Author, you mentioned gundam as one of the following possible worlds, more than moral dilemmas I am interested in robot battles. Have you read "The mech touch"?This is a world where people combine supernatural powers with technology. Mech pilots can break the shackles of mortality and become a demigod. This is what people are called who are able to distort reality with their willpower and perform impossible feats. Their path of development is quite interesting, because they develop by asserting their ideals in the world. Their power grows if they enforce their ideal through violence and regresses if they do nothing. These are people who would rather break than bend. An unworthy person cannot become a demigod. The strongest of them, living embodiments of their ideals, are god pilots, capable of destroying planets without difficulty.
In fact, without mechs, the power of the so-called demigods is quite modest. It's no secret that the power of weapons is closely related to scale, mechs are the brightest representative of this rule of thumb. Instead of strengthening their weak mortal body, mech pilots resonate with their mech, gaining dozens of times more combat power that they would otherwise receive at the same level of development without mechs.
You mentioned that you might send the main character to the world of gundam. And where Zagreus is, there are his disciples. Newtypes themselves are capable of distorting reality, probably the author of "The mech touch" was inspired by them, because extraordinary pilots have all the abilities of newtypes. What will a Greek cultivator and a newtype/mech pilot be capable of? I would like to know the answer to this question. I've always been interested in the intersection of technology and the supernatural. A symbiosis of both. I understand if you use pseudo susano zagreus for combat, but it would be great if he used mech.
This is also a recommendation of "The mech touch". The story is much deeper and more thoughtful than it seems at first glance. I recommend it to all fans of mechs.
 
While Normal cyberpunk is simply too low-level, there are many settings like Library of Ruina that have a pseudo-supernatural spunk to make a challenge. I am thinking of either Tales of Demons and Gods so he can shit on the MC for being a thousand years old creep trying to seduce a fourteen years old or Battle Through the Heavens since the MC starts out alright but become more crocked as the story goes on.
Sometimes the heroes of xiangxia need to kick ass. These worlds are often hopelessly corrupted. Xianxia roughly translates as "immortal hero", why is it rude? Because xian translates not only as "immortal", but also as "ideal person".
For the cliche of the main character, it is common to cut out an entire family for the contemptuous look of one person, along with women, children and the elderly, all in order to avoid revenge ...
I can understand the logic, but this should be the last resort, not the first thing the main character does when he is offended.
Where is the "ideal person" here?
He's just an overly proud tyrant, intoxicated by his own strength.
Although imagine that the plot twist is that the standard Xianxia world is actually the world of the Asuras, and not just a poorly written story. All are strong, aggressive and belligerent, but they do not shine with intelligence. (remember the elders of sects/clans who are hundreds of years old, but who are dumber than babies, stupid and aggressive young masters, etc.)
 
No, just no. I'm not going through this song and dance again.
People are so engaged in power scaling they forget if things had panned out as intended Eve Entity would never have died in the first place. Things went wrong and they kept on going wrong until the cavalcade of cascading failures resulted in Zion's death. It legitimately doesn't matter how strong the Entities are, they are limited existences in their own ways.
 
No, just no. I'm not going through this song and dance again.
I mean it's word of god from the author I don't know why people get mad at this shit or debate it. Even if wildbow can be a retconner and stuff. If he says 10^80th universes will be destroyed by their migration it's a fictional fucking setting I'm gonna take them at their word.
People are so engaged in power scaling they forget if things had panned out as intended Eve Entity would never have died in the first place. Things went wrong and they kept on going wrong until the cavalcade of cascading failures resulted in Zion's death. It legitimately doesn't matter how strong the Entities are, they are limited existences in their own ways.
I mean there are also countless other entities.
 
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People are so engaged in power scaling they forget if things had panned out as intended Eve Entity would never have died in the first place. Things went wrong and they kept on going wrong until the cavalcade of cascading failures resulted in Zion's death. It legitimately doesn't matter how strong the Entities are, they are limited existences in their own ways.
Yep, they guy wasnt able to protect himself from a single tinkerbomb, even if It was made from several tinkers his size was big enough to tank It
When you take out the scientistic hax and their high energy reserves, Entities as a species are unable to defend themselfs from threats or even react to them. Their fragments are so Big but in order to move or fly they require assistance from other shards and when you ask them of something they dont naturally know or understand like emotions or philosophy, they are unable to make conclussions.
And if you find yourself in their true bodies you could kill them and they wont be able to fight you fast enough to survive.
 
