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Just get a resupply droid, and it should be fine, the things are incredibly fast, so they can run up and down the lines launching missiles and resupplying.
Desperate Struggle: Separatist Quest
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Just get a resupply droid, and it should be fine, the things are incredibly fast, so they can run up and down the lines launching missiles and resupplying.
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Hail fires are terrible. Persuader Droid Tanks are the better offensive armor option and Separatist Artillery is the better ground pounder. If we need to shower something in missile fire we can just get some more Missile frigates or swamp them in fighters before they land.
Killing Jedi is not something we are going to accomplish with overdeveloped and credit intensive droids that we waste funds and influence developing into a functional state. It's something we solve through experience, by developing attrition tactics with improved B1 and Commando droids supporting and covering for our duelist droids to wear Jedi down and kill them when their tired.
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Also very flimsy, honestly better to stick with the GAT and AAT platforms and get more more milage out of them, we could also stick mortars on hailfires and see how they perform that way.
You are factually correct however, I think that b3s are objectively quite cool and I think it would be a shame if we didn't at least utilise them in a limited capacity, if we get the a cool option like the b3 or protodeka I'm mor often then not willing to try it out if for nothing else then the sheer novelty of it.
Also, I genuinely hate the persuader tanks, they are only good for formation fighting and nothing else, at that point we might as well stick to the AATs.
You're likely correct, though I'm surprised they didn't figure that out themselves, since during the course of the entire war they tried to fix it, which should have given them enough time to figure that out.
Still, probably best to just save the ultras instead of the cortosis ones, since that could draw the eye of palpsy.
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To be fair I don't think palps keeps track of ALL the individual units inside of the Myriad of different cis projects, but I'd rather not get the cortosis b3s, too bloody big and expensive with not the amount t of weaponry that makes the b3 so deadly.
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Thing is, we already have the AAT's as our tank, so I think the persuader's overlap too much with them. Close air support should definitely be one of the core features of our land doctrine, since we have so much hangar space. Getting some Hyena bombers would do nicely.
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You also want the scorpenek annihilator droid that have an incredibly vulnerable eye. Only so much budget and time to fit rule of cool research into. We are gonna have to pick and choose, and I'd prefer the giant anti-armor droid over some barely functional oversized B2.
Fair enough. We'll just put the money we would have spent on pursauders into developing the Scorpenek annihilator droids early and make do until then.
Yes please let's swap some of our vultures for some dedicated bombers until we can develop the tri-fighter droid.
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I mean, I would say It's still worth it to get those ultra B3's operational, mainly so the other separatist commanders can use. We don't have to buy what we push to completion, and yes perhaps maybe It's not as effective as me and sindri think they are, but I'm sure other commanders could make great use of them.
imo making the separatist stronger as a hole is worth it, though I'm sure we can focus on the ultra B3's in the future, since I do agree with you that we should focus on the stuff we currently have first. build strong foundations first, make the Separatist great later.
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And that's kinda on me, I kinda just wanna use everything we can get our grubby hands on but I know won't be able to push for everything and some projects are better then others. If we are to pick then so be it, I'd rather have scorponeks if I ahd to chose, but if possible could we try to get at least one functional b3? If for nothing else then test-bed purposes if nothing else.
But if not then I'd try to get my vs-series proposal approved, I think my babies would be pretty okay and not be bank breaking too much.
Also on stardighters there is a better version a vulture floating about in some trade federation storage facilities from the old naboo blockade, slightly better in at o but way better then the standard vulture in space.
Any idea what these fighters are called and where they might be?
Edit: anyone know what were gonna call our flagship? I'm thinking of something personal to the republic, maybe something insulting to them.
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It was simply called the advanced droid fighter, and no clue where they might be but the trade federation should have some left over from the blockade at least, especially after baktoid got 'liquidated' and it's products disappeared, wouldn't be suppressed if there a few left to nab.
suppose that depends if our QM gives us that chance. He did say that this quest was a Frankenstein of both canon and legends, along with him bumping clone numbers up a bit, so it makes me think he could throw a ranch in our plans if we perhaps start getting to successful in our conquest. No idea if he will or not, but we don't exactly know what he's gonna pull from legends, just something to keep in mind.
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Except other than Dooku and maybe grievous, I'm not sure any of them would use them do to the exorbitant costs and poor functionality, and possibly not even grievous. Again, we have limited research time and resources. Wasting research time developing a droid that's not going to get put to much use by us or others is wasteful. Even the obviously effective and vastly more affordable by comparison B1 software upgrade are something we'll struggle to see adopted outside the trade federation, Greivous and Possibly Trench's personal forces.
