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Nice! Logical. They followed that train track to its destination, not realizing that the station they went to was not the main junction.
 
Honestly it is the best possible misinterpretation they could make. This way Zion doesn't get any heads up from their leaky meet-brains that there is a potential threat that is working on dealing with him specifically.
 
Ghost in a wall said:
Hey, the Mechanicus did have a point somewhere in the dogma!
Fleshy bits are disgusting, and really, if you could go full upload and keep all the sensations flesh gives.... why wouldn't you?
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Yea but what Reliabuilt is doing is tech heresy as the upload process creates an AI, it's pretty much what the Necrons did to themselves. The Ad-mec believe in turning themselves into pieces of industrial equipment. Or military hardware as needs must.
 
Nihilo said:
"Omnissaiah deliver me from this treacherous meat" is a common line in many internet circles.
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When your meat complains from excess movement, not enough movement, too much barometric change, too little heat, too little humidity, too much humidity, going down stairs without your ankle locked, and more beside, you start to fantasize about replacing it all with better options. The stairs thing is from me twisting my ankle...two years ago. The rest is arthritis.
 
DeusExMima-sama said:
Man, how stupid are they that the mention of Scion being the thing that gets her kicked out doesn't raise any flags?
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Yeah, and considering DM is not a parahuman, it can't all be blamed on shard-host influence.
I look forward to their collective "well, duh" moment TBH :3
 
Jordisk said:
When your meat complains from excess movement, not enough movement, too much barometric change, too little heat, too little humidity, too much humidity, going down stairs without your ankle locked, and more beside, you start to fantasize about replacing it all with better options. The stairs thing is from me twisting my ankle...two years ago. The rest is arthritis.
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Similar here. Less arthritis, more unfun mostly-joint-focus pain that's somehow neurological, plus, well, all the other things.

Anyway, yes, my sympathies for also being stuck in a malfunctioning bag of water and without OEM support or replacement parts. I'd also likely go for cyborgification, especially if my new soffware bits are verifiably correct and secure etc.

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L: So this means you can have uploads with brains from different manufacturers check each other for that kind of bullshit. Heck, you can get members of the former Machine Army to look you over, if you really want.
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Yes, very-much that kind of approach (as well as auditing the thing myself prior to upload, or establishing trust from machine-checkable proofs, if practical)
Diverse compilation/verification pathways are a solid way to prevent "trusting trust"-style attacks.
 
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We Just Write said:
As for governmental interference of the kind you're describing, there are massive pragmatic incentives NOT to do that. The biggest and most obvious one being that the "golden goose" just keeps inventing new stuff, And then patenting and licensing it. Leave them be and you keep getting shinies, poke them too hard and that stops.
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Ha ha, wait your serious… let me laugh even harder HA HA HA

You believe a government and politicians want the best for the country? They want control, and all this advanced tech getting sent out whole hog would probably scare them more. The upload process itself is reducing the governments ability to project force to enforce the word of law (even more than parahumans were) as they're all brutes who can survive anything the cops could do. (I might have misunderstood this but I'm sure a similar point is made about several of his technologies)

If you don't want to take the story that way it's fine, I just wanted to make the suggestion as the cliche government oversight mini arc is cliche for a reason
 
We Just Write said:
L: There's another consideration: Reliabuilt (the company) has a legal department. Said collection of lawyers can handle the vast majority of governmental annoyances offscreen.

N: Also, uploads strengthen the government's monopoly on force; suddenly, you can recruit and train as many "capes" as you need.
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Actually, a lot of the "training" is "exhaust them and adjust their mindset when so weakened". With tireless mechanical bodies, that just doesn't work.
 
Jordisk said:
Actually, a lot of the "training" is "exhaust them and adjust their mindset when so weakened". With tireless mechanical bodies, that just doesn't work.
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F: Really depends on the methodology. If you vet for loyalty first, then focus on actually teaching combat skills, you should be ahle to get pretty good results.
 
We Just Write said:
F: Really depends on the methodology. If you vet for loyalty first, then focus on actually teaching combat skills, you should be ahle to get pretty good results.
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I want to pont out that my examples is for the majority of militaries around the world, including all UN Veto countries. In the US at least, it is also the method used for p I loce academies. What do you think Bootcamp is for?
 
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Interlude: Travelers
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    • A/N: This is the last Interlude before Arc 9: Colonization.
    The group was currently holed up in a motel in Baltimore, when Krouse - Trickster - spotted something very interesting in a newspaper that Jesse - Genesis - was currently reading.

    Brain Uploading Offers Hope for Case 53s

    "Jesse, can I see that newspaper for a while?"

    "Oh, sure thing Krouse."

    And so, Krouse began to read the article. What he found was very very interesting. As it turned out, a Tinker by the name of Ruggedizer had not only developed a technique for turning people into robots, not only had the technology been authorized for medical use, but it was reproducible. Eventually, someone thought to see what would happen if a Case 53 got put through the machine, with an unfortunate woman variously known as Garotte or Sveta volunteering to be the first test subject.

    And then Ruggedizer caught wind of it - and absolutely insisted that Reliabuilt's "in house" brain design be used for the test, on the grounds that it could resist power interference in ways the public release models couldn't. Though the exact specifics of how remained a trade secret. Fortunately for Sveta, her upload went perfectly, and now she was in rehabilitation.

    Putting down the article, Krouse thought for a moment.

    "You know, getting Ruggedizer to upload Noelle might just be the solution to a lot of our problems."

    Mars thought for a moment,

    "I mean, it's worth a shot. Ruggedizer's company has a public contact telephone number, right? Why don't we just call them and find out if they can help?"

    Krouse shook his head.

    "No, that won't work. Goody-two-shoes types like that never want to risk their reputation by associating with people like us. We need leverage."

    Jesse and Mars slowly nodded, before Jesse asked,

    "So, do you know what we can do to get leverage over Ruggedizer?"

    "No. But I know where we need to go to find out. We need to go to Brockton Bay."
     
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    • Technically yeah it is his fault most of the time in fandom for doing something moronically stupid that get all the travellers killed or jailed. Plus Noelle does because of his stupidity.
     
    This is... not the most positive depiction of transhumanism I've seen, but certainly in the top five. I like it! But, for one:

    Noelle might welcome the certainty of steel, but would her boyfriend? Last I read, every Ruggedizer weighs a couple hundred pounds at least, every Reliabuilt body has no sex organ analogues to speak of... and Trickster and Noelle are in a relationship, yeah?
     
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