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Huh... according to Yoshitoh Asari Shamshel gender is suppose to be female and yet their are going to be jokes about Shamshel's other form.(mostly coming from Asuka probably:lol)
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How do Angels, besides Kaworu, even have Gender to begin with? And if they did how is it any where comparable to human gender?
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Look they are 99.99% similar to humans according to Ritsuko, and the second answer is don't think about it.
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The Angel Sachiel was also a male, again according to Yoshitoh Asari.
As a person who is vaguely familiar with the series, I have no idea who this is. So who is this person you're talking about anyway?
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Yoshitoh Asari was the assistant character designer for the show. He designed many of the Angels including Sachiel, Shamshel, and Zeruel.
Thanks for the information. You really do learn something new every day.
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All this talk of Angel gender practically forced me to find this:
Did he also design the Rebuild variants?
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He did in You Can (Not) Advance.
But the one they are talking to right now is Shamshel.
Ninja Post Edit, sanjo!
You SAW NOTHING!!!!
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Dirtnap
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Reasons in my head Shamshel didn't want to pull out the energy whips: She can't maintain that for long. Think about it, they don't have the reserves of energy to keep it up for a long time.
That's my best guess. So she may not even be able to project an AT field which means that Ikari the elder, if he's not the one overcome by gibbering terror, may get a shot of with the discarded pistol. Or Asuka, because I can see her doing that, Unit 02 does carry an Eva sized Deagle for a back up.
Consequently, silenced pistols really are not loud. I think the Welrod is internally suppressed anyways.
Here's a suppressed FNP .45.
The clang you hear is actually the round hitting the steel target.
That's my best guess. So she may not even be able to project an AT field which means that Ikari the elder, if he's not the one overcome by gibbering terror, may get a shot of with the discarded pistol. Or Asuka, because I can see her doing that, Unit 02 does carry an Eva sized Deagle for a back up.
Consequently, silenced pistols really are not loud. I think the Welrod is internally suppressed anyways.
Here's a suppressed FNP .45.
The clang you hear is actually the round hitting the steel target.
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Chapter 6 Part 1
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Chapter 6: Ballad of the Fourth and Third
"Well?" she said furiously, "Answer the question!"
Before Shinji stood a woman, no, an Angel in human form. In her grasp was his younger self, utterly terrified out of his mind.
Parts of her skin were turning violet. Her free arm was a flailing whip of energy and bone.
The older Shinji was paralyzed with fear. His knees shaking beneath him.
His nightmare had proved far worse than he could have imagined.
"I... I don't know," his counterpart said weakly.
The woman's red eyes bulged.
"LIAR!" she shrieked. "You know, you both know! This was no accident!"
"I don't," he pleaded.
"Let him go!" Asuka shouted.
The Angel's whip lashed out, striking a car near Asuka. The whip cut a blazing line through concrete, metal, plastic and glass. The car itself was sliced in half, it's windows broken and melted.
Asuka let out a terrified cry and dashed towards another car.
The Angel ignored her. It's eyes were glued to the younger Ikari.
"I want the truth!" she demanded. "How did you come here?! What are you planning?!"
A shot rang out and the Angel's knee exploded in a shower of blood, driving it to the ground. It let go of the younger Shinji, who rapidly retreated.
Shinji turned to see the Security agent, propping herself up against the door, pistol in hand.
"This is Agent Reed! We have a priority one situation at my location! All three are in immediate and critical danger! Send... everything," she said into her suit collar.
She fired off two more shots, aimed dead at the Angel's chest.
Only for them to run right into an AT-Field.
"Oh, crap!" Agent Reed exclaimed.
Shamshel rose to her feet, bone and skin seemingly knitting themselves together within her knee, thick steam rising from the healing wound.
The younger Ikari ran as fast as he could, only to stumble and fall, rolling down the garage ramp.
She... It was going to kill his younger self, then Asuka, and then himself.
He couldn't let that happen. He was doomed, but maybe if he distracted it for a few minutes...
