Confringentur 3; a Madoka Magica / Fate/Stay Night 3quel

All right, okay, cool. Now how does Archer take a prop and turn it into a real working lightsaber?
Alter a copy of Caliburn to have no blade and then change up the hilt. May have a bit more firepower than we're looking for, but hopefully the degradation that Alteration causes can help tamp down on the firepower a bit.
 
Alter a copy of Caliburn to have no blade and then change up the hilt. May have a bit more firepower than we're looking for, but hopefully the degradation that Alteration causes can help tamp down on the firepower a bit.
Ah, but here's the important part: Does it go "BVWEE" when it turns on and "KRSHK" when it hits another lightsaber? This is very important.
 
All right, okay, cool. Now how does Archer take a prop and turn it into a real working lightsaber?

Why does he need a prop? The specifics escape me at the moment, but I vaguely remember a Japanese myth were someone was gifted a sword with a "blade made of light" after training with Tengu.
 
Why does he need a prop? The specifics escape me at the moment, but I vaguely remember a Japanese myth were someone was gifted a sword with a "blade made of light" after training with Tengu.
For two reasons: One, the sword you're talking about doesn't have a cool sci-fi hilt like a lightsaber does. Two, do you have any idea how fucking expensive lightsabers in the real world are? Of course Archer's not going to pay that much for a toy if he can make a real one for himself.
 
Day 16 Chapter 18
[X] Plan: Prepared for Subversion



It's not the furniture that's caught your eye, but what's on the furniture. More specifically, a glint of metal resting atop Sidonia's desk catches your eye, and you go over to examine it. It's a pendant, metal, bound to a thin metal chain. Its shape is that of a ram's head with curling horns. You know this pendant: It's the same one Sidonia wore around her neck. What's it doing here? You ask yourself, having expected that the pendant would have gone to the afterlife with its wearer. But it's here, and for some reason you feel it calling to you. You've seen The Lord of the Rings. You know to be wary of magical artefacts that feel like they're calling out to you. Least of all ones owned by dark wizards like Sidonia.

"Homura-?" Archer's voice draws you back to reality. Without thinking, you see that your hand is already outstretched, reaching for the pendant on Sidonia's desk. Without even thinking about it, your hand was drawn by the power coming from the pendant. "Are you sure that's a good idea?"

You aren't sure. "Archer, can you confirm whether there's anything attached to this pendant that's any worse than what it's already giving off?" You remember, almost two years ago, when the witch Elsa Maria employed a similar tactic on the members of her congregation. Her emissary, a girl who had been gifted the title "Sister Hope" by the witch that had wormed its way into her brain, used her artistic talents to craft pendants displaying the sunburst iconography of Elsa Maria's cult. The symbol was her kiss, binding those members of her congregation to her spell. Hitomi had been given one, and when she'd tried to throw it away she found that she had failed to. Hitomi was lucky. The other members of Elsa Maria's congregation were not so. But the fact that this pendant is calling to you, so strongly that it even tricked you into reaching for it unconsciously, says that taking it may not be the wisest decision you could make. "I want to make sure this thing is only cursed a little bit."

"Only a little bit?" Archer asks, his eyebrow raised. "Homura, it being cursed by any amount isn't a good thing."

"I know. But, I meant if it's cursed any more than just making me want to take it."

"That's still a bad sign if you're feeling something like that," Archer says. Especially if neither he, Tomoe-san, nor Kirika can feel it. "But, all right. I'll see what this thing has."

The ram's head is in effigy of the god Veles, from the Slavic pantheon and one of Sidonia's chief deities of worship, perhaps her chiefest by the special place she kept it around her neck. You don't know what interest Sidonia took in Veles nor, if as a divine entity his essence is still up there, somewhere, what interest Veles took in Sidonia. Perhaps as a sower of chaos: Hitomi and Lancer both confirmed from their reading into the topic that Veles was, in addition to being the Slav's underworld deity, a god of chaos and enemy of Perun, the lightning god. A common motif in ancient religions, you recall. If that was the case, then you shudder to think of what interest Sidonia, or perhaps Veles, have in you if this pendant was left here for you to find.

But what if it wasn't? What if Sidonia left this pendant behind not for you, but for someone else? In that case, taking it, denying whoever she left it for the resource that this pendant represents, might be the safer option. Safer in that you'd be denying the intended a powerful resource. Not safer in the quality you'd bring to your life, because you would most certainly be in danger from whoever this pendant was left for if you took it from them.

"I'm not getting anything from this pendant," Archer finally says. "It's… Got a few incredibly minor charms, things for protection, good luck, and the like, but they're all things that require an active infusion of mana to activate. You're not going to be cursed if you just take it and run." Good. "But, that still leaves me wondering why the heck you want to take the damned thing in the first place. Especially if you think it's cursed. Especially if you think it wants you to take it. I know I just said it wasn't cursed, but that still doesn't give me any confidence that taking it is a good idea."

