Desperate Struggle: Separatist Quest

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So, were starting of strong with pushing the front, certainly not a bad idea for a first assignment. Though what worries me is the likely hood of encountering Jedi, we do have personal combat protocols from what I've read so far, though this still makes me nervous along with the knowledge that were on there personal shit list.
So we should be fine. Just personal combat specialty is enough to put us somewhere around better commando's and default clone captains. Combining it with Wanted Dead does make us more of a target and raises our starting notoriety, but it also boosts our skills up to Low Jedi Knight. With the addition of the Duelist Droids, we should be able to handle most knights and fend off the less gifted masters provided we have droid fire teams providing support. We'll be fine, especially when the Jedi are sufficiently inexperienced in command to make keeping them from reaching us easy for the first 6 or 7 months of the war.
I think it would definitely be a good idea to build a fortress after our(hopefully) victory. Also has anyone thought of who we're goin to be mostly loyal to? I personally think we should try and stick our metallic hands in as many cookie jars as possible, variety is always best imo.
Not when it comes to upgrading our main implements of war. We have bonuses to developing Droideka's, B1s, Vulture Droids, and to speeding the release of the Tri-droid starfighter. Leaning into alliances which benefit seeing these adopted is more beneficial than spreading ourselves thin on factions which may begin to falter.

Trade federation(Separatist executive council) for greater support in at least them incorporating our improvements to various main stay droids and adoption of certain tactics is more beneficial than being close to any of the other factions, though we'll probably gain some ground in one or the other when saving there asses in certain important battles. We also can get Specialist ships from more often per my choice of starting Navy boost, so we'll want to do something they like and see if they throw us another Lucrehulk.

Strictly speaking we should largely ignore Dooku unless a side object of ours coincides with something he wants done.

Greivous should be Courted but really we'll do that regardless as long as we effect the war positively, so it's more something to just keep in mind and remember in a pinch. Ideally I'd like to be able to call on him when we come to a battle we know will face Jedi master attention like the second battle of Geonosis.

The Senate we might throw a bone or two when we have more actions just for the sake of Morale. Can't win the war only for the cause to languish, though they'll likely not be our focus.
also fun factoid: did you know that the collicoids, bug people who made the tri-fighter droid, actually based the skull and face of the tri-fighter of off a deadly creature native to there home world. To clones and such it's face is alien, but to collicoids, it's the face of death itself.
Interesting. Speaking of Collicoids, I've actually been reconsidering Gorse as our Fortress. While it would certainly effect the war in interesting ways, It might be better to just make it an Occupy Strategic World Target for our fourth or fifth turn rather than make it our fortress. Having Colla IV and it's pre-existing Droideka Factories and research hubs will do more for our personal forces and the early introduction of Tri-droid, and it'll be easier to defend do to priority droideka factories have to the Separatist cause overall.

Like, if we make this our fortress world and ask the Trade federation to assign one of there own Lucrehulks to defend it on a permanent basis, their more likely to agree, same with Greivous and showing up in a Subjugator if the Republic really gangs up on us.
 
So we should be fine. Just personal combat specialty is enough to put us somewhere around better commando's and default clone captains. Combining it with Wanted Dead does make us more of a target and raises our starting notoriety, but it also boosts our skills up to Low Jedi Knight. With the addition of the Duelist Droids, we should be able to handle most knights and fend off the less gifted masters provided we have droid fire teams providing support. We'll be fine, especially when the Jedi are sufficiently inexperienced in command to make keeping them from reaching us easy for the first 6 or 7 months of the war.

Not when it comes to upgrading our main implements of war. We have bonuses to developing Droideka's, B1s, Vulture Droids, and to speeding the release of the Tri-droid starfighter. Leaning into alliances which benefit seeing these adopted is more beneficial than spreading ourselves thin on factions which may begin to falter.

Trade federation(Separatist executive council) for greater support in at least them incorporating our improvements to various main stay droids and adoption of certain tactics is more beneficial than being close to any of the other factions, though we'll probably gain some ground in one or the other when saving there asses in certain important battles. We also can get Specialist ships from more often per my choice of starting Navy boost, so we'll want to do something they like and see if they throw us another Lucrehulk.

Strictly speaking we should largely ignore Dooku unless a side object of ours coincides with something he wants done.

Greivous should be Courted but really we'll do that regardless as long as we effect the war positively, so it's more something to just keep in mind and remember in a pinch. Ideally I'd like to be able to call on him when we come to a battle we know will face Jedi master attention like the second battle of Geonosis.

The Senate we might throw a bone or two when we have more actions just for the sake of Morale. Can't win the war only for the cause to languish, though they'll likely not be our focus.