"Hey!" he shouted. "I'm the one who killed you!"
The Angel turned, a large, predatory smile spreading across its face.
Shinji about collapsed in terror.
The Angel walked towards him with casual grace, cracking its whip through another car.
"Mister Ikari!" Reed shouted.
Shinji said nothing, simply motioning her to go after the other two. The Agent pulled herself up and went towards Asuka as fast as her damaged body would allow.
"Oh, if only you knew how much I've been looking forward to this." The rage seemingly melted from the Angel's voice, replaced with amusement.
She looked at him like a child might look at an expensive toy.
"What are you?" Shinji demanded.
"Like I said, I am Shamshel, the Sun of God," it said casually. "Surely you must remember me, considering you stabbed me through the Core!"
"You died. You all died!" Shinji screamed. "How are you here?"
The angel laughed, its unchanged hand brushing against Shinji's face. He shuddered.
He wanted to reach out and strangle this abomination.
"You have no idea how long I've waited to see you. The number of times I've pictured what my hands around your throat would look like. What your body would look like with the life drained from it." Brief bits of fury leaked out from her calm demeanor.
Her hand reached for his throat, stopping just as the fingertips touched him.
"But you should rest easy. Sachiel has demanded you and the other true Pilot live. You aren't the problem. It's those abominations you harbor."
Shinji struggled to understand what it was saying. It didn't make sense. Why would any of the Angels, let alone the Third want him and Asuka alive?
Agent Reed silently appeared behind the Angel.
Shamshel let out a strangled cry of surprise, its body going completely rigid before collapsing to the ground. Two metal wires led from its back to a stun gun in Reed's hand.
"Get back, Mister Ikari!" she shouted, pulling out her handgun.
Shinji ran as she unloaded round after round into the Angel's chest. His ears rang from the noise.
The shots fell silent after the third. The sharp scraping sound of something slicing through metal replaced it. A second later something slammed hard into the front window of a nearby sedan, sending bits of shattered glass everywhere.
Shinji looked, forcing himself to look away a moment later when he caught sight of the blood-soaked brown hair.
He froze, terror consuming his thoughts. He turned to see Shamshel throw Reed's now headless body, landing in a mangled heap a few feet in front of him.
Blood was pouring from the the center of the Angel's ruined chest. She stared at him, an unmistakable look of glee in her red eyes.
The floor of the garage started to rumble, tires screeching below them. The backup Reed sent for had arrived.
Shamshel's expression turned sour.
"Wasted my time," it said, before leaping into the air, disappearing into one of the upper levels.
He heard Asuka shout in relief.
Shinji collapsed to his knees. The Angel's retreat brought him no joy, only guilt and terror over what was to come.
/
The news of the attack hit WILLE like a tsunami. One of the best members of security dead, the Pilots and Shinji put in mortal danger.
An Angel in human form.
The Angel had set an ambush. It knew where Shinji and the Pilots would be. Only the Angel's confusing retreat spared them.
The implications of any one of those facts was troubling. Combined it was frankly surprising that Asuka hadn't a heart attack.
She paced as Dr. Sakura Suzuhara checked Shinji's vitals. Physically he seemed fine beyond a few scrapes and bruises. The hollow, desperate look in his eye told Asuka everything she need to know about his emotional state.
"Well you're going to be sore for a couple of days, but otherwise you're going to be okay." Sakura assured him.
"Thank you," Shinji muttered.
Sakura departed.
Asuka crouched so she was at eye level with the sitting Shinji, placing her hand on his leg.
"Listen, I know what you're thinking. You're wrong, this is not your fault at all," she insisted.
Tears trickled down his face.
"A woman is dead," his voice shook with every word. "A woman is dead because she protected me."
"It's not your fault!" Asuka insisted. "And our other selves would have died had you not distracted the Angel."
Shinji shuddered. "I know, I know. Goddamnit, I know! I just... every good I did, we did, it's coming undone. All that's left is my mistakes."