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Yep, they guy wasnt able to protect himself from a single tinkerbomb, even if It was made from several tinkers his size was big enough to tank It
When you take out the scientistic hax and their high energy reserves, Entities as a species are unable to defend themselfs from threats or even react to them. Their fragments are so Big but in order to move or fly they require assistance from other shards and when you ask them of something they dont naturally know or understand like emotions or philosophy, they are unable to make conclussions.
And if you find yourself in their true bodies you could kill them and they wont be able to fight you fast enough to survive.
Uh fairly sure they got gaslighted into suicide. Given you know for as powerful as they are their also really fucking stupid.they do not use their powers optimally fairly sure they operate with use whatever costs least energy to accomplish insert goal even if that's really stupid. Anyways it's not vs battle cause entities are ducking dumb sure they might be able to do something doesn't mean they will.
 
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Hmm if Zagreus does end up going to a place with example of ftl I wonder if he'd be able to figure out a way to travel on his own?
I still really want d&d ngl heck if Zagreus actually knows about the d&d setting he could even get spelljamers stuff. Though I'd be more interested in hell, magic, and gods. Gods who can't slap his shit in cause rules.
 
Uh fairly sure they got gaslighted into suicide. Given you know for as powerful as they are their also really fucking stupid.they do not use their powers optimally fairly sure they operate with use whatever costs least energy to accomplish insert goal even if that's really stupid. Anyways it's not vs battle cause entities are ducking dumb sure they might be able to do something doesn't mean they will.
They were gaslighted yes, but edén was killed by a knife and scion was killed by a tinker bomb made by several tinkers but with the normal shard restrictions. They dont have endbringer bodies or alexandria invulnerability because they are too costly for their true bodies, and use dimensional defenses to protect themselfs, but if you get there you can kill them if they dont defend themselfs. Of course they have precog , but It costs them so unless for análisis they dont have It always active
 
They were gaslighted yes, but edén was killed by a knife and scion was killed by a tinker bomb made by several tinkers but with the normal shard restrictions. They dont have endbringer bodies or alexandria invulnerability because they are too costly for their true bodies, and use dimensional defenses to protect themselfs, but if you get there you can kill them if they dont defend themselfs. Of course they have precog , but It costs them so unless for análisis they dont have It always active
In fairness they're not even really fully dead like a human would be they're more like brain dead with a lot of active and glitching shards.
 
Hmm if Zagreus does end up going to a place with example of ftl I wonder if he'd be able to figure out a way to travel on his own?
It will depend on how serious and physics-abiding the setting is. Some settings are just magic prettied up with technobabble; this is the reason a sci-fi setting disguised as a magical one like Fate has my respect for making fun of itself in events, Elisabet-particles was a stroke of genius. I will basically rule that the basic laws of different universes can be different enough to be incompatible, like in the case of TO ARU INDEX setting.
 
I still really want d&d ngl heck if Zagreus actually knows about the d&d setting he could even get spelljamers stuff. Though I'd be more interested in hell, magic, and gods. Gods who can't slap his shit in cause rules.
There is also an overlord (ranobe) magic system taken almost entirely from dnd. Players, NPCs and dragon lords are quite powerful. The players' equipment and world items are of interest. The armor and weapons of creatures that are often confused with gods will not be weak. World items are able to change the rules of the world forever, some take the form of weapons and armor, for example, the spear of longinus capable of annihilating any target along with those who used it, a mace each subsequent blow of which is twice as strong as the previous one (there is no limit), a picture in which you can put a piece of reality, an object capable of changing the magical system of the world, an object capable of imposing any rule on the world, a dress capable of subjugating the mind of someone who is immune to mind control. World objects are indestructible, although the strongest of them are disposable. In addition, other owners of world items are not affected by them. Also protected from them are the dragon lords, those who possess true magic (wild magic, soul magic, dragon magic) In fact, it is a divine power. Probably gods, demigods and people in the realm of heroes will be able to deny or resist their influence. So it won't be too unbalanced. Rank Magic - (DND magic) can be learned in this world. There are also martial techniques that use endurance as energy. The so-called magic of warriors.
 
And if you find yourself in their true bodies you could kill them and they wont be able to fight you fast enough to survive.
And who said you actually need to find their true bodies at all to strike at them? Zagreus fought Rher despite the distance between the Moon and Earth being about 384.400 km. This is the power of mysteries, natural phenomena that defy any explanation. Only Zagreus' distaste for said god prevents him from flaying any opponent in his way with madness. The kind of memetic hazard of the chaos gods variety is something these overgrown calculators were never meant to deal with.
 
What I would be more interested is what kind of cultivation would spawn from the influence of the entities.

