, on the other hand, is ignoring everyone else and muttering something to one of his fellow racers in the background.

Finally, the race is set to begin. Once the countdown finishes, Subaru and Kiki immediately surge ahead of the pack, only to be forced to brake quickly as the path makes a sudden turn. The first few Juva racers zoom past, led by Karidok in his blinged out speeder-tank.

"Have fun driving around in the dark!" He mocks Subaru as he passes out of sight.

Feeling annoyed, Subaru revs his engine, only to be forced to pull up suddenly in order to avoid crashing into a stalagmite. He and Kiki struggle to keep up as the rest of the racers start pulling ahead.

The maze-like caves and tunnels that make up the racetrack are dark and cramped, with some places containing barely enough room for a single race ship. At one point, Subaru finds himself stuck behind another racer who deliberately slows down to block the passage.

As the tunnel finally gets big enough for Subaru to overtake him, they realize that this is the same racer that Karidok was speaking to earlier - they must have planned this out!

To make matters worse, most of the tunnels are pitch black. The Juva can see perfectly fine in the dark, but Subaru and Kiki have to slow down and drive carefully as their headlights can only extend so far.

Fortunately. Subaru has a secret weapon: the new upgrades that Old Man Lakus installed in the last chapter.

Flipping a switch, he activates the ship's new sonar sensors, which maps out the area around them. Spotting a shortcut he peels away from the pack and tears off in a different direction, prompting jeers from the competitors and audience alike who believe that he's gotten confused and turned around.

Meanwhile, Karidok is in the lead. Looking behind, he feels reassured as he sees no sign of Subaru's ship. As the finish line comes into sight, he laughs at the thought of some outsider brat thinking he could actually beat a Juva underground.

But suddenly, Subaru's ship bursts through the wall next to him, sending him veering off course! Subaru and Kiki steal the lead at the last second, dashing ahead to first place before anyone can stop them!

As they cheer and hug each other in front of the shocked audience, Karidok slams his fist onto his steering wheel, visibly denting it in his anger.

"Damn him! I'll make him pay for this insult!" he growls.

[X] (Tana) Change a few things
-[X] End the chapter midway through the race to pace it better.
-[X] Really focus on how the cave system is giving Subaru a hard time. Have him barely dodge obstacles, stop just in time to not crash, maybe even deal with weird fauna to really give the reader's a sense of peril.
-[X] To double down on the previous suggestion, maybe she can add some special effects to draw attention to a few panels where Subaru is really having a tough time.

Tana-sensei's bonuses:
  • New Mangaka: +5 to Writing and Art
  • Assistant (Endo Yusuke): +5 Art, +5 Layout/Backgrounds
Suggestion 1:
-[X] End the chapter midway through the race to pace it better.

This will be a Writing check with a DC of 30/60/90

Roll: 1d100 + 5 (New Mangaka)
  • Below 30: She follows your advice, but ends the chapter in an awkward spot (-5 Story)
  • 30+: The chapter ends with a cliffhanger as the heroes drive blindly into the darkness (No bonuses or penalties)
  • 60+: The chapter ends just as the Subaru dramatically reveals the ship's new sonar sensors (+5 Story)
  • 90+: The chapter's pacing is reworked in order to make the reveal as tense and exciting as possible (+10 Story)
Suggestion 2:
-[X] Really focus on how the cave system is giving Subaru a hard time. Have him barely dodge obstacles, stop just in time to not crash, maybe even deal with weird fauna to really give the reader's a sense of peril.

This will be a Writing check with a DC of 10/20/50/70/90

Roll: 1d100 + 5 (New Mangaka)
  • Below 10: The obstacles feel too contrived or easily skipped. (-5 Setting)
  • 10+: The race now looks a little more difficult than before (+5 Setting)
  • 20+: The race track looks pretty scary to drive through (+5 Setting, +5 Dynamic Art)
  • 50+: Subaru is clearly struggling to navigate this dark, twisting labyrinth of a race track (+5 Setting, +10 Dynamic Art)
  • 70+: The heroes run into some annoying local wildlife that they have to fight off while trying to avoid crashing into anything (+10 Setting, +10 Dynamic Art)
  • 90+: Kiki snatches up one of the bat-like creatures and swallows it whole in order to gain its dark vision (+10 Setting, +10 Dynamic Art, +5 Special Effects)
Suggestion 3:
-[X] To double down on the previous suggestion, maybe she can add some special effects to draw attention to a few panels where Subaru is really having a tough time.

This will be an Art check with a DC of 25/50/75

Roll: 1d100 + 5 (New Mangaka) + 5 (Assistant)
  • Below 25: Unfortunately, the new effects are too distracting and just makes things look more muddled and confusing than before (-5 Special Effects)
  • 25+: The race track dramatically goes from brightly lit into pitch blackness as the heroes turn the first corner (+5 Special Effects)
  • 50+: Subaru just barely avoids crashing into a wall, causing friction sparks and minor damage to his ship as he scrapes through (+10 Special Effects)
  • 75+: One of the other racers isn't so lucky and crashes right behind Subaru, causing a big, dramatic explosion (+15 Special Effects)
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To summarize, we've got three rolls here. Suggestion 1 and 2 are 1d100 + 5 while Suggestion 3 is 1d100 + 10.

Anyone who's interested in rolling can do so now. Just be sure to inform us which of these you're rolling for first. If nobody rolls within an hour, then I'll just do it myself.
  • Suggestion 1: 7 + 5 = 12 by Dark as Silver 22 + 5 = 27 by zamin (-5 Story)
  • Suggestion 2: 51 + 5 = 56 by yannoshka (+5 Setting, +10 Dynamic Art)
  • Suggestion 3: 91 + 10 = 101! by Kingster (+15 Special Effects)
Total bonuses:
Supporting Characters: +0
Story: -5
Setting: +5
Dialogue: +0

Layout/Background: +0
Characters: +0
Dynamic Art: +10
Special Effects: +15
 
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