Asuka grabbed his hand. "You saved the world. However badly you screwed up, whatever these Angels are doing does not change that. You have to believe that."
Shinji said nothing, weeping quietly.
"Promise me," Asuka insisted.
"...I promise," he said.
Asuka grabbed him in a hug, as much for herself as for him.
"I'm here for you," she said.
She was on the verge of breaking down herself, this was more than any of them could handle.
Shinji nodded.
"There's more. The Angel, she... she said Sachiel demanded we live. That its war was only with the other two Pilots," he explained.
"And you believed it?" Asuka questioned.
That didn't make sense. Surely if the Angels had some sort of vendetta it would be against the two of them, the people who actually killed them. Why on earth would one of them insist on sparing the two of them?
"It had me dead to rights," he pointed out "It could have killed, but it didn't. It didn't even attempt to. Why?"
Asuka had no answer for that.
/
"Do we believe it?" Ibuki asked.
"Does it matter?" Ritsuko countered.
Misato paced around the conference room, half listening to what everyone is saying.
They had attacked them, they had attacked them when they were completely defenseless.
They weren't just monsters anymore, they had become like the last one, the one that had toyed with Shinji. Monsters wearing a human mask.
It made a certain amount of sense, that the Third Angel had dissolved so quickly, left so little. That's because that wasn't really the Third at all, it was a shell.
"The Third Angel, Sachiel," Misato said suddenly. "If it's anything like this one, it must have fled the scene. What are we doing to track it?"
"I was having people look over the nearby security footage as it was," Maya explained. "Beyond that there's not a lot we can do at this point."
Well, it was something.
" Considering what we know of Metaphysical Biology, I believe we can narrow this down to one of two possibilities," Ritsuko said. "Either the souls of the Angels, through either natural or artificial means, have been reincarnated into human vessels... or these otherwise normal people have been possessed by the Angels."
"Which is worse?" Misato asked.
"Possession by a mile," Asuka jumped in. "Reincarnation means we can no longer trust anyone under twenty, possession means we can't trust anyone, period. Not even ourselves."
"Reincarnation does seem the more likely option in general," Ritsuko added. "Only a few Angels were able infect living and nonliving things. To say nothing of her human-like behavior before the attack."
"It," Misato corrected.
Ritsuko looked at her, puzzled.
"It's not a 'her'. It's an 'it'. There is no need to anthropomorphize these things. They were the enemy, a force that should not exist on this planet anymore."
"Of course, General."
"Shinji's testimony revealed a great deal, assuming the Angel wasn't completely lying," Asuka said.
Thankfully, Shinji remembered what the Angel said vividly.
She went on, "Most important bit of info is the Angel's apparent confusion when it comes to the past Pilots. It was angry, disgusted, and it seemed at a total loss for why they were in this time. It wasted a critical amount of time demanding answers from the younger Shinji that he could not give."
The fact that they were alive only due to the mistakes on the part of the Angel left a bitter taste in Misato's mouth. There was no victory, only blood and loss.
"Which means either the Angels' return is a completely separate event from the pilot's time travelling, or they're connected but not even the Angels know how."
Judging by the sullen faces in the room, no one liked either option.
Maya spoke up, "Our biggest priority needs to be keeping this a secret. We should release a report saying Shinji and the pilots were attacked by Church of Lilith fanatics."
"Why?" Misato questioned. "If we pretend everything is normal that only puts the Pilots at further risk."
"They haven't attacked all at once and Shamshel retreated. If they wanted to just kill the Pilots when they were on their way to school, they could have done so already. They attacked the Pilots when the only other person around was a WILLE agent and fled when more arrived. They want to keep out of the public eye. We can't afford to have them in the public eye." Maya explained.
"Telling the public that everyone born after Third Impact might have the soul of a monster that tried to wipe out all of mankind. Yeah, that would go over poorly," Asuka agreed.
That would be bad. Actually it would be worse than bad. Widespread panic was all but certain. That would bring Japan to it's knees in a single night. Thousands might die.