When someone else develops it we'll buy and maybe modify a model and see how it does. Personally I think the Super tactical droid based on us and inheriting our Personal combat specialty is the future of Jedi Kill teams.
Unfortunately making them stronger as a whole isn't chasing improvements to everything the separatists ever made, it's picking or introducing a handful or two of meaningful improvements and seeing them incorporated while pushing to have the actual effective new droids introduced earlier.
Not knowing there cost or why the CIS never developed them further or reintroduced them, and with clear evidence of a willingness to introduce new starfighters to the CIS army in the form of Tri-fighter droid, I'm going to have to pass in favor of speeding Tri Droid release.
Pretty fair points, just things to consider In the end. Still, I would imaging a lot of our future actions will depend on where were goin for our first engagement among the many others we'll be doin, after all, the placement of an army can certainly play a pretty big role in battles, though I'm sure a lucrehulk will get any republic fleet sweating a bit in any space engagement.
Fair enough, and to be fair we should probably judge stuff in their probable performance and what we have seen in the various media to get a rough basis of what stuff is actually good, Erratic can always throw a few curveballs or surprisingly effective stuff our way or something.
But anyway, when the time comes I'm gonna propose my droid series when the time comes, there should also some stuff we have talked about on discord if anyone wants to have some other info, or chat I guess.
I think I'll stick to just communicating here, not very big on using social media stuff, but hope you guys have fun over there. Do hope you fine people will keep me updated on the plans to conquer the galaxy.
And with that being said I guess the only thing to do now is wait for the next update to the quest, see ya tomorrow peeps, and stay safe.
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AAT is a crewed vehicle, this is criminal. It's Missiles are in a poor launching spot. Better yo be mounted on the central section, or perhaps mortars on top off the lower sections to abuse Arc of Fire.
The Persuader is good only as being a shock tank. Rush forward hard and loud, fire a ridiculous amount of energy at them while presenting a small target window.
The G.A.T. is alright but is primarily a light skirmishes tank currently. An enhanced variant would do well.
AAT is a crewed vehicle, this is criminal. It's Missiles are in a poor launching spot. Better yo be mounted on the central section, or perhaps mortars on top off the lower sections to abuse Arc of Fire.
The Persuader is good only as being a shock tank. Rush forward hard and loud, fire a ridiculous amount of energy at them while presenting a small target window.
The G.A.T. is alright but is primarily a light skirmishes tank currently. An enhanced variant would do well.
You know I just wanted to ask, but how will this hole quest function exactly? Will it just be decisions like this, or will there be a dedicated battle system when we enter combat on a planet or space? Will it be very intricate or simple? You probably have already told all this on the discord server, but I don't use discord(or really any social media quite frankly). Sorry if this annoying to you or such, but I'm very curious.
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There is not a currently more formulated or explained combat system. Roughly i'd had an idea of opposing rolls in each component of the battlefield. Special Units or Heroes can take maneuvers to turn the tides, or generally just buff things as the commander of the overall conflict. Jedi Specialize in directly intervening right now. Hero Shenanigans, you rely on... lots of droids lol.
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No love for the Tempest Zero?
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Tempest Zero
The Tempest Zero was an advanced Starfighter design produced by the people of Valahari. The prototype was first flown by Tofen Vane, and the starfighter was later mass-produced at Harko Station for use by Tofen's Raiders. The ship was armed with four forward-facing laser cannons placed on each...
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Valahari/Legends
Valahari was an Outer Rim planet that claimed neutrality in the Clone Wars, but gave newer and advanced ships to the Confederacy of Independent Systems that gave the CIS an advantage over the Galactic Republic.[2] The people of Valahari had a strong reputation for being some of the best...
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Well I certainly wasn't expecting for that fighter to look like that, though I guess I shouldn't be to surprised, I'm not exactly to knowledgeable about the legends side of things admittedly.No love for the Tempest Zero?
Tempest Zero
The Tempest Zero was an advanced Starfighter design produced by the people of Valahari. The prototype was first flown by Tofen Vane, and the starfighter was later mass-produced at Harko Station for use by Tofen's Raiders. The ship was armed with four forward-facing laser cannons placed on each...
Valahari is a great planet to secure.
Valahari/Legends
Valahari was an Outer Rim planet that claimed neutrality in the Clone Wars, but gave newer and advanced ships to the Confederacy of Independent Systems that gave the CIS an advantage over the Galactic Republic.[2] The people of Valahari had a strong reputation for being some of the best...