"Because Sidonia's descendant is still out there," you say to Archer. "If there's any chance that this thing is more than what it read like to you, then I don't want it falling into Franziska's hands. Better I take the chance that it hurts me, than Franziska acquires it and uses it to hurt all of us."

You don't know if that's possible, given Archer's diagnosis, but if he can be worried about curses he can't read, you can be worried about Franziska acquiring boons from her ancestor that Archer can't read. "Everyone, be prepared to restrain or incapacitate me if it looks like I'm not myself once I take the pendant. If that happens, your priority is stopping me, and getting us all out of here as fast as possible, in that order."

"Sis, this is fucking crazy," Kirika says. "You're going to get yourself killed."

"I concur with Kure-san," Tomoe-san adds. "This really does seem dangerous, Akemi-san."

You know. But you can't resist the pendant's call any longer. It wants you to reach out, to take it home with you, to wear it around your neck just like its former master and-

As you reach out, it's as if you're looking into a mirror, with another you reaching for the pendant in the opposite direction. It's not you. You're staring into the face of your witch, cracked skin and blood-moon eyes, a hand reaching for the pendant riddled with jagged spider's web cracks. "̸A̸r̶e̴ ̸y̶o̷u̵ ̸s̶u̵r̴e̷ ̶y̷o̶u̵ ̴w̷a̵n̵t̸ ̵t̷h̷i̷s̵?̶"̶ your witch asks. You're sure. "̵T̴h̸a̴t̶'̸s̵ ̴H̵e̵l̷l̵ ̶y̷o̸u̶'̵r̸e̷ ̸w̶a̴l̷k̸i̷n̶g̶ ̴i̴n̷t̵o̶.̸"̸ The both of you reach the pendant at the same time, and your hands merge into one another, until you're both one and the same. Now you're back to watching your own reflection. You see yourself, that day as you cried over Madoka's corpse, as you made your wish, and you're watching yourself as you watch yourself as you watch yourself it's like an endless repeat if that scene as you watch yourself as you watch yourself. Then, you aren't watching yourself anymore. You're in a white space, only yourself and your witch in an endless expanse of blinding brilliant white. White bleeds black until the world is dyed in its unlight, and all that remains are outlines in the dark, vague shadows which take the shapes of people you know: Madoka, your mother, Kirika, the people you keep closest to your heart. Why isn't Archer among their outlines? Black bleeds into black as the outlines wash out, and you see yourself in the darkness being reborn again. You see yourself disappearing as the darkness swallows you a second time, and when you reappear it is as yourwitchself again. Your witch rests atop a throne of blackness, and darkness garbs your witch as you stare into the abyss that is you before you, and the last thing you see is Madoka, garbed in the brilliant white as if the darkness hadn't overtaken it, resting her soft curves into your witch's side as twinkling lights, like the glitter of a million Soul Gems, sparkle like the stars in the sky-

"Homura-?" You blink as the world returns to normal. The million glittering Soul Gems are now just three: yours, Tomoe-san's, and Kirika's. Your hand is still stretched out, yet to reach the pendant. Kirika's voice is in your ear, asking "You okay? You kinda… Looked like you zoned out on us for a second there."

"If you're not sure about taking the pendant," Tomoe-san says, "Then it's probably best to leave it after all." Archer nods his head. "Don't force yourself to take it if you think you've still got pause to do so."

"No, that's not it," you say, grabbing the pendant in one swift motion and stuffing it into the pocket of your costume. You can't hear it calling to you anymore. "I just… I must just be tired, that's all. It is rather late."

"Then let's get the three of you back home," Archer says. Specially for you and Kirika, Archer adds "You two in particular should have been asleep hours ago. It's late, and Minako isn't going to let you skip school tomorrow is you're tired from staying up late." You hear Kirika grumble something about nto being able to sleep without Oriko, to which Archer scoffs. If it's late enough for him to be lecturing Kirika about going to bed, it's too late to let her go running off to Oriko's. Especially not after Kirika already got yelled at by mom for doing something with Oriko that she wasn't supposed to. Her Soul Gem doesn't even look like she needed topping off, either. "Now, we've got a long ways just getting out of here. Stay alert. You especially, Homura. I don't want any nasties Sidonia might have left behind flocking to you because you've got that thing in your pocket."

You're more than well aware enough of the risks in walking out of Sidonia's home with some of her property in tow, but you do it anyway. Because you have to in order to leave this place and go home. Fortunately, you don't encounter any resistance on your way out. You say "On your way out" because it's only once you've finally left the cramped underground and emerged back out into the real world above Sidonia's workshop, that you encounter resistance. Standing there, its four red eyes locked onto you – specifically you – you see one of Sidonia's black werewolf familiars. Archer draws on his bow, readying a grip of arrows as he says "Stay behind me, girls," in anticipation of the wolf's lunge. You can hear Archer's bow straining against his iron grip, can see the spike-like bristles of the wolf's thick, hard fur standing on edge, as the two stare each other down.

