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Crusader Kages - A Naruto Village Councilor Quest

What Path Will We Walk Into The Dark?

  • The Path of Blood

    Votes: 17 10.4%

  • The Path of Bone

    Votes: 65 39.6%

  • The Path of Fury

    Votes: 21 12.8%

  • The Path of Thorns

    Votes: 61 37.2%
  • Total voters
    164
  • Poll closed .
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From what we know about the meteor it seems very likely that the meteor guard straight up can't use a summoner contract. All the summon clans are bound up in tree chakra tradition.

Maybe traditional senjutsu and natural energy can work with meteor energy, but that'd take significant research. And Tomoe would still be locked out of the majority of what her summons could provide her.
 
Ok. I'd like to remind you all that we do not know if Summoning is Ninjutsu here. We have WOG on this. Part of the action to talk to Endo about Summons would be to confirm this. I realize most of you will just ignore this, but I feel like someone needs to keep repeating it in the faint hope some of you will actually pay attention this time.

Moving on, I'd like to talk to either Mori or Daigo about summons in the next turn or two. Mori is the Jonin Commander, while Daigo is the Head of Intelligence. Those seem like the two offices that might see the best use of contracts due to the responsibilities of the offices and the potential uses of the Summons.
 
Honestly, do we want the majority of our summoners to be council members? I know that's mostly who we interact with, but council members will presumably be spending most of their time in the village administrating their departments. Is that really the best utilization of summons? Sure, summons aren't *just* combat support, but that is definitely something they're really good for, so getting them in the hands of people that could use the backup more regularly could be useful. I guess it depends on how many high tier jonin we have access to in the village that *aren't* part of the council.
 
Honestly, I don't think it's that we're specifically focused on making Council Members into Summoners, as we have a small list of people who we can possibly trust enough to let them know about how to find a Summon Contract. If we had more people to choose from, we'd have to at least consider having more non-Council members be Summoners, but...well. like I said, we have a short list that isn't going to have more than half a dozen names any time soon.
 
Might be best to go out into the village and see who would be best as a summoner. See if we got any young wunderkind ready to make their mark on history and give them a chance to be a village hero/legend for reclaiming a lost summon contract. Great for PR.
 
Talking to the Jonin Commander is probably a good first step to finding out about any promising jonin in the ranks anyways, even if we don't intend to offer him one of the scrolls.
 
Wiggy said:
Honestly, do we want the majority of our summoners to be council members? I know that's mostly who we interact with, but council members will presumably be spending most of their time in the village administrating their departments. Is that really the best utilization of summons?
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That's a good point but both Mori and Daigo as the head spy and Jonin commander are presumably some of the best fighters their are. I could see some of the other council member positions 'merely' require that you be a Jonin but those two positions probably require them to be the best of the best.

Even if they spend more time organizing then out in the field the combat boost from the summons would probably be best used by them.

Plus it's possible that they'll allow other people to sign their summons that will be 'out and about' more often. Either members from their clan or their underlings.
 
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LostDeviljho said:
Oh? What kind of opinions?
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That it's massively inefficient and needs serious revamping, for starters each of those scrolls is totally worth building a medium to large clan around rather than relying on 1-3 ninja in a teaching line to keep secure in the village. Assuming you can't get the village and the summon clans to work out deals or even go for full integration. Large scale infrastructural work could be done to incorporate each others goods and services. Mini-contracts for specific pairs or units should be a common sight. For example Having the full contract summoners act as facilitators for summons interested in becoming familiars meet up with likely candidates. Another one might be having the village buy silkier silk goods in large quantities from the spiders instead of just having the summoners use silk. Just generally the whole process needs to be expanded and made a larger scale relationship.
 
People are going to be salty if we start talking about establishing clans for summoning contracts. That would be a politcal issue and not something Chiyomi should decide on.

Hoshigakure got 6 "Noble? " clans and now 1 of them have summoning contracts. I imagine the other clans will miffed if she uses her position to set up more clans.
 
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ReaperofInterest said:
Honestly, I don't think it's that we're specifically focused on making Council Members into Summoners, as we have a small list of people who we can possibly trust enough to let them know about how to find a Summon Contract. If we had more people to choose from, we'd have to at least consider having more non-Council members be Summoners, but...well. like I said, we have a short list that isn't going to have more than half a dozen names any time soon.
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Right now I'll be happy to just have the summon scrolls in village so the likes of Orochimaru can't steal them for there own use or deny the village a potential asset.