They are advanced enough to be incomprehensible, machine gods who transcended the state of being a machine. To humans, their workings are a mystery in of itself, (and let's be honest, what they do is pretty much science* flavored magic). And their culture is defined by masks and roles, Hero, Villain and Rogues, never giving away your name.

The greatest problem is that since trigger events are a thing it can only go the way of exploring trauma in a way or another as a method of growth. Not the good kind of exploration though.
 
Yep, they guy wasnt able to protect himself from a single tinkerbomb, even if It was made from several tinkers his size was big enough to tank It
When you take out the scientistic hax and their high energy reserves, Entities as a species are unable to defend themselfs from threats or even react to them. Their fragments are so Big but in order to move or fly they require assistance from other shards and when you ask them of something they dont naturally know or understand like emotions or philosophy, they are unable to make conclussions.
And if you find yourself in their true bodies you could kill them and they wont be able to fight you fast enough to survive.
They were gaslighted yes, but edén was killed by a knife and scion was killed by a tinker bomb made by several tinkers but with the normal shard restrictions. They dont have endbringer bodies or alexandria invulnerability because they are too costly for their true bodies, and use dimensional defenses to protect themselfs, but if you get there you can kill them if they dont defend themselfs. Of course they have precog , but It costs them so unless for análisis they dont have It always active
Didn't Eden get crippled ramming into one version of earth? That earth also seemed to have taken a lot less damaged than she did from the crash.
I mean it's word of god from the author I don't know why people get mad at this shit or debate it. Even if wildbow can be a retconner and stuff. If he says 10^80th universes will be destroyed by their migration it's a fictional fucking setting I'm gonna take them at their word.

I mean there are also countless other entities.
10^80th universes or 10^80th versions of earth?
 
There is also an overlord (ranobe) magic system taken almost entirely from dnd. Players, NPCs and dragon lords are quite powerful. The players' equipment and world items are of interest. The armor and weapons of creatures that are often confused with gods will not be weak. World items are able to change the rules of the world forever, some take the form of weapons and armor, for example, the spear of longinus capable of annihilating any target along with those who used it, a mace each subsequent blow of which is twice as strong as the previous one (there is no limit), a picture in which you can put a piece of reality, an object capable of changing the magical system of the world, an object capable of imposing any rule on the world, a dress capable of subjugating the mind of someone who is immune to mind control. World objects are indestructible, although the strongest of them are disposable. In addition, other owners of world items are not affected by them. Also protected from them are the dragon lords, those who possess true magic (wild magic, soul magic, dragon magic) In fact, it is a divine power. Probably gods, demigods and people in the realm of heroes will be able to deny or resist their influence. So it won't be too unbalanced. Rank Magic - (DND magic) can be learned in this world. There are also martial techniques that use endurance as energy. The so-called magic of warriors.
Yggdrasil characters SEEM overpowered because Momonga is a level 30 lich wizard fighting a bunch of level 5 characters caped at 3rd level spells and medieval society. It is epic fantasy clashing with low fantasy situation. Nazarik is an 'epic guild' from a dying game. While the lore of the Wolrd Itens is interesting the plot never do something interesting with it. They are basically d&d artifacts in that regard.
Momonga had the good sense to play safe until he asserted he was the strongest thing in the world he landed in, but much of his protection lay in the fact he is untouchable because of his high number.
Damon Aethos was picking up islands the size of a city as a fresh hero, even if discounting this feat was accomplished at great personal cost. As a tyrant, he can orbital strike people by dropping stars on their heads.
Heroes have limits and weaknesses but Momonga doesn't know any so any such story would end in Zagreus mowing through Nazarick members the moment they started acting up and ending with Zagreus entombing the place instead of bothering with the Dungeon crawling non-sense.
Not a very interesting story. He is literally the worst hero they could fight against since he is tempered by Death, Life, and Madness so most of Momonga's kit is virtually useless. His favorite spell would result in him getting doused on greek fire and time stop won't work either after the Prison Realm.
That is why I discarded overlord. There is only one way this story to end - 'and then the monsters died and people rejoiced.'
 
