Conflicting Views (PMMM/JJBA)

HW regenerates, this is our one chance to update the Stand. How long is the timeline of PMMM from now to Walpurgistnacht?


[X] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a survival ability (1HW)
[X] make its powers obvious (-1HW)
 
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HW regenerates, this is our one chance to update the Stand. How long is the timeline of PMMM from now to Walpurgistnacht?

[X] you can manifest a body for your Stand (2HW) (sub-options are exclusive)
-[X] make it a close range stand (1HW)

[X] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[X] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
HW burnt for this is permaburnt. Shizuka HW burnt for anything else has regen.
 
Mmm. Well, seeing as how we burn permanent heroic willpower to get new abilities, I have to say that having a Stand manifestation is less necessary than I would have previously thought. Just getting a few new, mixable abilities sounds good to me.

[x] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[x] grant it a defending ability (1HW)
[x] grant it a survival ability (1HW)
 
Would it be right to draw comparisons between Madara's "stealth is useless" and Shizuka's "obvious powers"? Because "stealth is useless" is bloody hilarious and I want more of that mindset.
 
[x] grant it an offensive ability (1HW)
[x] grant it a defending ability(1HW)
[x] grant it a survival ability (1HW)
 
Question : is there any chance that automatic stand would be able to respond to frozen time / time reversal and other things we can't react to?
 
Question : is there any chance that automatic stand would be able to respond to frozen time / time reversal and other things we can't react to?

Not unless it has some form of time based ability itself. Stands still obey the flow of time.
A Stand that was precognitive to some degree might be able to set up a defence ahead of time, but it wouldn't be capable of acting during a time stop.
 
Question : is there any chance that automatic stand would be able to respond to frozen time / time reversal and other things we can't react to?
Automatic mostly means that it has its own agenda. I don't think adding one more thing with which to negotiate is the way to go in this setting.

I really think the obvious drawback is worth taking. Shizuka has already managed to be ostentatious in her use of an invisibility power. How likely is it that she keeps anything about her Stand secret for any useful length of time?
 
Just put it down as Early Installment Weirdness, Araki probably didn't fully plan out the Automatic Stand's lack of damage transference until later, with Stands like Judgment and Black Sabbath.
 
Just put it down as Early Installment Weirdness, Araki probably didn't fully plan out the Automatic Stand's lack of damage transference until later, with Stands like Judgment and Black Sabbath.
And there were some close combat Stands that were immune to transfering damage, Silver Chariot with its armor on for example. The tradeoff is that Polneraf couldn't see through Silver Chariot.
 
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