Interesting. Speaking of Collicoids, I've actually been reconsidering Gorse as our Fortress. While it would certainly effect the war in interesting ways, It might be better to just make it an Occupy Strategic World Target for our fourth or fifth turn rather than make it our fortress. Having Colla IV and it's pre-existing Droideka Factories and research hubs will do more for our personal forces and the early introduction of Tri-droid, and it'll be easier to defend do to priority droideka factories have to the Separatist cause overall.

Like, if we make this our fortress world and ask the Trade federation to assign one of there own Lucrehulks to defend it on a permanent basis, their more likely to agree, same with Greivous and showing up in a Subjugator if the Republic really gangs up on us.
true, I guess I would just feel a little bit more safe with magnaboys around I guess. Hopefully we can use our status as a tactical droid to trick any naïve Jedi into thinking were easy prey.

You're likely correct about focusing on specific things, I'm mostly spit balling ideas I guess. Though if we had to ever potentially branch out to another CIS faction, which do you think would be the best iyo?

Sounds pretty good, though I'm guessing that would depend on where on the front line were going, since it will likely determine what we get to pick I assume. overall you're one of our brains for the quest here, I'm mostly an idea guy.
 
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You're likely correct about focusing on specific things, I'm mostly spit balling ideas I guess. Though if we had to ever potentially branch out to another CIS faction, which do you think would be the best iyo?
Corporate alliance. Trade federation has given us greater numbers of droideka's B1s and Vulture droid starfighters, and navy has been expanded sufficiently to turn us into a force to be reckoned with, but we could there Tanks and mobile artillery to expand our armored divisions to our infantry numbers.
 
[X] Choose a Fortress- Many a Warlord and even Most Indsutrialists have begun the erecting of personally controlled Worlds or Bases. Leading to an immense amount of buildup on the world they've claimed as their throne. (Triggers Secondary Vote)
 
Problem with chilling on collq iv, the colicoids are kinda isolationist and even when shaking up with the cis don't particularly like guests on their front yard.

If we were a colicoid? I could we Ethel being more receptive to that but again they hate people coming to them but we could probably pay them off with exotic meats.
 
Problem with chilling on collq iv, the colicoids are kinda isolationist and even when shaking up with the cis don't particularly like guests on their front yard.

If we were a colicoid? I could we Ethel being more receptive to that but again they hate people coming to them but we could probably pay them off with exotic meats.
It's a galactic scale war where there the manufacturers of the best kill bots in the CIS. You really think a bit of Isolationism is going to preclude them accepting the support and protection of one of the best generals in Greivous's army? Or him throwing his influence behind getting them more funds and priority from the CIS, as well as investing in the defensibility of there planet and being motivated to bring his Providence, Lucrehulk, 2 missile frigates, 20 cruisers, and over 2000 starfighters to there defense if the Republic ever comes for them?

There's Isolationism, and there is stobborn stupidity. Not taking advantage of an up and comer deciding to personally invest in your home worlds defense in a time a war is the latter.
 
Problem with chilling on collq iv, the colicoids are kind of isolationist and even when shaking up with the cis don't particularly like guests on their front yard.
True. Any alternatives you think would be a good idea for us?
If we were a colicoid? I could we Ethel being more receptive to that but again they hate people coming to them but we could probably pay them off with exotic meats.
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That reminds me of an idea for your colicoid that wizard could use, maybe they could bring the colicoid back in by maybe getting him as second in command for us, probably won't happen but a man can dream. Also I loved your colicoid idea, would of definitely picked that if droid wasn't available(I'm a sucker for robot army's).
 
I mean, considering we're a droid and that most of our followers will be droids, building a fortress on a normally inhospitable world would make it much easier to defend. Honestly Hoth might work out as a base, or a planet along those lines.

edit: plus, isn't Hoth very close to Bespin? That would serve us well.
 
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I mean, considering we're a droid and that most of our followers will be droids, building a fortress on a normally inhospitable world would make it much easier to defend. Honestly Hoth might work out as a base, or a planet along those lines.
Hoth has nothing of value, and hostile environment doesn't do much against high grade clone armor and Jedi bullshit mystic constitution. If anything the weather would make it easier for Clone Commandos to infiltrate alongside Jedi and come for us directly. Hoth is good for hiding in the event we are convinced the wars going to go south option. A second secret fortress for if we ever lose the first one because the wars turning against us.
 
I mean, considering we're a droid and that most of our followers will be droids, building a fortress on a normally inhospitable world would make it much easier to defend. Honestly Hoth might work out as a base, or a planet along those lines.

edit: plus, isn't Hoth very close to Bespin? That would serve us well.
From what I found they seem to be about 1150 light years apart from eachother.
 