Who signs them is a lesser concern to me as long as there loyal to the village. So really I'm happy with whoever getting them right now.
Thule said:
Say has the Dread and Hope gone up or down since the start of the Q?
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Hope I know has gone up since we rescued the Kiri refugees I don't think our village has done anything that would raise dread yet. But I don't think we have raised those two this quarter.
 
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w34v3r said:
That it's massively inefficient and needs serious revamping, for starters each of those scrolls is totally worth building a medium to large clan around rather than relying on 1-3 ninja in a teaching line to keep secure in the village. Assuming you can't get the village and the summon clans to work out deals or even go for full integration. Large scale infrastructural work could be done to incorporate each others goods and services. Mini-contracts for specific pairs or units should be a common sight. For example Having the full contract summoners act as facilitators for summons interested in becoming familiars meet up with likely candidates. Another one might be having the village buy silkier silk goods in large quantities from the spiders instead of just having the summoners use silk. Just generally the whole process needs to be expanded and made a larger scale relationship.
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Summon clans would be amazing but it's good to remember that the summons are a faction, not a resource.

They are all independent powerful beings who will not take kindly being treated as a commodity to be doled out like common animals. Some summons might be agreeable to forming bonds with a clan but they also may only be interested in a few select individuals they deem worthy. Either way, it certainly won't be easy to create a summon clan if we try for that.
 
Malfeasance1 said:
Summon clans would be amazing but it's good to remember that the summons are a faction, not a resource.

They are all independent powerful beings who will not take kindly being treated as a commodity to be doled out like common animals. Some summons might be agreeable to forming bonds with a clan but they also may only be interested in a few select individuals they deem worthy. Either way, it certainly won't be easy to create a summon clan if we try for that.
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Yeah, summons contracts are not candy. If they want to empower a clan, they can, but it can also be a deeply personal connection with their summoner.
 
Yeah, and that's kind of the problem. It means the contracts end up constantly moving around and acting as a choke points on trade and information flow.
 
If making a permanent deal with any of the Summons clans is truly possible, then that seems like something we should leave to Asano or the Hoshikage to figure out. Ultimately, we're the Tech Advisor. We originally got the Contracts to empower some ninjas and answer some questions. Let the Diplomacy advisor or the Faction leader handle the possibility of any permanent bargains.
 
w34v3r said:
Yeah, and that's kind of the problem. It means the contracts end up constantly moving around and acting as a choke points on trade and information flow.
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Considering the setting and the whole info security thing, that seems like a feature, not a bug. Summons presumably don't want all their cool stuff spreading super far.
 
So is Hoshigakure ever gonna try and get more clans to join the Village? they should still be clans around the world that are not part of a Village, and with Kiri still being a shit show, might get more clans from that place
 
Thule said:
So is Hoshigakure ever gonna try and get more clans to join the Village? they should still be clans around the world that are not part of a Village, and with Kiri still being a shit show, might get more clans from that place
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We still haven't done standard medical checks on any of the new bloodline clans that we attained several years ago, so we should not be in a rush to add more new blood to the village for some time.
 
Thule said:
So is Hoshigakure ever gonna try and get more clans to join the Village? they should still be clans around the world that are not part of a Village, and with Kiri still being a shit show, might get more clans from that place
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If a clan's survived long enough without a village/wider community, then presumably they're doing okay on their own, and wouldn't necessarily consider Hoshi a 'step up'. We're still mostly unknown, and haven't shown off our technical advancements in battle yet.

If we want more people in the village, there's always the, ah, traditional way of population growth. Make love, not war, and treat/avoid radiation sickness. Slow and steady growth is more stable than absorbing and poaching clans from other villages, and less likely to get us squished. And it'll give the new clans a chance to grow and integrate.
 
bigking321 said:
I don't believe that for a second.

We haven't done a specific research examination of their bloodline stuff, sure. But standard medical checks? We've definitely done those.
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Alright, poor wording. We haven't done any of the initial inspections of any clan, keeping in mind that those initial inspections may open up follow-up inspections in order to handle more advanced issues.
 
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