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Hahahaha poor younger Asuka .
Can you make flashback how future Shinji and Asuka start dating ?
Can you make flashback how future Shinji and Asuka start dating ?
WILLE in general never expected to have to take care of a working Evangelion again.
So they don't have the cables anymore, admittedly rigging some up shouldn't be that hard.
Huh. Sad and worrying that Shinji's starting to have constant guilt-fueled nightmares now, 20 years after the fact, and after he's visibly more mature and stable than he was at the time. You really should see a therapist about things like this, Shinji, but it looks like you've closed that option off by never telling anyone about the truth of Third Impact:But over the past few years, his nightmares had grown worse and worse. To the point where barely a week went by when he didn't have at least a couple of them. Waking up covered in cold sweat, visions of Third Impact or his fight with Bardiel filling his head. It didn't take a psychiatrist, though he'd seen more than one, to tell him it was guilt.
And we all know exactly which sentence that is... I can understand why, but it's saddening that Shinji never told anyone, not even Asuka while they were together. She of all people might be able to understand... but then again, Shinji got shut down cold when he asked her for just that sort of understanding during Instrumentality.Guilt over his failures, guilt over the could have beens, the people he could have saved if he was braver. And guilt over a sentence he would regret until his dying breath.
It's just so Shinji that he's already worrying like this about the future-daughter he just met.
Oh wow, yeah... I'm pretty sure Ria (or anyone else, for that matter) would never want to even meet Grandpa Gendo Ikari, or even acknowledge the relationship."I mean if the reverse had happened and WILLE had ended up in your time, I would be terrified. Well admittedly there would be Angels and SEELE, and grandpa too now that I think."
We're in Kyoto, it's not very surprising or helpful to ID the suspect as 'Japanese'."Suspect is a teenager, maybe seventeen, male. Japanese according to eyewitnesses."
Ah, Misato... the amount of things you're not telling the Pilots or Shinji 'for their own good' is starting to add up. Even if it's for the best of intentions, you're going to be facing some unhappy and mistrustful people when/if they find out some or all of the things you're hiding. No one likes being lied to, especially not Shinji. The older one might understand, even if he's hurt, but young Shinji... remember how badly he reacted to learning Kaworu had withheld a few key things?"Let's not tell this to Shinji or the Pilots for now," Misato added.
The Tenth Angel... so this is before Asuka has even admitted to herself that she's attracted to Shinji, much less gotten to the point of trying a kiss. So yeah, learning 'not only did you kiss him, you had a serious relationship long enough to have a kid with him' is... that would be a huge shock and a hard thing to handle even for someone totally stable and self-secure. For someone as insecure and emotionally fragile as Asuka was back then... yeesh. This is practically low-key for how it could have been."Near as I can tell, they were taken during the fight with the Tenth Angel. Pretty sure neither of us had even thought about that by that point."
Wait, what? WILLE doesn't have the budget handy to even kick older Shinji and Asuka a couple thousand dollars a month to help pay for upkeep on the Pilots? Misato commands a major government agency, but expects the older pair to handle this out of pocket? Come on, Misato."You two have the financial means to support them easily and understand their issues better than anyone else."
At the same time, Shinji, remember that the last time you lived together, you cared enough about each other that a serious relationship began, and a child came of it. It wasn't all bad, however it led to you breaking up, and I'd lay most of the blame for that on the fact you both were hugely damaged by the Angel War and Instrumentality over it being you and Asuka being bad people."Misato, you do remember the last time I lived with Asuka I ended up having to leave the country, right?!" Shinji shouted.
Like this, yeah. You and Asuka have matured to the point you get along well as adults, can calmly and seriously discuss matters about your daughter together, and even joke easily about your personality quirks with no trace of hostility. That Asuka is willing to reach out and talk about something like this, and self-aware enough to acknowledge that what drove you apart was serious psychological issues you've both grappled with and gotten something of a handle on is a very encouraging sign that you both can handle living near each other and deal with your younger selves. After all, who knows your issues from back then more than yourselves?Asuka turned towards him. "Shinji, you realize we were both on the verge of a psychological breakdown when you left? We are both far far better off then we were thirteen years ago. Neither of us could handle them alone. Living next to each other, it wouldn't be so bad."
"Really?" Shinji said, shocked.
Asuka nodded "Really."
"...Okay," he said reluctantly. "I'll help."
