Someone finally comments on that.
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translates to:
"Information Censured by The Fabricator General and the Emperor"
 
Additional translation, we are not going to be told until QM is good and ready.
I'm betting that they have something to do with both the founding of the Mechanicum and the Men of Iron. Something like that would absolutely be kept a secret due to the religious schisms that it would cause. The only other thing that would make it more volatile would be if they were part of the creation of the STCs.
 
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Great quest qm but i have some questions:
Is it because it's 30k mechanicus instead of the 40k one that they seem to care so much about ecosystems and seem to be relatively not assholes ?

The underground expedition we did at the begining of the quest was just to clear an area/single tunnel web of the underground right ?,because mars underground as a whole are supposed to be titanic as hell to the point that even 10k year later they are still filled with unexplored area and horrors.
 
Is it because it's 30k mechanicus instead of the 40k one that they seem to care so much about ecosystems and seem to be relatively not assholes ?
30k Exploraror faction does care for the ecosystem in the way that it brings natural discoveries and unique lifeforms.

The underground expedition we did at the begining of the quest was just to clear an area/single tunnel web of the underground right ?,because mars underground as a whole are supposed to be titanic as hell to the point that even 10k year later they are still filled with unexplored area and horrors.
Miscalculation of the QM there. Next update I will add a new option for it. Thanks for that.
 
30k Exploraror faction does care for the ecosystem in the way that it brings natural discoveries and unique lifeforms.
They're not afraid of new knowledge, I imagine that helps quite a bit. With 40K mechanicus, I imagine the destruction of alien ecosystems is an indirect benefit to them, because it eliminates new things they would have to be worried about as unknowns. There's no thought of learning something from them, only eliminating a potential future problem.

Miscalculation of the QM there. Next update I will add a new option for it. Thanks for that.
Honestly, that's pretty easy to justify. You could just up the difficulty level of these new sections, stating that they weren't available until you got more allies, improved your Tech, and improved your doctrines. Since now we've done all three to some extent, now you can access a couple of more sections that are considerably more dangerous than before.
 
The underground expedition we did at the begining of the quest was just to clear an area/single tunnel web of the underground right ?,because mars underground as a whole are supposed to be titanic as hell to the point that even 10k year later they are still filled with unexplored area and horrors.
Keep in mind that the Dark Mechanicus would have wrecked most of the containment measures that had survived the collapse into the Age of Strife and added their own monsters to the mix... and that even beyond that, the Mechanicus of later ages is just as poorly built of a societal system as the Imperium and is, on the whole, a net producers of horrible things to go off to hide in the underground and make it impossible to clear.

So all combined, it could very well be a lot easier to clear up if the Mechanicus of Mars had an earlier, easier time of pulling together due to our order actually helping to protect against daemonic forces (as opposed to what presumably happened in other timelines, which was being a vector through which warp monstrosities could afflict Mars).
 
Keep in mind that the Dark Mechanicus would have wrecked most of the containment measures that had survived the collapse into the Age of Strife and added their own monsters to the mix... and that even beyond that, the Mechanicus of later ages is just as poorly built of a societal system as the Imperium and is, on the whole, a net producers of horrible things to go off to hide in the underground and make it impossible to clear.

So all combined, it could very well be a lot easier to clear up if the Mechanicus of Mars had an earlier, easier time of pulling together due to our order actually helping to protect against daemonic forces (as opposed to what presumably happened in other timelines, which was being a vector through which warp monstrosities could afflict Mars).
That's fair and you have some good point but still,mars was one of the place with some of the most advenced if not the most advenced human stuff,probably one of the most developed human world and thus a very intersting place to target/fuckup for men of iron/chaos/other,even if all those agravating event don't happen it will still take millenia to realy clean fully clean the titanic undergrounds web of all the messed up stuff from the long night and before/after in it,tough it will likely take less time to just clean the biggest/badest part.
 