The confrontation only lasts for a moment. Archer looses his arrows, but just as he does so, Sidonia's werewolf is gone, whatever its mission was, complete. All that remains when Archer's arrows miss their mark is a wolf-shaped stain of Grief upon the snow. "That was… Not what I expected to happen," Archer says, crouching down to examine the puddle of Grief, readying something sturdier on his bow in case this was a trick. But no trick it reveals itself to be, and Archer shrugs, unsure of himself. "What do you figure that was all about?"

"I can only guess that it was here to… Make sure we got what we came here for?" you suggest, unsure of the situation yourself. "It didn't attack us, even though it clearly had the chance to." It had the chance to strike you before you even noticed its presence, but it held back. Why did it hold back? You've never known Sidonia's wolves to hold back before. "Maybe… Maybe that was the source of the movement you sensed over this way earlier?" you suggest. "Maybe it wanted to make sure we came here and took what Sidonia left behind?" It's a terrible guess, but you really don't have anything better.

"Maybe," Archer says. "But, look around-" Archer gestures to the snow on the ground around you. You don't see anything. You don't see anything. "There's no tracks. If that was the movement I saw earlier, I'd expect it would have at least left behind tracks of some sort." You're left to wonder, the rest of the way home, what just happened, and how much of what happened tonight was even real in the first place, or just some leftover spell of Sidonia's playing tricks on you.

The worst part about all of this is that the possibility of getting answers is less than a coin toss, since Sidonia has been unusually quiet the past few days.

[ ] What just happened?
[ ] How do you feel about what just happened?
[ ] What do you think about what just happened?
[ ] What does all of that even mean?
[ ] What do you do now?​
 
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Well, that was an experience. There was a musical cue I wanted to add to this, but for one it would have been really obvious, and for two since opening youtube on my laptop is basically impossible I was unable to pull up a link to the correct timestamp on my phone, so I had to do without. Anyway, I don't have much guidance to give to you in the form of where to go next, but I do have some thoughts we should be thinking about our experience.
 
Well, that happened.

So, Homura got a vision of herself witching out and/or got a step closer to merging with her Witch?
 
Hm. This is remarkably interesting, and also remarkably hard to figure. I'll probably be able to figure out a vote in a bit along the lines we've been given; the voting material helps more than you might expect.

I can't shake the feeling that we've somehow 'inherited' something, especially given how this resembles that omake. This has Veles written all over it. The only thing is I'm not sure what worshipping Veles actually does for Sidonia, it might be easier to figure out what's going to happen to us if we knew that. But given his association with the underworld, magic, and trickery, as well as the vision we had, no doubt whatever effect this had on us had something to do with our witch as well. Something also tells me that when Homulilly says 'That's hell you're walking into' it's more literal than we might expect, which would also explain why Archer isn't in that vision. When we die, we get to go somewhere, as Satomi proves. Archer doesn't, his soul belongs to the Counter Force (which is saddening that Alaya didn't fulfill that promise at the start of the first quest, since players were no longer a part of the Counter Force by the middle-to-end of Mk. 2). The vision also seems remarkably close to Godoka and Homucifer spending time together, which also implies the existence of the afterlife.

TL;DR, whatever vision we were just shown has heavy relations to either Veles, an afterlife, or both.
 
The only thing is I'm not sure what worshipping Veles actually does for Sidonia
Well, Sidonia began worshiping Veles (along with the other Slavic deities) at 30 years of age. Also, Elizabeth Bathory would have been 18 when Sidonia was 30. Coincidence? I think not. For all we know, Veles could have just looked at Sidonia and said "You will only ever love women who are crazier than you," and just sat back to watch the chaos unfold. Or maybe he thought investing in Sidonia would yield future benefits. Just look at the havoc she managed to wreak in the short time she had her second life. Or maybe worshiping Veles does nothing for Sidonia because she was the sole living worshiper of the Slavic pantheon at that time and the lack of worshipers had made him weak, and Veles chooses not to come out of hiding in the present day because he doesn't respect the attempts made by modern-day pagans. Or something.

Frankly, this looks like a job for Superman @Dmol8 who could probably tell us both better what interest Veles might have in Homura.
Well, that happened.

So, Homura got a vision of herself witching out and/or got a step closer to merging with her Witch?
Maybe. Compare Homura's vision to the one Sidonia saw the omake this is similar to and try to figure it out. Then again, if you've got no thoughts about how to figure this out I'd understand. I know what's going on, but I know that doesn't do anything to help you figure it out.
 
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Other than make a note to more personally look into Veles and to get some sleep on the off chance this was just nothing more than a stress induced hallucination, I've got nothing.
 