That might have been a trigger, but I think most of it was Shinji's raging guilt over 'They can all just die', which he evidently never told anyone about, and Asuka's matching complex about her mother, her defeat and death in battle, and how none of that was ever addressed afterward. I'm betting therapists were both in very short supply and what ones there were hugely overtasked in the aftermath of Third Impact, and Shinji and Asuka never got serious care for their problems in all that. This would only be made worse by the way both of them would be very reluctant to talk about their problems at all, or in Shinji's case, actively concealing the core problems entirely. How could anyone, much less someone as withdrawn and ego-less as Shinji, admit 'I nearly killed everyone in the world because I was having a psychological breakdown when someone gave me the powers of a god'?I'm loving this, tho I wonder what caused the breakdown that made Shinji n Asuka break up? Was it Asuka's sudden pregnancy
Is Asuka father going to show up or at least be mention. I would like it if Future Asuka had a... better relationship with the man. (mostly because it rarely done in fics and I want to see how younger Asuka reacts to that:lol).Just going to say flat out that it's not going to be primarily a comedy
Langely is still alive, though Asuka is not on good terms with him. As far as Asuka and Shinji are concerned, Misato is Ria's only grandparent.Is Asuka father going to show up or at least be mention. I would like it if Future Asuka had a... better relationship with the man. (mostly because it rarely done in fics and I want to see how younger Asuka reacts to that:lol).
Shinji's problem is he was told by Misato not to tell anyone about what happened, not even herself. Misato's developed something of a habit of lying to protect people since Third Impact.And we all know exactly which sentence that is... I can understand why, but it's saddening that Shinji never told anyone, not even Asuka while they were together. She of all people might be able to understand... but then again, Shinji got shut down cold when he asked her for just that sort of understanding during Instrumentality.
Yeah. Yeesh, what a slate: Mr. Langley (Cheated on Kyoko with Asuka in earshot, practically abandoned her to be raised by NERV while he ran off with the woman he cheated with), Asuka's Step-mother (The woman she heard her father cheat with), Yui Ikari (Raised by an apocalyptic cult, made Shinji watch her die), and Gendo Ikari (Gendo Fucking Ikari). Kyoko was barely more than a ghost in the machine that Asuka had only 5 minutes with before 3rd Impact. Small wonder Shinji and Asuka only want to consider Misato as Ria's family.Langely is still alive, though Asuka is not on good terms with him. As far as Asuka and Shinji are concerned, Misato is Ria's only grandparent.
That's sadly very Misato: Bury the pain, don't talk about it, pretend it didn't happen and everything is ok, no matter what. Misato still hasn't learned that burying it, denial, and booze are very bad coping mechanisms... No wonder Shinji and Asuka eventually had breakdowns that drove them apart. Not surprising either that residual guilt over 'failing' at a relationship would keep them from even trying again once they'd healed some.Shinji's problem is he was told by Misato not to tell anyone about what happened, not even herself. Misato's developed something of a habit of lying to protect people since Third Impact.
Part of the reason Ria is big on having friends. Because without them all she has is Shinji, Asuka, and Misato. And Shinji wasn't around much until recently.Yeah. Yeesh, what a slate: Mr. Langley (Cheated on Kyoko with Asuka in earshot, practically abandoned her to be raised by NERV while he ran off with the woman he cheated with), Asuka's Step-mother (The woman she heard her father cheat with), Yui Ikari (Raised by an apocalyptic cult, made Shinji watch her die), and Gendo Ikari (Gendo Fucking Ikari). Kyoko was barely more than a ghost in the machine that Asuka had only 5 minutes with before 3rd Impact. Small wonder Shinji and Asuka only want to consider Misato as Ria's family.
Is Asuka father going to show up or at least be mention. I would like it if Future Asuka had a... better relationship with the man. (mostly because it rarely done in fics and I want to see how younger Asuka reacts to that:lol).
That's still no excuse for fucking your new love in the next room over where your young daughter can hear you through the walls. Leaving aside that many Western marriage vows have some variant of 'in sickness and in health' built into them, in what world would you cheat on your mentally damaged wife with her primary caregiver(don't remember if Asukas' Stepmother was her mothers' nurse or doctor) for all intents and purposes in front of your child?!While I agree that neither her father nor her stepmother behaved especially well, I don't think you can reasonably describe Langley's behaviour as adultery. Even if you consider what came out of Unit-02 after that disastrous activation test to still be Kyoko, not just the wrapper she came in, their marriage was de facto over; it's quite likely she didn't even know who he was anymore.
While I agree that neither her father nor her stepmother behaved especially well, I don't think you can reasonably describe Langley's behaviour as adultery. Even if you consider what came out of Unit-02 after that disastrous activation test to still be Kyoko, not just the wrapper she came in, their marriage was de facto over; it's quite likely she didn't even know who he was anymore.
There's also implications (though considering I think this comes from Asuka's father take it with a grain of salt the size of the moon) that Kyoko herself was neglectful of Asuka before the activation test. Which honestly fits considering Yui was by no stretch a good parent.
Honestly it's surprising Ria had a decent childhood, particularly since Asuka and Shinji both had a near mental breakdown when she was three.
Not as much as we'd prefer if Misato has told Shinji never to talk about 3rd Impact and is still in 'bury and never talk about bad events' mode, as I think was mentioned here. Everybody needs some sort of help, the questions are how much and in what way. And will their younger selves even listen to what Shinji and Asuka have to say. Make no mistake, there needs to be a talk about everyones' problems, the question is whether or not the message would be received as intended or ignored, be it in parts or at all. Asuka knows her younger self is very headstrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if canon!Asuka throws a few curveballs at her older self by getting things wrong or taking them in the wrong way.