Blood of the Gods: A Fantasy CKII Quest

Source? Not sure I remember seeing this...
Have to do as in the expected duty of a Pharaoh. When we get the power, we get the responsibility to do this kind of stuff that the council is currently overseeing.

What 'rep' is that, and how have we established it? We're still a daughter born of a foreign-born magician -- as useful as our mother may be in the future, she is also a major weakness in terms of developing our Authority and legitimacy of ruling as Pharaoh. Cavalier has clearly indicated that our primary challenge here in the Prologue is securing our power base to end the Regency. That is our immediate goal; everything else, for the moment at least, must be secondary. That means we should not be visibly relying our our mother (for magical training, spycraft, etc.) until after we've secured our own right to rule. Even after that, it'd still need to be a careful balancing act to make sure we don't lose ground.
The fact that we literally had flowers blooming where we walked, got the Apis bull and the favour of Hathor and we are hopefully voting in building a temple should increase our reputation as a divinely blessed monarch.

I mentioned before: I really don't think "public rep" matters as much as you think. We do have the favor of the gods (at the moment), and we may be popular with the masses, but we're still very young, still very female, and still the child of a foreign-born magician. Strengthening the legitimacy of our rule is a long-term process -- it won't be solved in a single turn, no matter how well we roll.
Alright, then what kind of reputation matters? I'm saying that we have a large boost there, so we can lay off that for a bit to learn magic, and we need not do that openly. It could simply be passed off as us spending time with our biological mom.
 
[X] Hear Petitions at Court
...I am entirely willing to replace this action if someone persuades me, however
I have to admit, when I said I'd be willing to replace this if someone persuaded me, I didn't expect that "someone" to be @Cavalier himself.
Government of Kemet
L'etat c'est moi – and these hundred thousand other people
My take on this data-dump is that (1) the Pharaoh is not an absolute monarch in the 'King Louis the Sun-King' sense of ruling directly, but much more like a feudal monarch (or any ancient-era ruler, which we are...) in that power is wielded indirectly through the nobility, and that (2) the most secure form of indirect rule is through nobles and officials that the Pharaoh is able to trust.

That means, that one of our biggest priorities early on is cultivating the nobles and officials that we will be able to rely on in the future.

Such as -- oh, I don't know -- our three childhood friends?
Bakenptah, son of Ipy
Friend
Age: 16 years

Bakenptah is a companion of your childhood and remains a friend though you see him less and less often as your duties as Queen pick up. He clearly inherited the strength of his father but has a gentle and thoughtful disposition. He's easy for you to prank, but he was a real pain to beat when playing the foreign game. You like and trust him and that may make him useful later on.
Bakenptah is the son of our Royal Treasurer, the "too honest" Ipy. He's personally strong, but will most likely wind up in the civil service like his father. "Easy to prank" means low Intrigue, but "a real pain to beat" means probably as smart or smarter than us (high Learning and/or Stewardship).

Paneferer, son of Herenamenpenaef
Friend
Age: 14 years

Paneferer was another companion of your childhood and a present friend. He is much more aggressive and hard-charging than his father, though both men are pretty charming. Paneferer was the member of the party most like you, and inclined to go out and make things happen. He dominated the games of soldier and bandit despite the sheer strength of the older Bakenptah.
Paneferer is the son of our Inspector of Works, the "placid" but witty Herenamenpenaef. It sounds very much like he will go on to be a soldier -- so we might recruit him for our Horus Guard, or position him within the regular army as an eventual replacement for Khui. Lots of potential in how we deal with him.

Tayuheret, daughter of Meryawy
Friend
Age: 15 years

Tayuheret was the final companion of your childhood, and your closest friend. As the only other girl your age you both faced the same trials around the same age and had to deal with a male-dominated environment. Whereas you are assertive and confident she is somewhat shy and introverted, but like her father she is pious and studious. Having her as a foil and confidant has helped you deal with the stresses of your position.
Tayuheret is the daughter of our priestly royal tutor and potential mentor, Meryawy. I have no idea what options are even available for a priest's daughter who is also the confidant of a female Pharaoh -- we are building a new temple to Hathor-Sekhmet, so is there a caste of female priestesses she might qualify to become...? -- but failing all else, we can always appoint her as our Royal Handmaiden.

