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Future Ria: Mostly the same as Regular Ria, but with a lapel pin that says 'Ramiel had some great ideas'.
And apparently got screwed over by Misato even more, seems like she killed Rias parents.
Future Ria: Mostly the same as Regular Ria, but with a lapel pin that says 'Ramiel had some great ideas'.
Yeesh... someone's spent 20 years soaking in anger and unresolved blaming Misato for everything that led to where they are now. And brought all of WILLE along too, somehow. All of whom have apparently been hybridized into partial Angels, too. And Maya addresses her as 'My Lady'? ...um... implications...Misato. The name boiled in her mind. So much pain, so much grief could be laid at the feet of that damned woman.
That's... not encouraging. Mari and all the other survivors of WILLE have completely bought into whatever plan Ria's running, to the point no one has even suggested 'Let's tell them the truth, and go for forgiveness and peace backed by future knowledge to head off all the mistakes.' Even seeing her parents again isn't enough to sway Future Ria from her hatred for Angels and her own estranged grandmother."We done a lot of ugly things over the years to survive," Mari said. "This will save them from a whole world of pain. They might not appreciate it now, but they will."
Or at least she blames Misato for the chain of events that got them killed. I imagine if they were killed as a result of something Misato's 'All Angels must die, no peace deals', she'd hold her responsible for it. Like, if they were killed by Dimitri or something. All of the anger Ria's sitting on right now would be magnified a thousand times, and if Misato herself died before she and Ria ever either patched things up or resolved it some other way, she'd have 20 years or so to stew in blaming Misato for things. Kind of how like someone who lost their family in World War I can blame everything on Gavrilo Princip for starting it.And apparently got screwed over by Misato even more, seems like she killed Rias parents.
Misato didn't kill Future!Ria's parents, Misato doing that would require drastic changes between here and there. And if that was the case, Future!Ria would probably not have allowed Misato to leave that room alive. Future!Ria certainly lays the blame for her Parent's death on Misato. Along with a few other things. And as Strypgia mentioned, she's been soaking in that anger for decades.I think Ria's issues are looking a little more pronounced than "Her incompetence and blatant racism led to my parents dying". My guess is, however unbelievable that is, Misato was involved in the matter more... intimately.
Not all of them, Some of them are still 100% human. And admittedly this WILLE doesn't have a whole lot of the same membership current day WILLE has, she brought in quite a few people. A lot of stuff has happened.And brought all of WILLE along too, somehow. All of whom have apparently been hybridized into partial Angels, too. And Maya addresses her as 'My Lady'? ...um... implications...
If anything, seeing her parents again increased Ria's hatred. All those old wounds have been ripped right open and she sees a chance to fix everything dangling in front of her.That's... not encouraging. Mari and all the other survivors of WILLE have completely bought into whatever plan Ria's running, to the point no one has even suggested 'Let's tell them the truth, and go for forgiveness and peace backed by future knowledge to head off all the mistakes.' Even seeing her parents again isn't enough to sway Future Ria from her hatred for Angels and her own estranged grandmother.
Like I said earlier, it's only a matter of time before someone in WILLE figures out Ria's parents are her beserk button. And if someone attacks O- Shinji and Asuka before Misato can do anything, well...Misato didn't kill Future!Ria's parents, Misato doing that would require drastic changes between here and there.
Reframe it, Ria: What if you're all just people. You think Tabris wasn't?And what if Koda was right and they were fundamentally just humans?
Yeah... the idea that not only did you contemplate killing your own father out of panic and fear, but that it might have all been a mistake, too?'All that isolation, the trust I placed in Okito, the fear, the doubt, wondering if I would ever be found out, What I nearly did all those years ago…'
She backed away from that last thought. That was something she was not prepared to face.
That is a pretty ewwww image."Okay, first off," Koda growled, growing irate. "If you ever say the phrase 'Okito with breasts' again, I will find you and turn you into a coat. Second thing... no."