Yggdrasil characters SEEM overpowered because Momonga is a level 30 lich wizard fighting a bunch of level 5 characters caped at 3rd level spells and medieval society. It is epic fantasy clashing with low fantasy situation. Nazarik is an 'epic guild' from a dying game. While the lore of the Wolrd Itens is interesting the plot never do something interesting with it. They are basically d&d artifacts in that regard.
Momonga had the good sense to play safe until he asserted he was the strongest thing in the world he landed in, but much of his protection lay in the fact he is untouchable because of his high number.
Damon Aethos was picking up islands the size of a city as a fresh hero, even if discounting this feat was accomplished at great personal cost. As a tyrant, he can orbital strike people by dropping stars on their heads.
Heroes have limits and weaknesses but Momonga doesn't know any so any such story would end in Zagreus mowing through Nazarick members the moment they started acting up and ending with Zagreus entombing the place instead of bothering with the Dungeon crawling non-sense.
Not a very interesting story. He is literally the worst hero they could fight against since he is tempered by Death, Life, and Madness so most of Momonga's kit is virtually useless. His favorite spell would result in him getting doused on greek fire and time stop won't work either after the Prison Realm.
That is why I discarded overlord. There is only one way this story to end - 'and then the monsters died and people rejoiced.'
I want to correct you, the overlord characters don't just seem strong, they are really strong by the standards of their world. Using your logic, we can say that no one is strong, because the strong are compared with the weak.

What about gundams? How does the power of zagreus correlate with gundam? I am tormented by the suspicion that it is not in favor of the latter.
 
There is also an overlord (ranobe) magic system taken almost entirely from dnd. Players, NPCs and dragon lords are quite powerful. The players' equipment and world items are of interest. The armor and weapons of creatures that are often confused with gods will not be weak. World items are able to change the rules of the world forever, some take the form of weapons and armor, for example, the spear of longinus capable of annihilating any target along with those who used it, a mace each subsequent blow of which is twice as strong as the previous one (there is no limit), a picture in which you can put a piece of reality, an object capable of changing the magical system of the world, an object capable of imposing any rule on the world, a dress capable of subjugating the mind of someone who is immune to mind control. World objects are indestructible, although the strongest of them are disposable. In addition, other owners of world items are not affected by them. Also protected from them are the dragon lords, those who possess true magic (wild magic, soul magic, dragon magic) In fact, it is a divine power. Probably gods, demigods and people in the realm of heroes will be able to deny or resist their influence. So it won't be too unbalanced. Rank Magic - (DND magic) can be learned in this world. There are also martial techniques that use endurance as energy. The so-called magic of warriors.
Eh I'd prefer d&d
 
I want to correct you, the overlord characters don't just seem strong, they are really strong by the standards of their world. Using your logic, we can say that no one is strong, because the strong are compared with the weak.

What about gundams? How does the power of zagreus correlate with gundam? I am tormented by the suspicion that it is not in favor of the latter.
I talking more about the overwhelming disparity in personal power here. Nazarik could still be destroyed if it had manifested in a more enlightened society. Gundam has the potential to work because even if Zagreus himself is a hero capable of overpowering anyone he will be dealing with a star-faring civilization. He can't simply swing his dick to solve his problems because if he stirs enough shit and act too openly then people will start to nuke his vicinity until he dies. He would have to act like a super stealth jet that appears out of nowhere to tip the scales and then leave so nobody can arrest him and force him to their side by leveraging his intimacies to manipulate him.
Ultimately the only people that matter in Overlord are those bearing personal strength and Zagreus has enough to pick Nazarick in hand and crush with a giant Carion Hand of BLACK DEATH. There is just one way for this story to go.
 
I'd enjoy d&d as it's a setting I like he can invade hell, he can learn a lot, the gods are limited to some extent so he can learn without being crushed if he's not an idiot, and he could cause a huge paradigm shift if he changes hell and introduces a new method to reach godhood to the setting.
 
I talking more about the overwhelming disparity in personal power here. Nazarik could still be destroyed if it had manifested in a more enlightened society. Gundam has the potential to work because even if Zagreus himself is a hero capable of overpowering anyone he will be dealing with a star-faring civilization. He can't simply swing his dick to solve his problems because if he stirs enough shit and act too openly then people will start to nuke his vicinity until he dies. He would have to act like a super stealth jet that appears out of nowhere to tip the scales and then leave so nobody can arrest him and force him to their side by leveraging his intimacies to manipulate him.
Ultimately the only people that matter in Overlord are those bearing personal strength and Zagreus has enough to pick Nazarick in hand and crush with a giant Carion Hand of BLACK DEATH. There is just one way for this story to go.
In any case, what's the point of sending the main character into the world with mechs if he doesn't even need his own, and other people's mechs don't pose a threat to him.
 
I'd enjoy d&d as it's a setting I like he can invade hell, he can learn a lot, the gods are limited to some extent so he can learn without being crushed if he's not an idiot, and he could cause a huge paradigm shift if he changes hell and introduces a new method to reach godhood to the setting.
Dude, there's nothing more manly than invading hell and kicking everyone's ass there. Anyone who does this should have a statue next to doom slayer and helltaker.
 
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