[X] Plan: Going Through the Rounds
-[X] What just happened?
--[X] Presumably, Sidonia left something behind for you or one of your crew. After the pendant got passed on, that was apparently enough.
-[X] How do you feel and think about what just happened?
--[X] You're not sure why tonight was the night of all nights where this happened. This also gives you a real bad feeling; you doubt that vision was just some hallucination. Notably, the familiars belonging to Sidonia aren't hostile to you anymore, so they've been compelled by some force.
-[X] What does all of that even mean?
--[X] If you were to assign some kind of meaning to all of it, you met some sort of condition that set things in motion to try and bring you to that pendant. After that, you were given a vision with some sort of meaning, which might involve death or your witch.
-[X] What do you do now?
--[X] For now, truck along with the rest of that patrol; Mami and Kirika can come along if they want to, but they don't have to, though they may be called again if you find something.
--[X] After that, start searching online about the sort of gods and religion Sidonia worshipped, and see if anything sticks out to you in particular.

Well, seeing as it's been 24 hours since the last update with no new votes, I guess I should ask for some input. @PlaguePaladin
Did this ever go anywhere? @NMS, what about you?
Sorry. Got sick, got a headache, got distracted, and then I lost track.
 
Day 16 Chapter 19
[X] Plan: Going Through the Rounds



You feel the pendant burning a hole in your pocket as the four of you finish up the rest of what turns out to be an uneventful patrol. Well, uneventful after the very strange surprise Sidonia left behind for you. For you? You have no proof the pendant was meant for you specifically, outside of nobody else feeling any sort of strange compulsion towards it. But if you, then why you? Because Sidonia has been occasionally visiting you in your dreams? But then, how did she leave her pendant behind for you to find? You could have sworn she was wearing that pendant when you defeated her, and them almost immediately after being defeated Sidonia stepped into the afterlife with her mother, so how did she leave it behind for you?

You can figure out the how later. As far as the what goes, you're fairly certain that this pendant was left behind for someone, and based on the evidence you'd guess that either yourself, or Franziska, are the most likely candidates. Assuming Sidonia has no knowledge of Franziska, that leaves you as the intended recipient, based on nothing more than the fact that only you felt a compulsion to take the pendant.

The next question you have is why? Why tonight? You could ask yourself "Why you?" until the cows come home, but asking "Why tonight?" seems like it at least might lead to fewer circular arguments. Unless Sidonia slipped out of the afterlife to give you that pendant, somehow, it must have been left there by Sidonia before she went into battle – a fact you think you can discount because you'd swear you saw Sidonia wearing it when she was defeated – and been there for the whole of that time since. Unless you assume that Sidonia really did come out of the afterlife just to leave you that pendant. The question then becomes, why tonight? What condition did you trigger for the pendant to lure you to it? What's different about tonight? Kim was defeated about half a week ago; and it seems like, aside from Benveniste's slimes, Franziska and her team haven't moved into Mitakihara. Does any of that tell you anything?

Off the top of your head, no, that doesn't tell you anything.
You must have triggered something dormant in the spells holding Sidonia's workshop together, but you have no idea what. Does it have to do with the composition of mages-slash-potential-enemies in the city to draw your attention away from Sidonia's workshop? You and Sidonia both shared some ability to manipulate Grief- Did you perhaps hit some sort of ability threshold that the workshop deemed sufficient enough to pass Sidonia's pendant on to you? What does it even mean to hold this pendant? Is this Veles taking an interest in you? Sidonia? Are you just going crazy from the stress you're under and none of this was even real? Archer, Tomoe-san, and Kirika all saw nothing, while you saw that trippy vision of yourself, your witch, and Madoka. Either there's some deeper meaning to all of that, or you really are just losing your mind.

You breathe in, and out, trying to make sense of the vision you saw. You saw yourself, watching yourself as Madoka died for the first time and you made your pact with the Incubator. Your witch was right: That was Hell you walked into. But it was a Hell you'd walk into again and again for Madoka's sake. Black gives way to white, to black, to outlines of Madoka, your mother, and Kirika. Archer isn't there? Why isn't Archer there? Why isn't Archer there? Veles is a god of the underworld: Was your witch perhaps being more literal than metaphorical in warning you of the Hell you were walking into? Was that vision a warning of something that's to come? Are you going to lose Archer? Is Archer going to lose you? What can you do to prevent yourself from losing Archer?

The only part of that vision which even made sense to you was the ending, of your witch and Madoka sitting on a throne of black. You'd guess at least that it's a metaphor for growing closer to Madoka, which is something you would like to do, but for your own hesitations holding you back. If you didn't hesitate, if you weren't terrified of what could happen if you opened yourself up to Madoka intimately, you would take her. You would take her every single night. You would take her each night a hundred times, once for each time you had to watch her die.

See? Isn't it so much nicer when you come out and admit the things you want, rather than hiding them behind your insecurities?

However, out of all the mysteries surrounding your acquisition of Sidonia's pendant tonight, there stands one good thing, one thing you can be sure of without having to soul-search the "why" behind it: Sidonia's familiars no longer attack you. Granted, you're basing this off a sample size of one werewolf, with no guarantee it would work on any of her remaining stragglers, wherever they are, but at best it means you can hunt them down with impunity and remove the threat they pose to the rest of the city.