At any rate, all of these future plans would require us to cultivate those relationships here and now. That being the case, I am very much inclined to add
[ ] Spend time with your friends outside court
...as our fourth action this turn, replacing "Hear petitions at Court." Are there any objections to this change?
 
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How about some Investigate actions first? Gathering dirt on courtiers is a way to get more vectors of control over them, and we can discern some of their motivations/ambition should we succeed.

I mean, the main focus of this turn is mentor choosing, so investigating some seemingly shady characters could clarify a lot of stuff and give us impartial knowledge on the mentor selection.
 
How about some Investigate actions first? Gathering dirt on courtiers is a way to get more vectors of control over them, and we can discern some of their motivations/ambition should we succeed.

I mean, the main focus of this turn is mentor choosing, so investigating some seemingly shady characters could clarify a lot of stuff and give us impartial knowledge on the mentor selection.

1. You didn't vote for my Plan. (I'm mainly looking for feedback from those who liked/voted for my original plan...)

2. The only difference between your Plan and mine is that you have us "Investigate Khui". I'd like to keep some difference between the two of us.

3. As for substantive disagreement: I don't think it's worth our while to investigate Khui at this point. He's still relatively new to the position, there are other power blocs in place, and as ambitious as he may be, it takes time to set up a proper coup attempt. He'd need to consolidate control of the army, gain the cooperation of another faction within the Palace, etc. Even assuming he's started on all that, I can't imagine he'd be far enough alone where it'd show up to an investigation.

4. Investigating Khui does little to help us pick a mentor.

As you mention, our main focus this turn is choosing a mentor. However: that's not going to be Khui anyway. That's pretty much a given, based on the dangers pointed out by Cetashwayo (and Cavalier himself) about a strong general founding a new dynasty.

We could investigate someone else -- the eunuch Ptahshepses, perhaps -- but even that might backfire given that Ptahshepses runs his own network of informants. I guess it's worth asking: what's the DC for 'investigate'? What are our odds of succeeding? Our "informants network" is still only the one maid at the moment, and however good we are at Intrigue, we're sorely outclassed by some of the others in the Palace. I wish we could ask our mother Satysis or our tutor Ma'atneferure to investigate on our behalf, but that's a no-go until we hear back from @Cavalier.

5. It's true we should gather dirt on our courtiers. But the idea behind my change would be a proactive effort to cultivate officials we can trust, versus a reactive effort to undercut officials we do not or cannot trust. It's much easier/safer to work with (and delegate authority to) a friend, than it is to do any of that with someone you're blackmailing for support.
 
A few other comments on Cavalier's latest 'Factfile':
The Pharaoh's divine authority is delegated to his servants, and his servants are rarely pleased to give up this authority in any matter.
So either Pharaoh's servants aren't particularly concerned by his divine authority, or they don't really acknowledge it at all. Sounds increasingly like a feudal chain of command, either way, which doesn't surprise me. We're going to have our hands full dealing with 'soft power', retail politics, and the fine art of not giving orders that we know won't be obeyed....

As for the positions:
The most prestigious and powerful position on the Royal Council is that of Vizier. The Pharaoh's Vizier is his shadow, his most trusted agent who has full authority to act as his proxy in all matters.
Lot of essential info here, especially:
The all-powerful Vizier also serves as a useful scapegoat when matters go badly; the archetype of the dishonest ministers deceiving the benevolent Pharaoh is established in Kemet, and the Vizier makes an obvious focus for such sentiment.
Based on this description, I'm actually wondering if we could play this straight with the eunuch Ptahshepses. That is, we'd tell him upfront that we'd be interested in appointing him to serve as our Vizier once the Regency is ended; BUT that to secure the realm and our right to rule, we'd need to make him the fall-guy for any significant failures of our reign. Indicate the near-certainty that we'd eventually need to dismiss him from the position, but that we'd let him retain his current post as head of the eunuchs, and would probably let him hand-pick & train his successor for when that day comes. (We'd also mention that it'd be best if said successor belonged to one of the other factions).

Thoughts?

Next in prestige is the position of the Keeper of the Royal Seal.
Like Vizier, this position is unfilled until the Regency is ended. Key points:
Because the Royal Seal is needed to authorize all bureaucratic acts originating from the palace, the Keeper's political role is that of a censor. He checks the acts of other officials to make sure they conform to law and the Pharaoh's will.
Clearly, this person needs to be someone we absolutely and implicitly trust. On the other hand:
Typically the Keeper comes from a powerful noble family of the Delta Province, the most populous and wealthy of the provinces of Kemet.
Of our current Royal Council, the only two identified as coming from Delta Province are the eunuch Ptahshepses and the general Khui. Ptahshepses might be possible, but Khui is a nope nope nope.