But letting them go out there, when anyone could be an Angel... that was putting them in danger, each and every day.
Misato yet out a frustrated groan. There really only was one option here.
"Tell the media that the Shinjis and Asuka were attacked by a fanatical branch of the Church of Lilith, resulting in the death of one officer," Misato ordered.
"Now," she went on, "What do we know about this 'Maria Vincennes' and 'Tsukiko Yamagishi'?"
Shinji had mentioned the rather suspect phone call he received shortly before the attack. The evidence was thin but the timing and strange nature of the call, not to mention the Angel's claim of association. It made Misato certain this person was an Angel.
Asuka brought up a picture of the Angel on screen. She looked entirely human. It was even smiling happily in the picture, making Misato all the more livid.
Asuka looked at her notes "Maria Vincennes, age nineteen. Daughter of Sasha and Eric Vincennes. American ex-pat. Moved to Japan seven years ago after the collapse of the New California Republic. Was going to Kyoto University of Art and Design, but stopped showing up a week ago. No signs of unusual behavior."
"What about her, er, its parents?" Maya asked.
Misato wondered. Were the parents aware? Did they spend nearly twenty years living with a monster and not know? How many families were out there right now, carrying for and supporting inhuman monsters without even knowing?
The thought was enraging as much as it was terrifying.
"Went on a trip to the UK a week ago, where they disappeared," Asuka explained. "So probably dead."
Unfortunate but not unexpected.
"As for Yamagishi... Well, for starters there are dozens of families with that name. The only Tsukiko I could find in Kyoto in our age bracket was nine when third impact happened," Asuka said.
So probably a fake name, lovely.
"Our top priority remains getting the Vault upgraded to handle Unit-01 and Unit-02," Misato announced. "But we have to expand our efforts. We need more security, both for WILLE and the Pilots. What happened in the garage cannot happen again. We need to find these Angels, figure out how to weed out those who haven't revealed themselves yet, and track down the ones that have already attacked us. I want a name and face on Sachiel. I want to drop a missile on the bastard's head before it can attack us again."
Everyone looked grim, terrified and uncertain.
"Look," Misato sighed, "I won't pretend this isn't pretty much the worst case situation. The enemy is wearing a human face. They can be anyone and anywhere. Even people we know. But the enemy has blundered twice, and those blunders have given us a chance to beat them. There is no SEELE to worry about. The only enemy we have are the Angels. Fourth Impact is impossible. There is no Adam. Whatever plans the Angels have, they will fail. On that I give you my word."
"Well?" she said furiously, "Answer the question!"
Before Shinji stood a woman, no, an Angel in human form. In her grasp was his younger self, utterly terrified out of his mind.
Parts of her skin were turning violet. Her free arm was a flailing whip of energy and bone.
The older Shinji was paralyzed with fear. His knees shaking beneath him.
His nightmare had proved far worse than he could have imagined.
"I... I don't know," his counterpart said weakly.
The woman's red eyes bulged.
"LIAR!" she shrieked. "You know, you both know! This was no accident!"
"I don't," he pleaded.
"Let him go!" Asuka shouted.
The Angel's whip lashed out, striking a car near Asuka. The whip cut a blazing line through concrete, metal, plastic and glass. The car itself was sliced in half, it's windows broken and melted.
Asuka let out a terrified cry and dashed towards another car.
The Angel ignored her. It's eyes were glued to the younger Ikari.
"I want the truth!" she demanded. "How did you come here?! What are you planning?!"
A shot rang out and the Angel's knee exploded in a shower of blood, driving it to the ground. It let go of the younger Shinji, who rapidly retreated.
Shinji turned to see the Security agent, propping herself up against the door, pistol in hand.
"This is Agent Reed! We have a priority one situation at my location! All three are in immediate and critical danger! Send... everything," she said into her suit collar.
She fired off two more shots, aimed dead at the Angel's chest.
Only for them to run right into an AT-Field.
"Oh, crap!" Agent Reed exclaimed.