Would that be fair? If they stand there and feel no impulse to attack you, is it wrong to take advantage of that fact to kill them? If Sidonia's pendant somehow renders them docile, perhaps you can extend that to control over them as a whole? If you could somehow wield control over Sidonia's familiars against Franziska's team… Well, the irony would not be lost on you, using Sidonia's own minions to lay waste to her descendant's forces. Not to mention using them to protect the city they once threatened. Call it, rehabilitative justice, if it works out.

But all of that is questions for another day. It's late tonight, very late, and Archer is already marching the three of you back home. "All right, girls," Archer says as you've all of you gathered back home. "Go to bed. It's late, and neither Minako nor myself are going to let you skip school tomorrow just because you're tired from running around tonight." You know Archer will see you and Kirika off separate from Tomoe-san, so he says to her "Tomoe, get some good rest. Either Minako or myself will be by in the morning to make sure you haven't accidentally cocooned the living room."

An embarrassed blush forms on Tomoe-san's cheeks, which she tries to hide by saying "Archer, please, I'll do no such thing," as if she hadn't done that once already during her stay as your guest. "But, thank you for the support. I'll see you and Minako-san tomorrow morning." Tomoe-san bows for Archer, and for you and Kirika next as she adds "Akemi-san, Kure-san, take care, and good night." With a knowing look in her eye – flashes of purple cloud gold – she adds, just for you "Try not to stay up all night researching that pendant of Sidonia's. I'm not sure you'll have much to find on a piece of uncommon jewellery from five-hundred years ago."

Maybe not. But that's not going to stop you. As Archer marches you and Kirika back to your bedroom, and closes the door behind you two with a pointed, parental "Now go to sleep, you two," Kirika stares back at you and asks, smirking "You're totally going to stay up all night researching Sidonia's pendant, aren't you?"

"Maybe not all night," you confess. "But I would like to satisfy my curiosity at least a little bit before going to bed." Hopefully your doing so won't be too much of a distraction to Kirika as she's trying to sleep.

"'Kay," is all Kirika says. "I'm gonna try to get some sleep. Try not to keep me up while you're doing whatever the heck it is you're doing."

You look away while Kirika peels off her layers, until she's reduced down to just her panties and the coiling emerald dragon tattooed across her shoulder. As Kirika reaches into her dresser drawer for one of her tee shirts you boot up your laptop; and as Kirika crawls into bed, turning off the lamp over her bedside table and bathing her half of the room in darkness, you type "Veles" into your browser's search engine. You aren't sure where you should start your search, so you decide to start from the top, clicking on the Wikipedia link bearing Veles's name.

"Veles,[a] also known as Volos, is a major god of earth, waters, livestock, and the underworld in Slavic paganism. His mythology and powers are similar, though not identical, to those of (among other deities) Odin, Loki, and Hermes..." You aren't sure where any of this even gets you, but it's a start, if nothing else.

 
Um, I guess that ends today, kind of anticlimactically, but I guess nobody had anything else to add to today? We had a chance to cool our head after watching Kinoshige die yesterday, we got to see Madoka and spend time with her, we had some fun moments with her, and then we went out on patrol and had a really trippy experience and now we don't really know what the heck is going on. I guess tomorrow I'll have an omake for you all? And then on the 26th I'll pick up with Day 17? Unless I made a mistake and there was more you wanted to do tonight (even though it's late)? If that's the case I guess I can un-end today and try to fit in whatever else you wanted, but otherwise I guess it's on to discussing what's on the agenda for tomorrow.
 
Unless I made a mistake and there was more you wanted to do tonight (even though it's late)?
Nah, it's chill. I didn't have anything to cram in here that we haven't done already today. All in all, I liked today. Come tomorrow, my plans are mainly to make progress on Ignite, see if we can't move ahead on finding the Enforcers, and maybe see if we can't figure out what this pendant means (although I imagine it's probably going to take longer than that for us to figure its significance).

For the most part I don't think Homura checking Veles's wiki page is going to net us anything, I just wanted an in-story excuse for her being on the same page as us. It is odd to me though that of all things the pendant had a ram's head on it, though we know by now that it's probably Veles in spite of that. Maybe it's more to do with Sidonia's association with Chernobog, who in this verse does at least have horns. Or perhaps this isn't Veles at all, and this goes a mite deeper than we think (or at least past surface-level stuff).
 
