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Blue Steel 2199: Arpeggio of Blue Steel/Space Battleship Yamato 2199 Crossover

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Kiyone4ever said:
The Hollywood edition is being done overseas, so it's possible to make it concurrently. Skydance Productions will take charge of production this summer. After sending out Mission Impossible Rogue Nation and Terminator Genysis, they'll start on the script immediately, and it's planned to be completed within this year. Anyway, Director Christopher McQuarrie is quite a deep Yamato fan. He says he's been nursing the idea for 35 years, so it shouldn't take much time to complete the script.

Glad the director is a Yamato fan but the mention of Skydance's involvement does not fill me with confidence. Especially mentioning the latest MI film and Terminator Genysis both. The Mission Impossible movies are exciting and if the first one didn't spit in the face of all of the fans of the series, I'd probably enjoy this franchise (Cruise MI) even if it completely misses the essence and soul of the classic series. Terminator Genysis managed to completely twist the heart and soul out of what made the first two Terminator movies great.

So I am confident Hollywood will give us an exciting movie. But will it have the soul of Yamato? In an era where the latest Star Trek movie was sent back for script revision because it was "Too Star Trekky", color me worried.
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Given this comment you also can take it to mean that the plot may focus more on the characters rather then the setting.
 
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RogueKnight said:
Given this comment you also can take it to mean that the plot may focus more on the characters rather then the setting.
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I fervently hope so. It's a double edged sword and I will readily admit the last Trek film: Into Darkness was probably too anxious to trot out all the Trek call outs. but as the Mission Impossible films have shown, sometimes the product becomes an "In Name Only"
 
ecs05norway said:
hmmmmm. interesting. three or four more projects, you say?

reminds me of the old rumor that Captain Harlock was originally supposed to be Mamoru Kodai. who'd succeeded in seizing the prison ship and escaped to take up piracy....
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That wasn't rumour. From the 39 episodes originally planned (there were initially 51 outlined, but broadcaster Yomiyuri would only commit to 39), Mamoru/Harlock was part of the storyline right up until the order came from Yomiyuri to cut the show to 26 episodes.

Read the 39-episode outline here

You may also be interested in the entire series of articles on the history of the original production here (the last part includes further examples of how Harlock was woven into the storyline to the point he appeared in three different manga adaptations of the original series that were being released during broadcast, including one by Leiji Matsumoto himself).
 
Kiyone4ever said:
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I fervently hope so. It's a double edged sword and I will readily admit the last Trek film: Into Darkness was probably too anxious to trot out all the Trek call outs. but as the Mission Impossible films have shown, sometimes the product becomes an "In Name Only"
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Not only that, but Into Darkness was supposed to be about over-militarization.
Most of the deleted scenes were good scenes that would have made that point a bit more clear. They never made the movie, and were intentionally cut.

"Too Trek" indeed. :mad:
 
TheBleachDoctor said:
Not only that, but Into Darkness was supposed to be about over-militarization.
Most of the deleted scenes were good scenes that would have made that point a bit more clear. They never made the movie, and were intentionally cut.

"Too Trek" indeed. :mad:
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Well, for me, Star Trek pretty much ended with DS9, Voyager I could still tolerate and mostly accept as canon, but Enterprise and New Trek? As far as I am concerned those never happened (other than "In a Mirror, darkly I&II").

If they don't want to show a utopian, hopeful universe, then they should invent something new instead of working on making something that was utopian into a dystopia.
 
Shaithan said:
Well, for me, Star Trek pretty much ended with DS9, Voyager I could still tolerate and mostly accept as canon, but Enterprise and New Trek? As far as I am concerned those never happened (other than "In a Mirror, darkly I&II").

If they don't want to show a utopian, hopeful universe, then they should invent something new instead of working on making something that was utopian into a dystopia.
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To be fair, Enterprise wasn't all that bad normally, but whenever those Temporal Cold War episodes got forced in... eehh....
 
Kiyone4ever said:
If the Fourth Season had taken place in the first year or maybe the second. Time Travel arcs did NOT help.
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I liked TOS time travel. I liked TNG and DS9 time travel. Voyager kind of overdid it at times but it had a few wacky episodes that was nice.
Enterprise.... ugh.
According to the production team, the higher-ups kept forcing the time travel arcs into the story. That's why it's so disjointed and disconnected from everything else.
 
On that Shinano pic.

