Conflicting Views (PMMM/JJBA)

The Ripple master that taught William Zeppeli and some others the Ripple. He was only in Phantom Blood where he didn't really accomplished anything of note despite his mastery over the Ripple. =/
Wasn't his name Tompetty, though? Also, Shizuka groups this "Tonberry" person with Caesar, Iggy, and Kakyoin under people Joseph knew who gave their lives to help others, but Tompetty just died of old age most likely, probably before Joseph was even born.
 
[X] you can manifest a body for your Stand (2HW)
-[X] make it a long range stand (1HW)
[X] increase your Stand's range (1HW)

Ultra-long range invisibilty stand? Yes please.
 
[X] you can manifest a body for your Stand (2HW) (sub-options are exclusive)
-[x] make it a close range stand (1HW)
[X] grant it a killing ability (1HW)
 
[X] you can manifest a body for your Stand (2HW) (sub-options are exclusive
-[x] make it a close range stand (1HW)
 
[X] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a killing ability (1HW)
[X] make it an automated stand (-1HW)

Personally, I hope for intangibility. It's a "natural" progression of invisibility after all.
 
[x] increase your Stand's range (1HW)
[x] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[x] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[x] grant it a killing ability (1HW)
 
[X] you can manifest a body for your Stand (2HW) (sub-options are exclusive
-[x] make it a close range stand (1HW)
 
*Looks at all the people trying to turn Shizuka into a murderer.*

Fuck all of you.

[X] you can manifest a body for your Stand (2HW) (sub-options are exclusive
-[x] make it a close range stand (1HW)
 
Just got to ask how are these differentiated?
[] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[] grant it a killing ability (1HW)

[] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[] grant it a survival ability (1HW)
 
Just got to ask how are these differentiated?
[] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[] grant it a killing ability (1HW)

[] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[] grant it a survival ability (1HW)
An offensive ability can be used to attack without actually being lethal, for example, Sticky Fingers detaching someone's limbs with its zippers. They're debilitated and can be reassembled, but they aren't dead.

A killing ability is something offensive that would be strictly lethal, so something like Killer Queen's bombs or Ciocolatta's mold growth.

Dunno about the difference between defending and survival, though it could be something that allows you to remain alive after taking an attack rather than being used to block it.
 
Defending seems like something that would prevent damage, like a force field, while survival seems like something that would allow one to survive damage, like regeneration.
 
Also, since stands reflect the type of person the user is, having a "killing ability" says very bad things about you as a person.
 
That's more Lelouch than the stand's abilities, though. Really, Painted Black's advantage is that it's a long-range stand.
Nah, it's not that

Its that the invisibility itself can be controlled. Lelouch can select what is and what is not affected, in addition to who can tell whether something is invisible or not

Stuff like the rollout of the anti stand task force and that kitchen trick were possible because of Painted Blacks nuances. Not just it's range.
 
Exactly. The kind of person that will develop a killing ability is the kind of person that will find reasons to use a killing ability.
 
@TPK: Can we evolve the stand later on, or is it now-or-never?
If you want to direct it's growth, it's now or never.
Wasn't his name Tompetty, though? Also, Shizuka groups this "Tonberry" person with Caesar, Iggy, and Kakyoin under people Joseph knew who gave their lives to help others, but Tompetty just died of old age most likely, probably before Joseph was even born.
The perils of secondhand information.
 
[X] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a survival ability (1HW)
[X] make it an automated stand (-1HW)
 
[X] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a survival ability (1HW)

We can totally pretend to be a Puella Magi with this build.
 
[X] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a survival ability (1HW)

Making it automated without giving it a body seems kind of what the hell. Wouldn't that be automating Shizuka's own body?
 
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