It is odd to me though that of all things the pendant had a ram's head on it, though we know by now that it's probably Veles in spite of that.
There is no in-story explanation for that. All of the explanation comes from out-of-story sources. First, the whole image of Sidonia that I cribbed her portrait from, depicts her with the ram's head pendant. Now, that comes from the fangame where Sidonia's NP is to summon Baphomet, so the ram's head makes sense there, but since I didn't want to go the "generic Satanist" route and wanted to do something a bit more flavourful with her, I had to do something about the ram's head. Enter Veles. Or at least, the Wikipedia page on Veles before the massive spate of edits to the Slavic pantheon pages circa 2023. See, on the old page for Veles, there was an illustration of Veles with the head of some horned animal and a stringed instrument in his hands (refer back to the description I used for the effigy in the Sidonia omake, because I cribbed that depiction straight from the old page). I assume the horned animal's head comes from Veles's association with livestock. Rams are also livestock, and since the fangame portrait of Sidonia had a ram's head pendant, I decided to go with a ram's head instead of whatever the heck that other horned animal is supposed to be. At least it wasn't far enough from the mark that Dmol wasn't able to figure out who it was supposed to be, though I suppose it helps that, when he correctly guessed the identities of the deities in Sidonia's effigies that illustration of Veles was still up on his wiki page.

Less animalistically, I do see several modern depictions of Veles wearing horns, though I have no idea if those are actually horns or just a horned headwear. Then there's the fact that the Veles symbol used by modern Slavic paganists kind of looks like a ram's head if you squint, which I did not know at the time I made the pendant into one for Veles but which I thought was cool and glad to see it worked out.

Maybe it's more to do with Sidonia's association with Chernobog, who in this verse does at least have horns
That comes from speculation on the page for Belobog (again, before Wikipedia's editors made a huge mess of every page referencing Slavic pagan topics back in 2023) about "Belobog" possibly being another name for Perun, and my guessing that that could mean that "Chernobog", whose worship the old wiki page called into question even among contemporaries of Sidonia, might have been another name for Veles. So I depicted Chernobog similarly to how I depicted Sidonia's various symbols for Veles. I won't say that it is the case the Chernobog is just another name for Veles in Confringentur, and I did go out of my way to depict Chernobog as being different enough from my depiction of Veles that they aren't guaranteed to be the same deity, but still, the damage connection is still there. Again, from a wiki page that no longer exists in its current form, so I can't even reference to you the source I used back then.

Or perhaps this isn't Veles at all, and this goes a mite deeper than we think
No, it definitely is Veles. I just have trouble sourcing the why because, again, Wikipedia editors fucked up the pages relating to Slavic pagan topics from what I used when I was coming up with this stuff.

EDIT: But also, here's a picture of Veles with a ram's head from something called the "Nightverse", where he is, coincidentally, Chernobog's son. So one would assume the son looks like the father, which could also explain why Chernobog appeared similar to Sidonia's Veles effigies.
 
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Well, I did find an image of Fates version of Chernobog. Sort of.

One of the figures in this picture is supposed to be Chernobog, but I don't know which one
I'm not going to trust Fate's depiction of any deity after what they did to the Greek gods. There is nothing you can say that will excuse those. Stick with the version of Chernobog I gave you in the sequel, please. That, at least, was inspired by an actual Slavic artist's rendition of Chernobog (along with several other sources of inspiration, but I'd wager even diluted like that it's still closer than anything FGO says).
 
I'm not going to trust Fate's depiction of any deity after what they did to the Greek gods. There is nothing you can say that will excuse those. Stick with the version of Chernobog I gave you in the sequel, please. That, at least, was inspired by an actual Slavic artist's rendition of Chernobog (along with several other sources of inspiration, but I'd wager even diluted like that it's still closer than anything FGO says).

Fair enough. What Fate did with the Greek Gods was... certainly a choice.


Still thought I'd share, since well, the seemed more accurate than the spaceships thing and I thought they looked interesting.
 
Still thought I'd share, since well, the seemed more accurate than the spaceships thing and I thought they looked interesting.
In the interest of keeping things going, since I'm not entirely fully with it enough to have that omake I said I'd have for you today ready, I'm going to take a stab at guessing which one is Chernobog. First, we can easily rule out the one with the jaguar pelt because that's clearly MesoAmerican. We can rule out the frog wearing Japanese clothes as well as the black Japanese-looking youkai and the crane (?) behind it. The lion-goat-whatever-thing I think is also out, because I don't really see too many lions in Slavic art and heraldry, so I doubt it's that one. That just leaves the skull-tree-snake thing, or the goat-headed demon holding a sword and the bull on a leash. Of the two, I think the ram-headed one is more likely. The trees on the other one's shoulders do make me think of the same Day and Night by Maxim Suhkarev that I based my depiction of Chernobog off of, but the rope belt around its waist feels a bit too Japanese and the way it's sitting feels a bit too Hindu for me to confidently feel like it's Chernobog, not to mention that I also don't see too many snakes in Slavic art and heraldry. The ram-headed one, on the other hand, has that tied shawl around its neck that's giving me very distinct babushka vibes which make me think it's supposed to be the Slavic one.
 