Shamshel rose to her feet, bone and skin seemingly knitting themselves together within her knee, thick steam rising from the healing wound.
The younger Ikari ran as fast as he could, only to stumble and fall, rolling down the garage ramp.
She... It was going to kill his younger self, then Asuka, and then himself.
He couldn't let that happen. He was doomed, but maybe if he distracted it for a few minutes...
"Hey!" he shouted. "I'm the one who killed you!"
The Angel turned, a large, predatory smile spreading across its face.
Shinji about collapsed in terror.
The Angel walked towards him with casual grace, cracking its whip through another car.
"Mister Ikari!" Reed shouted.
Shinji said nothing, simply motioning her to go after the other two. The Agent pulled herself up and went towards Asuka as fast as her damaged body would allow.
"Oh, if only you knew how much I've been looking forward to this." The rage seemingly melted from the Angel's voice, replaced with amusement.
She looked at him like a child might look at an expensive toy.
"What are you?" Shinji demanded.
"Like I said, I am Shamshel, the Sun of God," it said casually. "Surely you must remember me, considering you stabbed me through the Core!"
"You died. You all died!" Shinji screamed. "How are you here?"
The angel laughed, its unchanged hand brushing against Shinji's face. He shuddered.
He wanted to reach out and strangle this abomination.
"You have no idea how long I've waited to see you. The number of times I've pictured what my hands around your throat would look like. What your body would look like with the life drained from it." Brief bits of fury leaked out from her calm demeanor.
Her hand reached for his throat, stopping just as the fingertips touched him.
"But you should rest easy. Sachiel has demanded you and the other true Pilot live. You aren't the problem. It's those abominations you harbor."
Shinji struggled to understand what it was saying. It didn't make sense. Why would any of the Angels, let alone the Third want him and Asuka alive?
Agent Reed silently appeared behind the Angel.
Shamshel let out a strangled cry of surprise, its body going completely rigid before collapsing to the ground. Two metal wires led from its back to a stun gun in Reed's hand.
"Get back, Mister Ikari!" she shouted, pulling out her handgun.
Shinji ran as she unloaded round after round into the Angel's chest. His ears rang from the noise.
The shots fell silent after the third. The sharp scraping sound of something slicing through metal replaced it. A second later something slammed hard into the front window of a nearby sedan, sending bits of shattered glass everywhere.
Shinji looked, forcing himself to look away a moment later when he caught sight of the blood-soaked brown hair.
He froze, terror consuming his thoughts. He turned to see Shamshel throw Reed's now headless body, landing in a mangled heap a few feet in front of him.
Blood was pouring from the the center of the Angel's ruined chest. She stared at him, an unmistakable look of glee in her red eyes.
The floor of the garage started to rumble, tires screeching below them. The backup Reed sent for had arrived.
Shamshel's expression turned sour.
"Wasted my time," it said, before leaping into the air, disappearing into one of the upper levels.
He heard Asuka shout in relief.
Shinji collapsed to his knees. The Angel's retreat brought him no joy, only guilt and terror over what was to come.
/
The news of the attack hit WILLE like a tsunami. One of the best members of security dead, the Pilots and Shinji put in mortal danger.
An Angel in human form.
The Angel had set an ambush. It knew where Shinji and the Pilots would be. Only the Angel's confusing retreat spared them.
The implications of any one of those facts was troubling. Combined it was frankly surprising that Asuka hadn't a heart attack.
She paced as Dr. Sakura Suzuhara checked Shinji's vitals. Physically he seemed fine beyond a few scrapes and bruises. The hollow, desperate look in his eye told Asuka everything she need to know about his emotional state.
"Well you're going to be sore for a couple of days, but otherwise you're going to be okay." Sakura assured him.
"Thank you," Shinji muttered.
Sakura departed.
Asuka crouched so she was at eye level with the sitting Shinji, placing her hand on his leg.
"Listen, I know what you're thinking. You're wrong, this is not your fault at all," she insisted.
Tears trickled down his face.