It's a galactic scale war where there the manufacturers of the best kill bots in the CIS. You really think a bit of Isolationism is going to preclude them accepting the support and protection of one of the best generals in Greivous's army? Or him throwing his influence behind getting them more funds and priority from the CIS, as well as investing in the defensibility of there planet and being motivated to bring his Providence, Lucrehulk, 2 missile frigates, 20 cruisers, and over 2000 starfighters to there defense if the Republic ever comes for them?

There's Isolationism, and there is stobborn stupidity. Not taking advantage of an up and comer deciding to personally invest in your home worlds defense in a time a war is the latter.
I'm not dying it isn't possible for us to set up a base there but colicoids aren't exactly the most welcoming. We probabbly could with the right wording and some exotic meats since that's what colicoids prefer the most.

It's not bad location by any means, just the locals are not exactly nice.


True. Any alternatives you think would be a good idea for us?
If we were a colicoid? I could we Ethel being more receptive to that but again they hate people coming to them but we could probably pay them off with exotic meats.
Jabiim potentially? The battle of Jabiim itself was a actual mess for both sides but Jabiim has good recourses and is a reasonable base of operations itself.
 
I'm not dying it isn't possible for us to set up a base there but colicoids aren't exactly the most welcoming. We probabbly could with the right wording and some exotic meats since that's what colicoids prefer the most.

It's not bad location by any means, just the locals are not exactly nice.
Lol. We were originally planning to invade Gorse and make it our fortress by force. I think Colla iv is a marked improvement in local relations simply by being nominal allies and who we will be spending a good portion of our political funding backing their research.
 
I'm not dying it isn't possible for us to set up a base there but colicoids aren't exactly the most welcoming. We probabbly could with the right wording and some exotic meats since that's what colicoids prefer the most.

It's not bad location by any means, just the locals are not exactly nice.



Jabiim potentially? The battle of Jabiim itself was a actual mess for both sides but Jabiim has good recourses and is a reasonable base of operations itself.

Bakura could work perhaps. They build repuslorlift coils, which are pretty valuable. They're also on a hyperlane.
 
Lol. We were originally planning to invade Gorse and make it our fortress by force. I think Colla iv is a marked improvement in local relations simply by being nominal allies and who we will be spending a good portion of our political funding backing their research.
This is not entirely true.
We are not obliged to consider the opinion of our occupied subjects. If an anti-missile installation should be on this building, it will be there. Regardless of the purpose of the building and the opinions of people.
We must take into account the opinion of our allies.
 
Lol. We were originally planning to invade Gorse and make it our fortress by force. I think Colla iv is a marked improvement in local relations simply by being nominal allies and who we will be spending a good portion of our political funding backing their research.
True, the locals are nominally aligned with us if we set up on colla, and we would potentially get access to some of their foundry nests if we throw some nice meat their way. It isn't a bad idea really.

Bakura could work perhaps. They build repuslorlift coils, which are pretty valuable. They're also on a hyperlane.
Isn't bakura kinda far away, and closer to the sii-rukk? Those asshole space dinosaurs? I'd rather not be anywhere close to them.
 
Jabiim potentially? The battle of Jabiim itself was a actual mess for both sides but Jabiim has good recourses and is a reasonable base of operations itself.
If it was a mess than we can probably tilt it into a CIS victory between better strategy and additional forces.
Isn't bakura kinda far away, and closer to the sii-rukk? Those asshole space dinosaurs? I'd rather not be anywhere close to them.
Paradox favors a very rear facing world, most likely as a buffer to republic forces battling there way to ours. Personally we know Colla iv released the Tri-droid 2 years after geonosis without our support and efforts to expand there defense, so I can't see them as a fortress we have to worry about being overwelmed anytime soon. That plus droideka factories and researchers makes it better than most rear facing options.
 
If it was a mess than we can probably tilt it into a CIS victory between better strategy and additional forces.

Paradox favors a very rear facing world, most likely as a buffer to republic forces battling there way to ours. Personally we know Colla iv released the Tri-droid 2 years after geonosis without our support and efforts to expand there defense, so I can't see them as a fortress we have to worry about being overwelmed anytime soon. That plus droideka factories and researchers makes it better than most rear facing options.
Jabiim itself was pretty early in the war I think, being fought over the planet's rich ore and involved the the Republic and seperatist leaning sides of the planet. It did kinda result in the Republic running away after getting ground down by the nimbus and whatever droids where on the planet.
 
If it was a mess than we can probably tilt it into a CIS victory between better strategy and additional forces.