From what it looks like also, this fighter only seems to appear in a single comic, so not completely sure about trying to get this kind of fighter in our army, though I must thank you for telling me of it's existence, I think I'll have to do some searching for other crafts like it, so thank you on that front.
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Less a lack of love, and more an awareness that the tri-fight droid rather than the tempest zero was the starfighter that became widespread among the CIS and used effectively for years after the technical end of the clone wars. It was a superior model of starfighterNo love for the Tempest Zero?
Tempest Zero
The Tempest Zero was an advanced Starfighter design produced by the people of Valahari. The prototype was first flown by Tofen Vane, and the starfighter was later mass-produced at Harko Station for use by Tofen's Raiders. The ship was armed with four forward-facing laser cannons placed on each...
Valahari is a great planet to secure.
Valahari/Legends
Valahari was an Outer Rim planet that claimed neutrality in the Clone Wars, but gave newer and advanced ships to the Confederacy of Independent Systems that gave the CIS an advantage over the Galactic Republic.[2] The people of Valahari had a strong reputation for being some of the best...
I prefer to see it introduced earlier into the war, and we already receive a bonus to researching it do to it's creators also creating droideka's, which we have a bonus for from trade federation. If we set up on Colla iv, we can possibly get bonuses to droideka, Tri-fighter droids, and Scorpenek Annihilator droids research, all of which we've been discussing upgrading or developing ahead of schedule, which makes it a superior fortress in my opinion.
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To be fair it's a bit obscure piece of tech, although if Valahari ends up in being on the options for fortress list I don't see why not to pick, although colla iv is basically the holy grail for our current units.No love for the Tempest Zero?
Tempest Zero
The Tempest Zero was an advanced Starfighter design produced by the people of Valahari. The prototype was first flown by Tofen Vane, and the starfighter was later mass-produced at Harko Station for use by Tofen's Raiders. The ship was armed with four forward-facing laser cannons placed on each...
Valahari is a great planet to secure.
Valahari/Legends
Valahari was an Outer Rim planet that claimed neutrality in the Clone Wars, but gave newer and advanced ships to the Confederacy of Independent Systems that gave the CIS an advantage over the Galactic Republic.[2] The people of Valahari had a strong reputation for being some of the best...
Quote the QM "Sidious has busted out his Margherita Kit already because of complications"
Palpatine's smile faded from his face, The final meeting with the jedi council was over for the day. Almost everything was going to plan but they could be stubborn when they wanted but in the end they agreed. Now he could finally indulge in one of his. . . pleasures.
Lightly pressing a the intercom on his desk he summoned the senate guard
"Captain Willhelm, Prepare an escort. I wish to visit location 27"
A gravelly voice replied "It shall be done your Excellency"
Rising from his desk Palpatine nodded to the two guards standing at the door. They pushed open the ornate door to his chamber and fell into step behind him. With practiced ease the convoy made its way to the landing bay where a luxurious repulsorcraft sat idling. With a bow the chauffeur opened the door as the chancellor stepped in. The vehicle glided away from the senate building and two gunships moved ahead and behind it.
Slowly the convoy descended into the underbelly of Coursant. Around them Traffic slowly decreased and poverty increased, Fine apartment complexes turned to ratty slums and toxic byproducts from refineries clogged the atmosphere. Palpatine poured a glass of fine wine as he watched a twi'lek get mugged in the glare of a half broken street lamp. Soon the vehicle arrived at it's landing space and the driver got the door for him.
"Thank you Jarod" He gave a neutral smile as he stepped out of the car. Thought on the pleasures that awaited him ahead. Between the war and the paperwork it really had been too long before he could enjoy this again.
The blue armored clones of the senate guard moved ahead clearing a path through the crowd which he followed. Before him lay his target, A truly hidden gem. A place that one only finds out through word of mouth. Tony's Pizza
Already the smell of quality Italya flat bread could be slightly smelled through the piss and . . . other smells. One of the guards opened the door for him as he entered. Finally he could have the glorious taste of margherita and forget about that upsetter running his war for a minute.
Lightly pressing a the intercom on his desk he summoned the senate guard
"Captain Willhelm, Prepare an escort. I wish to visit location 27"
A gravelly voice replied "It shall be done your Excellency"
Rising from his desk Palpatine nodded to the two guards standing at the door. They pushed open the ornate door to his chamber and fell into step behind him. With practiced ease the convoy made its way to the landing bay where a luxurious repulsorcraft sat idling. With a bow the chauffeur opened the door as the chancellor stepped in. The vehicle glided away from the senate building and two gunships moved ahead and behind it.