"A woman is dead," his voice shook with every word. "A woman is dead because she protected me."
"It's not your fault!" Asuka insisted. "And our other selves would have died had you not distracted the Angel."
Shinji shuddered. "I know, I know. Goddamnit, I know! I just... every good I did, we did, it's coming undone. All that's left is my mistakes."
Asuka grabbed his hand. "You saved the world. However badly you screwed up, whatever these Angels are doing does not change that. You have to believe that."
Shinji said nothing, weeping quietly.
"Promise me," Asuka insisted.
"...I promise," he said.
Asuka grabbed him in a hug, as much for herself as for him.
"I'm here for you," she said.
She was on the verge of breaking down herself, this was more than any of them could handle.
Shinji nodded.
"There's more. The Angel, she... she said Sachiel demanded we live. That its war was only with the other two Pilots," he explained.
"And you believed it?" Asuka questioned.
That didn't make sense. Surely if the Angels had some sort of vendetta it would be against the two of them, the people who actually killed them. Why on earth would one of them insist on sparing the two of them?
"It had me dead to rights," he pointed out "It could have killed, but it didn't. It didn't even attempt to. Why?"
Asuka had no answer for that.
/
"Do we believe it?" Ibuki asked.
"Does it matter?" Ritsuko countered.
Misato paced around the conference room, half listening to what everyone is saying.
They had attacked them, they had attacked them when they were completely defenseless.
They weren't just monsters anymore, they had become like the last one, the one that had toyed with Shinji. Monsters wearing a human mask.
It made a certain amount of sense, that the Third Angel had dissolved so quickly, left so little. That's because that wasn't really the Third at all, it was a shell.
"The Third Angel, Sachiel," Misato said suddenly. "If it's anything like this one, it must have fled the scene. What are we doing to track it?"
"I was having people look over the nearby security footage as it was," Maya explained. "Beyond that there's not a lot we can do at this point."
Well, it was something.
" Considering what we know of Metaphysical Biology, I believe we can narrow this down to one of two possibilities," Ritsuko said. "Either the souls of the Angels, through either natural or artificial means, have been reincarnated into human vessels... or these otherwise normal people have been possessed by the Angels."
"Which is worse?" Misato asked.
"Possession by a mile," Asuka jumped in. "Reincarnation means we can no longer trust anyone under twenty, possession means we can't trust anyone, period. Not even ourselves."
"Reincarnation does seem the more likely option in general," Ritsuko added. "Only a few Angels were able infect living and nonliving things. To say nothing of her human-like behavior before the attack."
"It," Misato corrected.
Ritsuko looked at her, puzzled.
"It's not a 'her'. It's an 'it'. There is no need to anthropomorphize these things. They were the enemy, a force that should not exist on this planet anymore."
"Of course, General."
"Shinji's testimony revealed a great deal, assuming the Angel wasn't completely lying," Asuka said.
Thankfully, Shinji remembered what the Angel said vividly.
She went on, "Most important bit of info is the Angel's apparent confusion when it comes to the past Pilots. It was angry, disgusted, and it seemed at a total loss for why they were in this time. It wasted a critical amount of time demanding answers from the younger Shinji that he could not give."
The fact that they were alive only due to the mistakes on the part of the Angel left a bitter taste in Misato's mouth. There was no victory, only blood and loss.
"Which means either the Angels' return is a completely separate event from the pilot's time travelling, or they're connected but not even the Angels know how."
Judging by the sullen faces in the room, no one liked either option.
Maya spoke up, "Our biggest priority needs to be keeping this a secret. We should release a report saying Shinji and the pilots were attacked by Church of Lilith fanatics."
"Why?" Misato questioned. "If we pretend everything is normal that only puts the Pilots at further risk."
"They haven't attacked all at once and Shamshel retreated. If they wanted to just kill the Pilots when they were on their way to school, they could have done so already. They attacked the Pilots when the only other person around was a WILLE agent and fled when more arrived. They want to keep out of the public eye. We can't afford to have them in the public eye." Maya explained.