Paradox favors a very rear facing world, most likely as a buffer to republic forces battling there way to ours. Personally we know Colla iv released the Tri-droid 2 years after geonosis without our support and efforts to expand there defense, so I can't see them as a fortress we have to worry about being overwelmed anytime soon. That plus droideka factories and researchers makes it better than most rear facing options.
If I recall there were sightings of tri-droids before or during halfway through the war, though my information could be wrong, still, we could be able to get tri-droids pretty early on. Also perhaps we should try and participate in the battle of Kamino alongside grievous if we get the chance, knocking out there most major cloning facility would likely be a massive boon for the CIS as a hole, though if we did end being the Couse of such an outcome it could also have negative consequences for us, like say, Palpitine potentially.
 
If I recall there were sightings of tri-droids before or during halfway through the war, though my information could be wrong, still, we could be able to get tri-droids pretty early on. Also perhaps we should try and participate in the battle of Kamino alongside grievous if we get the chance, knocking out there most major cloning facility would likely be a massive boon for the CIS as a hole, though if we did end being the Couse of such an outcome it could also have negative consequences for us, like say, Palpitine potentially.
If so they were probably prototype models being put through test runs, as Wookiepedia says they appeared in 20 BBY, with the War Starting in the Early months of 22 BBY. So it might not be exactly 2 years, but it's certainly close.
 
so I think we all have a general consensus of what kind of droid models we want to get out into the war faster, tri-troids are an obvious thanks to them being a nightmare for clone pilots to fight, and I think someone said rushing the construction of super tactical droids, also great since there just an overall improvement(I have a bit of a sneaking suspicion that a regular tactical might not agree with our orders, since they have a track record of giving sass to there superiors, along with causing a few happy *accidents* in the form of a few dead commanders).

Any other droids We could use? I'm thinking of trying to ensure the survival of B3 battle droids, since Palpatine gave the Jedi the means of finding and destroying the world that was making them due to him seeing the B3's having the potential to change the course of the war and giving the separatist a chance at actually winning.
 
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Any other droids We could use? I'm thinking of trying to ensure the survival of B3 battle droids, since Palpatine gave the Jedi the means of finding and destroying the world that was making them due to him seeing the B3's having the potential to change the course of the war and giving the separatist a chance at actually winning.
I support the notion of making sure the the b3 project stays alive, sure it's a lot of money to throw at a unit but they would be terrific breakthrough units and would eat Republic armor and infantry alive if well supported.

.. And I I can confess something I do too want to get my own personal vs-series droid project off the ground.
 
I'm personally hoping to get some Hailfire droids and spider droids, both the full sized and dwarf version.
 
I'm personally hoping to get some Hailfire droids and spider droids, both the full sized and dwarf version.
The problem with hailfires is that they kinda run out of missles at a pretty high rate, sure they can kill at-tes very well but after they runout of their missles they just race around running over clones and blasting them down until they blow up.

In my opinion of we want to make hailfires work they need a better weapon system, or at least a better form of resupply.
 
I support the notion of making sure the the b3 project stays alive, sure it's a lot of money to throw at a unit but they would be terrific breakthrough units and would eat Republic armor and infantry alive if well supported.

.. And I I can confess something I do too want to get my own personal vs-series droid project off the ground.
Well I'm sure we can save ONE of them at least, as I just remembered there were 2 versions of B3's, the B3 ultra battle droid and the cortosis battle droid, with grievous choosing the cortosis one's since, you know, Jedi killers and all, along with having armor that could survive lightsabers.

Though we should try to get rid of the ultra B3's density projectors as soon as we can, since the danm things, for whatever reason, kept locking the ultras in place making them easy prey. They might not be as effective as they could be, but better a nerfed monster then a monster that can't even fight back.
 
Well I'm sure we can save ONE of them at least, as I just remembered there were 2 versions of B3's, the B3 ultra battle droid and the cortosis battle droid, with grievous choosing the cortosis one's since, you know, Jedi killers and all, along with having armor that could survive lightsabers.

Though we should try to get rid of the ultra B3's density projectors as soon as we can, since the danm things, for whatever reason, kept locking the ultras in place making them easy prey. They might not be as effective as they could be, but better a nerfed monster then a monster that can't even fight back.
Eh not a fan of the cortosis version myself, it's even more expensive then the base ultra and lacks the rider snge of weapons, still bloody good at killing jedi though.

And to be fair on the density projector I think the designers were looking at it th wrong way, instead of making it something that tethers the b3 to the ground I think they should have weaponized it, minimise a tractor beam as much as possible and have the density projector work with the tractor beam and bam, you have a gravity ray emitter, perfect for squishing at-tes and jedi into pancakes.
 
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