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That's fair and you have some good point but still,mars was one of the place with some of the most advenced if not the most advenced human stuff,probably one of the most developed human world and thus a very intersting place to target/fuckup for men of iron/chaos/other,even if all those agravating event don't happen it will still take millenia to realy clean fully clean the titanic undergrounds web of all the messed up stuff from the long night and before/after in it,tough it will likely take less time to just clean the biggest/badest part.
The main thing that would have held Mars back from clearing out areas that hadn't already been cleared out would have been hazards that they had no defense against -- which is what our warding schemes provided. You're basically extrapolating how bad it was in the future to it having always been that bad, when that's very much not the case. Mars is unified, despite its internal factions, and has been for quite a long while now. It is, in fact, entirely possible that the warding systems were all that were needed for the efforts of the whole of Mars to finish clearing out the remaining uncontrolled areas in a couple decades of work.
 
The main thing that would have held Mars back from clearing out areas that hadn't already been cleared out would have been hazards that they had no defense against -- which is what our warding schemes provided. You're basically extrapolating how bad it was in the future to it having always been that bad, when that's very much not the case. Mars is unified, despite its internal factions, and has been for quite a long while now. It is, in fact, entirely possible that the warding systems were all that were needed for the efforts of the whole of Mars to finish clearing out the remaining uncontrolled areas in a couple decades of work.
As far as i know mars realy united itslef between M25 and M30 so ok if it was closer to the first than the second then they would have had quit some time to clean stuff around but i realy think you underestimate the sheer size of mars undergrounds and even if only the parts with warp fuckery are left to cloean i would be surprised if it less than a half of the total with how chaos,the dragon and everithing elses went raw on the human worlds for milenia.
I don't disagree that wards (improved ones i don't think ours curents ones are advenced enough to deal with all the fuckery down there) could be the tool to finish clearing the stuff mars hadn't the right answer to so far (tough i hope we will meet things that will need the use of other tool/allies for more variety/fun) but even then it's not because we have the right too that it won't take very very long to meticuoulsy check every millions of kilometers of galery until we found every of the last criter on those damn undergrounds (especialy since i wouldn't be surprised to learn that more spawned in previously cleaned area.

But ultimately that's the qm decision.

Also by the way qm i found a map of M30 mars,it surpised me a bit but it's very interesting:
M30 mars
Where i found it:
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Mars

"Let nothing dissuade your Quest for Knowledge. Let none slow your pursuit and acquisition of holy technology. Let no one stand between you and the procurement of that which is rightfully the Machine God's due." —Thusdorius Knoch, Invictus Acquisitor Mars, also known as the "Red Planet," is the...
 