"Telling the public that everyone born after Third Impact might have the soul of a monster that tried to wipe out all of mankind. Yeah, that would go over poorly," Asuka agreed.
That would be bad. Actually it would be worse than bad. Widespread panic was all but certain. That would bring Japan to it's knees in a single night. Thousands might die.
But letting them go out there, when anyone could be an Angel... that was putting them in danger, each and every day.
Misato yet out a frustrated groan. There really only was one option here.
"Tell the media that the Shinjis and Asuka were attacked by a fanatical branch of the Church of Lilith, resulting in the death of one officer," Misato ordered.
"Now," she went on, "What do we know about this 'Maria Vincennes' and 'Tsukiko Yamagishi'?"
Shinji had mentioned the rather suspect phone call he received shortly before the attack. The evidence was thin but the timing and strange nature of the call, not to mention the Angel's claim of association. It made Misato certain this person was an Angel.
Asuka brought up a picture of the Angel on screen. She looked entirely human. It was even smiling happily in the picture, making Misato all the more livid.
Asuka looked at her notes "Maria Vincennes, age nineteen. Daughter of Sasha and Eric Vincennes. American ex-pat. Moved to Japan seven years ago after the collapse of the New California Republic. Was going to Kyoto University of Art and Design, but stopped showing up a week ago. No signs of unusual behavior."
"What about her, er, its parents?" Maya asked.
Misato wondered. Were the parents aware? Did they spend nearly twenty years living with a monster and not know? How many families were out there right now, carrying for and supporting inhuman monsters without even knowing?
The thought was enraging as much as it was terrifying.
"Went on a trip to the UK a week ago, where they disappeared," Asuka explained. "So probably dead."
Unfortunate but not unexpected.
"As for Yamagishi... Well, for starters there are dozens of families with that name. The only Tsukiko I could find in Kyoto in our age bracket was nine when third impact happened," Asuka said.
So probably a fake name, lovely.
"Our top priority remains getting the Vault upgraded to handle Unit-01 and Unit-02," Misato announced. "But we have to expand our efforts. We need more security, both for WILLE and the Pilots. What happened in the garage cannot happen again. We need to find these Angels, figure out how to weed out those who haven't revealed themselves yet, and track down the ones that have already attacked us. I want a name and face on Sachiel. I want to drop a missile on the bastard's head before it can attack us again."
Everyone looked grim, terrified and uncertain.
"Look," Misato sighed, "I won't pretend this isn't pretty much the worst case situation. The enemy is wearing a human face. They can be anyone and anywhere. Even people we know. But the enemy has blundered twice, and those blunders have given us a chance to beat them. There is no SEELE to worry about. The only enemy we have are the Angels. Fourth Impact is impossible. There is no Adam. Whatever plans the Angels have, they will fail. On that I give you my word."
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You know I kind of remember another fic with the Angels mysteriously reappearing in human bodies decades after the series... there was even a child of Shinji and Asuka and after a while it came out
she was an angel all along and had tried to delay the second war until her parents died
So the Angels themselves have no idea what the hell is going on, eh? Makes this section seem all of the more relevant:
...Are they sure they got all of SELLE, because that seems like a good place to start to see if the Angels have human allies, even if it is just people wanting to stir up anti-WILLE feelings, or leftover moles. 'Cause old Shammie got the appointment info somehow, and this snippet demonstrates she has allies, if I'm not reading it wrong.
So, in order to change the subject to happier things, the question I'm opening to speculation is this: Will Older!Shinji and Asuka get back together in the course of helping(and trying to hook up) their younger selves?
Meaning that either 1 of three things is going down: either all of the Angels know each others human forms and can communicate with each other, the Angels have allies who don't know who they are, or the Angels have allies who know who they are that help them anyway. I do not envy WILLE in the slightest right now.