Okay they make her into some sort of Carrier Battleship the question is why when the Yamato already sports the ability to carry fighters. They don't need to make a third Yamato Class ship into a carrier like the original or is that why they went with a hybrid design.
 
deathzealotzero said:
On that Shinano pic.

Okay they make her into some sort of Carrier Battleship the question is why when the Yamato already sports the ability to carry fighters. They don't need to make a third Yamato Class ship into a carrier like the original or is that why they went with a hybrid design.
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Presumably the Shinano can hold and launch more fighters than the Yamato.
 
deathzealotzero said:
On that Shinano pic.

Okay they make her into some sort of Carrier Battleship the question is why when the Yamato already sports the ability to carry fighters. They don't need to make a third Yamato Class ship into a carrier like the original or is that why they went with a hybrid design.
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I have to wonder if the show is taking it's cues from the construction of the real life Shinano. According to the Wikipedia entry the Shinano was initially a battleship then converted into a support carrier. The Rebirth Shinano looks lightly armored at the very least.
 
the advent of Wave Force energy shields presumably makes armor a bit secondary- particularly in a Carrier, whose job is to sit way the hell away from the actual fighting and service Aerospace fighters.

of course, in this crossover, you also have potential access to Klein Fields, and assuming the two forms of energy shielding aren't mutually exclusive, that could mean a deceptive toughness despite looking fragile.
also, I can't quite tell due to small picture size, but it looks an awful lot like it's sporting two large turrets of some kind in line with the bridge tower on that upper level- and it appears to have moved the bulk of the air-defense battery to the fore deck in place of the Fore Main Turret. she also seems to sport additional missile armament in port-and-starbord batteries at the fore of her After superstructure, along with additional air-defense guns.

nnnot really sure what the blister at the very foremost part of her Fore deck is for, but may be fire-control of some kind- or possibly support equipment for the Wave-motion gun? no clue.

anyway, depending on its available parasite craft (the image appears to depict some sort of corvette docking in the superstructure) that refit may actually be a more formidable opponent than yamato itself, since missiles are plenty effective against Gamilas and (presumably) Gatlantian ships as they seem to favor fighters for point-defense rather than having dedicated anti-missile weapons like Earth ships.
 
Mechanis said:
and (presumably) Gatlantian ships as they seem to favor fighters for point-defense rather than having dedicated anti-missile weapons like Earth ships.
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Oh you haven't seen Odyssey of the Celestial Ark then.

Here are the translated mecha pages for OotCA.
http://ourstarblazers.com/vault/arkmecha/

All Gatlantean ships so far have AA turrets, either single-barreled or 8-barreled roundels. In addition, their main turrets also seem to be used for anti-missile duty as well. One notable example has a Gatlantean Kukulkan-class destroyer completely intercept a barrage from the Yamato's aft torpedo launchers. A Lascaux-class cruiser also intercepts about half of the missile fired from the smokestack missile launcher. In the climax battle, a Kukulkan intercepts some torpedoes with its own anti-matter torpedoes.

As for the Gamilons, you're mostly right. However, the Gaiderol and Haizerad have single and quad-barreled AA guns while the Gelvades has a total of 32 AA guns on its retractable upper deck batteries. The Deusura II also has some quad-barreled AA guns near the bridge. I also assume the Kripitera-class destroyers are also capable of using their aft dual-mount rapid-fire turret as AA. The missile launchers on the Kripitera and Kelkapia, and possibly even the torpedo launchers seen on practically every Gamilon ship probably can double as interception missiles too.
 
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true enough- even the yamato doesn't technically have dedicated AMS, it's just that hitting a fast-moving aerospace fighter and hitting a fast-moving Anticapital missile require pretty much the same tolerances :p

honestly, the thing I want to see more of is the D-sub, but then I have an unholy love for Romanticized Submarine Warfare.
and I also love Wolf Frakken, who is an unrepentant unmitigated badass in 2199.
 
Mechanis said:
true enough- even the yamato doesn't technically have dedicated AMS, it's just that hitting a fast-moving aerospace fighter and hitting a fast-moving Anticapital missile require pretty much the same tolerances :p

honestly, the thing I want to see more of is the D-sub, but then I have an unholy love for Romanticized Submarine Warfare.
and I also love Wolf Frakken, who is an unrepentant unmitigated badass in 2199.
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Then you should enjoy it when Zordan Stark and Wolf Frakken face off.
 
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