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Scheduled vote count started by Khororhoth on Nov 1, 2024 at 9:35 PM, finished with 35 posts and 23 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Navy & Low Hanging Fruit
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances
    -- [X] Basilikon Astra
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    -[X] [Research] The Question of the Machine Soul
    -- [X] Refined Rite Overhauling
    [X] Plan: Navy & More Wards
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances
    -- [X] Basilikon Astra
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    -- [X] Ward Overhaul Initiative (0/2)
    [X] Plan: Navy & Metamaterials
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances
    -- [X] Basilikon Astra
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    -[X] [Research] Develop New Warp-Related Technologies
    -- [X] Metamaterials (0/3)
    [X] Plan: Navy & Exploration
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances
    -- [X] Basilikon Astra
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    -[X] [Military] Exploratory Missions Support
    -- [X] Sol (Easy)
    [X] Plan: Navy & Lab Space
    -[X] [General] Expand the Castellum
    -- [X] Research Domes II (0/3)
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances
    -- [X] Basilikon Astra
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    [X] Plan Skitters and Final Push For Commitment
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances (Who?)
    --[X] The Skitarius
    -[X] [Research] Develop New Warp-Related Technologies
    --[X] Metamaterials (0/3) x3 x2 AP, x1 Bonus Research AP
    [X] Plan Initiate Wards and Warriors
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances (Who?)
    --[X] The Skitarius
    -- [X] Basilikon Astra
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    [X] Plan More Forces
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances (Who?)
    --[X] The Skitarius
    -[X] [General] Expand the Castellum
    --[X] Infrastructure (0/3)
    -[X] [Research] The Question of the Machine Soul
    --[X] The Truth(Fact) of the Soul (0/2) x2
    [X] Plan Search for the Soul
    -[X] [Research] The Question of the Machine Soul
    --[X] The Truth(Fact) of the Soul (0/2) x2
    --[X] The Narrative(Tale) of the Soul (0/2) x2
    [X] Plan Working Continues
    -[X] [General] Expand the Castellum
    --[X] Infrastructure (0/3)
    -[X] [Research] Develop New Warp-Related Technologies
    --[X] Ghoststone Mass-Production (0/5) x3
    [X] Plan All in wards
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    --[X] Ward Overhaul Initiative (0/2) x2
    [X] Plan Forging Infrastructure
    -[X] [General] Expand the Castellum
    --[X] Infrastructure (0/3)
    -[X] [General] Forge Alliances (The Skitarius)
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    -- [X] Ward Overhaul Initiative (0/2)
    [X] Plan Search for the Ghost
    -[X] [Research] Develop New Warp-Related Technologies
    --[X] Ghoststone Mass-Production (0/5)
    -[X] [Research] Enhance the Wards' Capabilities
    -- [X] Efficient Durability
    -[X] [Research] The Question of the Machine Soul
    --[X] The Truth(Fact) of the Soul (0/2) x2
    [X] Plan Meta-Ghost
    -[X] [Research] Develop New Warp-Related Technologies
    --[X] Ghoststone Mass-Production (0/5)
    --[X] Metamaterials (0/3) x3
    [X] Plan Last Doctrine and Final Push For Commitment
    -[X] [Military] Redesigning the Doctrines
    -- [X] Initiation Protocols in Hexagramic Wards
    -[X] [Research] Develop New Warp-Related Technologies
    --[X] Metamaterials (0/3) x2 AP, x1 Bonus Research AP

Research Durability: 58
Research Overhauling: 78
Khororhoth threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Research Total: 136
58 58 78 78
 
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I feel like allying with the Genetor and or the Provender factions would be the way to keep the planet nice, and possibly even make other planets nice as well.
 
As far as i know mars realy united itslef between M25 and M30 so ok if it was closer to the first than the second then they would have had quit some time to clean stuff around but i realy think you underestimate the sheer size of mars undergrounds and even if only the parts with warp fuckery are left to cloean i would be surprised if it less than a half of the total with how chaos,the dragon and everithing elses went raw on the human worlds for milenia.
I don't disagree that wards (improved ones i don't think ours curents ones are advenced enough to deal with all the fuckery down there) could be the tool to finish clearing the stuff mars hadn't the right answer to so far (tough i hope we will meet things that will need the use of other tool/allies for more variety/fun) but even then it's not because we have the right too that it won't take very very long to meticuoulsy check every millions of kilometers of galery until we found every of the last criter on those damn undergrounds (especialy since i wouldn't be surprised to learn that more spawned in previously cleaned area.

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Mars

"Let nothing dissuade your Quest for Knowledge. Let none slow your pursuit and acquisition of holy technology. Let no one stand between you and the procurement of that which is rightfully the Machine God's due." —Thusdorius Knoch, Invictus Acquisitor Mars, also known as the "Red Planet," is the...
I think the qm said originally that we only cleared the very top layers. So the 'easy' to do stuff

So i could easily see that what we did was deal with alot of warp stuff so that the rest doesnt need to watch there flanks when guarding against deeper layers.
 
Since we are the faction that make all the warp tech on the top of our wards does that mean we have factories ?
 
Assuming there are more levels to Mars's Labyrinth than what we took over, I'd be down for pushing further into deeper levels. Given the nature of the next update, we'll have very firm logistics with the Basilikon Astra on our side, plus a measure of Titan support (plus our cemented alliance with the cybernetica) that we didn't have the first time. Our wards are stronger, tougher, more capable, and we have two demonic incursions that we gained vital experience from. There's literally no better time to tackle this than now.

I want to push as deep as we can into the Martian Labyrinth before the Emperor knocks and anything about his Great Crusade triggers off. That's a firestorm I'm not looking forward to. I want as much DAOT STCs as we can get before then, and below our feet is the best place to find anything.
 
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