...Are they sure they got all of SELLE, because that seems like a good place to start to see if the Angels have human allies, even if it is just people wanting to stir up anti-WILLE feelings, or leftover moles. 'Cause old Shammie got the appointment info somehow, and this snippet demonstrates she has allies, if I'm not reading it wrong.
I know of the fic you speak of. It was also by this author, but it got seemingly dropped. I really hope what's mentioned in the spoiler's not the case in this fanfic, but I can see the case you can make for it.
So, in order to change the subject to happier things, the question I'm opening to speculation is this: Will Older!Shinji and Asuka get back together in the course of helping(and trying to hook up) their younger selves?
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Broken Wings is a remake of Cuckoo Bird, though with heavy heavy changes, so don't assume anything that happened in Cuckoo is going to happen to here.
I though it used elements from that. My comment was that I hoped that the plot twist that was spoiler-ed by @Walkin' Man wasn't going to happen. Though I already said I could see the parallels. Part of me suspects that Kodama the younger might an Angel, but why would Sachiel want the pilots of this timeline to live and put the canon!Shinji and Asuka on the chopping block if he didn't have a connection to the older pilots in the first place? Which worries me.
I also wonder if the younger pilots may have kept something back from the adults, or at least Shinji, because Shammie seemed to ignore Asuka(which has to piss her off on some level). Obvious stuff aside as to why the 4th would focus on her killer, while we know the adults are keeping secrets, who's to say the kids aren't doing the same? Either way, there are far too many mysteries to shine light on, and we don't have anywhere enough pieces of the puzzle to start making guesses yet as to what is going on.
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So I guess by that statement, Sachiel is mostly likely the De Facto leader of the Angels.
Um Misato you do know that the Angel are HUMAN BEINGS and have always been so. They are basically Humanity cousins.
Careful Misato, It isn't wise to tempt fate.
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Misato has an incredibly deep hatred for Angels, recent events having done little to temper her, if anything they've only made it worse. She doesn't see them as human.
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Shoulder Puppy
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It came across as less that she doesn't see them as human, but that she
Neepa
Always pondering story possibilities
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A quick question:
Are you now completely honed in on the time travel explanation?
As it's the only explanation you let your characters consider it seems like it.
But as far as the story has progressed another explanation would make a bit more sense to it.
With time travel we would have more or less two sets of exactly the same persons at the same point of time.
Don't you think the Angels would be able to see that when this situation would occur? Well that depends on them being who they were in the first place and not being a cheap synthetic copy.
In the end I'm simply making the logical objection, that when both sets are exactly the same pair or people, the Angels should treat them as being exactly the same.
By that they wouldn't differ between the young and old so it doesn't matter in the end who is when.
As it seems a third power is at work here. This power would have to be something more extrauniversal to this timeline to ROB around here by throwing people around.
And when even the Angels aren't knowing shit of what the hell is going on (I added Kaworu to that) we could assume this timeline is going to taste the water of a purification plant soon.
Other neat idea: Are the young Pilots the people we believe they are and was their home how they said it was? Or is that simply a made up story?
Sincerely your ever sceptical logical reader Teen....
Are you now completely honed in on the time travel explanation?
As it's the only explanation you let your characters consider it seems like it.
But as far as the story has progressed another explanation would make a bit more sense to it.
With time travel we would have more or less two sets of exactly the same persons at the same point of time.
Don't you think the Angels would be able to see that when this situation would occur? Well that depends on them being who they were in the first place and not being a cheap synthetic copy.
In the end I'm simply making the logical objection, that when both sets are exactly the same pair or people, the Angels should treat them as being exactly the same.
By that they wouldn't differ between the young and old so it doesn't matter in the end who is when.
As it seems a third power is at work here. This power would have to be something more extrauniversal to this timeline to ROB around here by throwing people around.
And when even the Angels aren't knowing shit of what the hell is going on (I added Kaworu to that) we could assume this timeline is going to taste the water of a purification plant soon.
Other neat idea: Are the young Pilots the people we believe they are and was their home how they said it was? Or is that simply a made up story?
Sincerely your ever sceptical logical reader Teen....