In the interest of keeping things going, since I'm not entirely fully with it enough to have that omake I said I'd have for you today ready, I'm going to take a stab at guessing which one is Chernobog. First, we can easily rule out the one with the jaguar pelt because that's clearly MesoAmerican. We can rule out the frog wearing Japanese clothes as well as the black Japanese-looking youkai and the crane (?) behind it. The lion-goat-whatever-thing I think is also out, because I don't really see too many lions in Slavic art and heraldry, so I doubt it's that one. That just leaves the skull-tree-snake thing, or the goat-headed demon holding a sword and the bull on a leash. Of the two, I think the ram-headed one is more likely. The trees on the other one's shoulders do make me think of the same Day and Night by Maxim Suhkarev that I based my depiction of Chernobog off of, but the rope belt around its waist feels a bit too Japanese and the way it's sitting feels a bit too Hindu for me to confidently feel like it's Chernobog, not to mention that I also don't see too many snakes in Slavic art and heraldry. The ram-headed one, on the other hand, has that tied shawl around its neck that's giving me very distinct babushka vibes which make me think it's supposed to be the Slavic one.

OK so Snakes are very much a big deal at least for Serbs, but yeah most Slavs don't have a lot of snakes in their heraldry. Lions on the other hand are considered more evil in Serbian myths than normal because of how the whole Nemean Lion myth got remembered. I brought this up back in that dragon lore post I made that Lamja/Evil Dragons are associated with Lions sometimes.

As for Fate's take on the Greek Gods that one is a reference to an old anime called Ulysses 31.
 
Omake, side Niko - Over Anything But Easy
"... What are we going to do about her?"

Christine thumbed over the table towards the living room couch Heather was sprawled out on, still sleeping as far as the trio were concerned. "What do you mean, 'What are we going to do about her?'" asked Niko. "We can't just let her go back out there while that girl is waiting for her."

"Yeah, but we can't keep her either." Christine stared at the pile of food which Niko's servant had cooked for the three of them. The sausage, she could get behind. Same with the bacon and eggs and toast. But the beans? The beans of a full English breakfast had never sat right with her, and she picked around them as she ate. "Look: That crazy girl is still out there, and until we stop her - something which, if you'll recall from last night, Niko, we had a very hard time doing - we are putting ourselves in danger by keeping her." A forkful of bacon was shoveled into her mouth, and she added with her mouth nearly full to bursting "Plus, she's an asshole. The first time we met she tried to rob us, and last night, she as still being rude even after we'd saved her ass."

"Oh, be nice, Chrissy," taunted Melissa, causing Christine to fume. "Sure, she's a little rough around the edges, but I'm sure anyone could say the same thing about you if they didn't know what a sweetie you really are."

Melissa cooed, toying with Christine by poking her food-puffed cheek with a greasy finger. Christine only fumed even harder at the gesture. "I'm plenty nice," she grumbled. "At least when people aren't trying to kick my ass or aren't taunting me, Melissa." Melissa huffed, rolling her eyes as she withdrew her finger from her friend's cheek. "Anyway, I'm against the idea of us having anything to do with her. Sure, she doesn't deserve to die just because she's an asshole, but it's not like we've got any obligation towards her as long as she's still being an asshole, right?" The question at the end of that statement was more searching than Christine had meant for it to be, as if she were seeking approval for her opinion.

Niko, for her part, chose not to give Christine her approval. "She's in pain," Niko said; "And I don't just mean from getting her ass kicked last night, either. She's holding back a lot of trauma, and-" Niko stopped herself, forcing herself to continue by saying "-And I know how up your own ass someone can be when they're hurting. Sometimes, when it hurts really bad, it's easier to push other people away so you don't drag them down with you, than it is to ask them for help." Christine and Melissa both looked to Niko. Had she really said that? "After you two had gone to sleep, I tried talking with Heather a bit more," she admitted. "I won't tell you what she told me, but it was enough for me to know that she's really hurting over what's happened to make her the way she is. Heather's not trying to be an asshole, she's jus tin so much pain that it's easier for her to push us away than to ask for help."

"Speaking from personal experience, master?" Niko, as well as Christine and Melissa, looked up as Nightingale exited the kitchen with two more plates of breakfast. One was for herself, while the other was for Heather, whom Niko and Nightingale could see rousing from the couch. Nightingale smiled as she set the two plates down, patting her master on the shoulder. "Kazumi would be very proud if she heard the way you're talking now." Niko blushed and idly bit her lip, causing Christine and Melissa to silently wonder to themselves. But over the heads of the trio, Nightingale glanced to Heather, calling out "You're staying for breakfast, right?"

"Maybe," Heather mumbled after a lengthy silence that left even Christine concerned. "I'm sure none of you would care if I didn't."

"I would," Nightingale said. "No matter how these three feel about you, you are still my patient." Nightingale's expression softened as soon as she'd spoken, adding "Besides, would I have bothered to make breakfast for you if I didn't intend on having you stay to eat it?" Heather didn't know, and frankly she didn't care either, but she sat down, making herself as small as possible at the table as she sandwiched herself between Niko and Nightingale as best as she could. "Do you have anyone you need to call to let them know you're all right?"