She's also you, Koda, who has had a bit more trauma dumped on her head lately, starting with her brother deciding what he wanted to be when he grows up is 'A genocidal monster', threatening to kill their father in front of the whole family, and her best friend lying to her their whole lives about also being a monster. So yeesh, cut her a little slack. You of all people should sympathize."Because you're belligerent asshole, an immature brat, and frankly... why should I? It's my phone."
Kodama is fundamentally lashing out primarily out of grief and frustration. Koda could be more sympathetic for sure but that would probably wouldn't help a bit. How they see the other is probably preventing them from trying to reach out to each other. Kodama certainly doesn't see Koda as another version of herself, just a monster wearing her face. Whereas Koda is perfectly willing to acknowledge Kodama is another version of her self and she doesn't like seeing someone who's more or less herself being so mean and angry to her friends.She's also you, Koda, who has had a bit more trauma dumped on her head lately, starting with her brother deciding what he wanted to be when he grows up is 'A genocidal monster', threatening to kill their father in front of the whole family, and her best friend lying to her their whole lives about also being a monster. So yeesh, cut her a little slack. You of all people should sympathize.
I get you. To be fair if Misato goes back to starving him after this, he's dead. And he's pretty much a wreck health wise at this point.
Maybe you're fighting the wrong battles. If you hadn't tried to re-fight the last war, things might be different.If I keep my soul but lose everything I care about, what is even the point of fighting?
Maybe you're fighting the wrong battles. If you hadn't tried to re-fight the last war, things might be different.
A classic mistake: Trying to fight the previous war instead of the current one. Adapt or die, Misato. The Angels aren't mindless monsters anymore. They're people with minds and hearts of their own, and you pushed the neutral Angels into Ramiel's camp when you declared this to be a war of genocide. You are VERY lucky that Ria got that Imperial Pardon or you might have already dumped Ria into Ramiel's lap with an action motivated by pure bloodlust.
Probably not herself. But she certainly wouldn't ally with Ramiel. Her allying with Ramiel was pretty much impossible after her parents found out the truth. Now if there was no pardon she would probably also have lashed out against Misato eventually as well.She'd have dumped Ria into going on a search and destroy of every angel on the planet as well as herself.
Misato trying to kill her again wouldn't mean her ever wanting to work with Ramiel.
"You exist because I allowed it," she stated. "You still live because it could prove useful. If I had the power, you and all of your kind would be washed away."
Just like Tabris...A diagram appeared on a large screen behind Misato and Ritsuko. It was a detailed drawing of a human Larynx, showing all the muscle and cartilage. A single red arrow pointed towards the center of it.
"The Angel's Core turns out be microscopic," Ritsuko said, "woven around their median thyrohyoid ligament. Nearly impossible to detect unless you know where to look. Thankfully the Third Angel's... episode gave us a very clear idea of where to do so. Now, we have to conduct further tests, hopefully with the cooperation of Ria Soryu and the other Kodama Suzuhara of course, but we believe…"
And it never even enters his mind that 'Hikari' might be lying to him.
You had friends, family, loving parents... it was all in your head that you decided this wasn't enough, Okito. Adam tried to let you free. You're the one who threw it away."I did not abandon you," Tabris insisted. "This is was supposed to be your reward. You all served well and proudly."
"REWARD?!" Okito screamed. "You think this is a reward?! You twisted and mutilated us into our own enemies! You gave us a second life with a no purpose, no duty! You abandoned us!"
'You abandoned me!' he added mentally.
I note he doesn't say the same for Leliel, just that she's meddling with things she can't understand. I guess the 'panic and randomly start crossing universes' move has irritated some copies of the Progenitors, and made a mess of universes that were previously trouble-free.Tabris shook his head sadly, enraging Okito further. "Ramiel and Leliel both are meddling in things far beyond their understanding. Ramiel's efforts will end in failure and misery."
Yep. Leliel took what should have been a local mess, and made it a now spiraling and expanding problem for who knows how many worlds now..."Because your stupidity has set into motion a truly dangerous series of events that has cascaded far beyond your control," she said nearly emotionlessly.
Damn it, I was going to make that joke.