Slowly the convoy descended into the underbelly of Coursant. Around them Traffic slowly decreased and poverty increased, Fine apartment complexes turned to ratty slums and toxic byproducts from refineries clogged the atmosphere. Palpatine poured a glass of fine wine as he watched a twi'lek get mugged in the glare of a half broken street lamp. Soon the vehicle arrived at it's landing space and the driver got the door for him.
"Thank you Jarod" He gave a neutral smile as he stepped out of the car. Thought on the pleasures that awaited him ahead. Between the war and the paperwork it really had been too long before he could enjoy this again.
The blue armored clones of the senate guard moved ahead clearing a path through the crowd which he followed. Before him lay his target, A truly hidden gem. A place that one only finds out through word of mouth. Tony's Pizza
Already the smell of quality Italya flat bread could be slightly smelled through the piss and . . . other smells. One of the guards opened the door for him as he entered. Finally he could have the glorious taste of margherita and forget about that upsetter running his war for a minute.
Something popped into my head while I was watching separatist lore videos today, what major/important battles that we know of do we want to try and change the course of? I'm not well versed in legends continuity but I do know of some battles in canon, like the battle of malastare.
Malastare itself was a big player in the republic before the clone wars, with it also being(from what I heard) the same planet that birthed pod racing. During the clone wars, the GAR was in great need of fuel, with them needing to get the dugs council on there side so they could secure the fuel reserves. But if you know about the planets history before the clone wars, then I'm sure you know about how the dugs were overthrown by another alien species from the republic looking to colonize there, which the dugs trying to resist and fight them off, with them losing.
They then had there military forcibly dismantled and them being reduced to second class citizens on there own planet, though they did make there own council eventually, I don't know how much power it really had.
From what it sounded like, the Dugs should have likely joined the separatist, maybe more so since the planet was pretty close to separatist space, but unfortunately it wasn't meant to be. The CIS had decided to aggressively blockade and invade the planet with a large force, which didn't really seem to put them in the Dugs good graces. The republic took this as a chance to repair relations with the Dug species and so decided to help them defend it from the CIS.
I say we could try and change things around here and instead of trying to use force to take the planet, we try and convince the Dugs that the CIS is pretty chill and they should join it. We could do this by promising them they we will make them the rulers of the planet, with us also maybe driving off the colonizers if they wish us to. If we can't do that, then we could always try and kill the Zillo beast if that awakens, since they said they would only join the Republic if they killed it, we could always keep reserve forces in orbit incase of such an event, if not just so we avoid that bomb the GAR used to stop the CIS army.
Denying the Republic a valuable resource is always a nice idea, though I'm unsure if we really need it. I want to kind of get a discussion about us intervening in important fights going, since I'm curious what everyone thinks. Sorry if this seemed to long, I have a bad habit of rambling.
Malastare itself was a big player in the republic before the clone wars, with it also being(from what I heard) the same planet that birthed pod racing. During the clone wars, the GAR was in great need of fuel, with them needing to get the dugs council on there side so they could secure the fuel reserves. But if you know about the planets history before the clone wars, then I'm sure you know about how the dugs were overthrown by another alien species from the republic looking to colonize there, which the dugs trying to resist and fight them off, with them losing.
They then had there military forcibly dismantled and them being reduced to second class citizens on there own planet, though they did make there own council eventually, I don't know how much power it really had.
From what it sounded like, the Dugs should have likely joined the separatist, maybe more so since the planet was pretty close to separatist space, but unfortunately it wasn't meant to be. The CIS had decided to aggressively blockade and invade the planet with a large force, which didn't really seem to put them in the Dugs good graces. The republic took this as a chance to repair relations with the Dug species and so decided to help them defend it from the CIS.
I say we could try and change things around here and instead of trying to use force to take the planet, we try and convince the Dugs that the CIS is pretty chill and they should join it. We could do this by promising them they we will make them the rulers of the planet, with us also maybe driving off the colonizers if they wish us to. If we can't do that, then we could always try and kill the Zillo beast if that awakens, since they said they would only join the Republic if they killed it, we could always keep reserve forces in orbit incase of such an event, if not just so we avoid that bomb the GAR used to stop the CIS army.
Denying the Republic a valuable resource is always a nice idea, though I'm unsure if we really need it. I want to kind of get a discussion about us intervening in important fights going, since I'm curious what everyone thinks. Sorry if this seemed to long, I have a bad habit of rambling.
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