Heather shook her head, admitting "My mom doesn't give a fuck what I do or where I go," causing Christine to look away, ashamed of how mean she'd been now that Heather had spoken up. "My stepdad might give a shit if he thinks I've been out getting into trouble-" Which she had, but from the look on her face as she said that, neither Niko, Christine, nor Melissa thought that getting beaten up by another magical girl was the kind of trouble Heather's stepfather would care about. "-But as long as I'm not calling to let him know the cops picked me up he doesn't give a shit either."

"I see," Nightingale said, keeping her eyes trained on Heather until the girl reluctantly reached for the fork to give the sausage on her plate a bite; "And, has that ever happened before?"

"Once when I was sixteen, the cops pulled me and Maya out of a house party where we'd been drinking," Heather said, her face stony and glum. "Stepdad broke my eye socket beating me right after the cops had left after dropping me off. Mom didn't give a shit. Had to ask Alice's mom to take me to the hospital after it happened. Told the doctor I walked into a door." Heather looked to Niko, Christine, and Melissa, adding in a falsely cheerful tone "You know, just regular old-fashioned child abuse. Happens to all of us."

"It sure as shit never happened to me!" Christine shouted. "For Christ's sake, girl, you think that shit's normal? Parents who give a damn about their children don't beat them until they break bones, idiot!" Fuming, Christine asked "You said your mom didn't care? What the hell kind of mother doesn't care that her own kid's getting beat by her deadbeat husband? The fuck is wrong with your whole family? You're an asshole, your mom's an asshole, and your stepdad's the biggest asshole of you all!" Melissa had to forcibly restrain Christine from leaping out of her chair as she practically threatened Heather to "Tell me where your folks live so I can give them a piece of my mind!"

"I thought you said you didn't have any obligation to help me," Heather shot back, revealing that she'd been awake the entire time. "Why would you bother to help someone you think is just an asshole?"

"Because..." Christine's voice trailed off, and she realised she didn't actually have a good answer to Heather's question. One moment, she had been fine with letting her go off to be killed, or worse, by that crazy girl Maya from last night. The next, she was getting upset on Heather's behalf over something as comparatively mundane as abusive parents, and she didn't have a good answer as to why. Until she did. "Because," she said. "When it was just about you and that other girl, that was magical girl stuff. Niko tells me that girls back home in Japan are way more competitive about territory and resources and that shit than over here. Whatever the heck that was, it's between you and her. But, like, your parents should give a shit about you, so when they don't it's like, that's a whole other thing."

Heather glanced over to Niko, not really responding to Christine's answer with any more than a pained grunt of disinterest. Her interest was with Niko, whom she asked "You're... You're actually from Japan?" she asked, causing Niko to nod her head. "I mean, my real dad was, but I was born here, so I just thought..." Christine and Melissa both nodded their heads, and Heather asked "So then how come you speak English so good?"

"Because she was raised in California!" Melissa blurted out, before realising that she'd just cut Niko of from explaining herself. She shrank back into her seat as Christine chided her, giving only a timid "Sorry" for Niko's troubles.

Niko, rather than be hung up by Melissa's interruption, responded to Heather's question in Japanese, causing her to look at Niko, confused. Christine and Melissa thought it was the coolest thing in the world, hearing Niko speak real Japanese. This was just like one of their Japanese anime! But it told Niko what she needed to know. "Sorry," she said. "I guess you never bothered to learn the language, huh?" Heather shook her head, and Niko continued. "I was actually raised in California for most of my childhood. Sometimes, I think I speak English better than I do Japanese."

"Your skills in both languages are exemplary, master," Nightingale said. "Don't sell yourself so short. Besides-" Nightingale winked for Niko, which only caused Christine and Melissa to grow more suspicious when she said "Kazumi wouldn't like hearing you put yourself down like that. I'm sure she'd say your Japanese is the best."

"That's only because Kazumi can't speak English," Niko countered. "I wonder what she'd say if she could speak English. Would she still think my Japanese was better?"

"She'd think they were both equally the best and then she'd tell you to stop being so hard on yourself," Nightingale replied. "Really, master, you don't think that's how Kazumi would respond?"

"Anyway," Niko said, doing what she could to skip over the topic of Kazumi while two girls who didn't know she was a lesbian sat at the table next to her. Friends or not, they couldn't judge her - they couldn't judge Kazumi - if they didn't know. "Since Christine has decided that your problems do matter to us," she said to Heather, though her pointed reference was directed as much to Christine as anyone else. "We should settle on a plan to take down that Maya girl. It's going to be especially tricky, since not only can she shut off our magic at a range we have no information on yet, but she's also packing magic from several other girls, correct?" Heather nodded her head. "Unfortunately, given our limited information, any plans we make now are going to be tentative at best, but I think where we should start is...."

Christine, Melissa, and Heather just let Niko do the talking.
 
Niko takes charge, Heather's home like if shit, and Nightingale can cook a full English. Still not sure how I want to start tomorrow, and I'm amazed I got this out with how out of it I am right now. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have an easier time writing 17-1.
 
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