The Chief Royal Scribe sits on the Royal Council as the official Secretary at meetings as well as a representative of the Corps of Scribes. He is the head of the Corps and as such responsible for the recruitment and training of scribes for other government departments. The Chief Royal Scribe also handles all of the Pharaoh's correspondence, providing advice and knowledge regarding styles of address and protocol.
...This makes it sound like we should have already met & worked with Wenamun before now. Or has Neferet taken care of all of it? I still find it odd we wouldn't have dealt with any correspondence, or even received any training in how to deal with such correspondence at this point.



The Royal Treasury holds the gold and valuables of the Pharaoh and exercises oversight of mines, craftsmen, and tax collection. Easy access to wealth usually makes the Treasury prone to corruption and a center of low-level waste and inefficiency, corralled only by the active and energetic oversight of its leadership.
Holy crap we're lucky that Ipy is so notoriously incorruptible. Seriously, as many problems as our Dad gave us re: the army (and the corrupt granaries), give him full credit for appointing a Royal Treasurer who does the job right.
The state would be unable to function without the services the Treasury provides in accumulating the surplus production of the land. It is the most hated institution in Kemet despite (or rather, because of) this vital role.
This explains our maid's "I wish he weren't so honest" comment. Though that makes me realize that our informant is apparently corrupt and upset that she can't get away with it....


Eunuchs have a reputation for corruption and treachery but their lack of natural allies tends to give the Pharaoh a much tighter grip on them; and the Chief Eunuch, who administers all the other eunuchs, may aim to become a trusted advisor or even Vizier.
Excellent; "no natural allies" means their best ally is ourselves. Oddly, the worse their reputation, the better for us -- they rely on us more, and we can scapegoat them more effectively.

On the other hand! There was that very concerning bit about Khui being in love with a eunuch. If so, then that 'no natural allies' thing doesn't quite apply -- a conspiracy between the army and the eunuch corp would be a disaster.


The Royal Steward, the Royal Chamberlain, the Royal Handmaiden, the Royal Cupbearer, and the Royal Charioteer are all offices of considerable honor and little duty.
No ideas for steward, chamberlain, and cupberarer, but the best fit for Royal Handmaiden would be our friend Tayuheret. If our Martial training continues to go well, we might consider Ramessu for 'Royal Charioteer'. Note especially:
The offices may be filled with powerful nobles as a bribe, or they may be given to trusted friends and confidents of the Pharaoh. The Pharaoh may assign them additional duties as he sees fit, though there is the potential for their unofficial authority vested in the Pharaoh's confidence to collide with the official authority vested in one of the Great Offices. Senior bureaucrats often resent amateur favorites of the monarch interfering in their bailiwicks. Being able to assign an important task to a trusted aide may outweigh such concerns, and they rarely come up when a given office is being used as a sinecure for a noble.
So: we can appoint our friends to various minor offices to gain extra Actions per turn, but at the cost of damaging our relationship with existing office-holders who resent our interference. Notice that this might allow us to generate rivalries (between Khui and Ramessu, for instance) to distract and marginalize Khui's influence in the palace, but that might be iffy. We can also give those offices as bribes for nobles without that political cost, but also without the benefit of gaining a trusted agent.


Should a Pharaoh resurrect a royal navy it is likely that the Commander of the Royal Navy would merit a position on the Royal Council.
Given the strength of the alt-Greek navy, this would be a considerable challenge and long-term project. I'm not sure it's worth it. On the other hand, if we encourage Egyptian (cough Kemet) trade with other Mediterranean (cough ...what's the alt-name for that, again?) peoples, our home-grown economy might benefit enormously. Better ships might also be able to said down the Red Sea (cough ditto) and trade with the Near and Far East...

Alternatively some Pharaohs have found it expedient to elevate the Captain of the Horus Guard to a position on the Council as a counterbalance to the Royal Army. Encouraging rivalry between the Army and the Horus Guard is a risky maneuver, but it certainly leaves the Guard much less likely to collaborate in a coup attempt.
If Khui turns out to be too ambitious and we're unable to remove him for whatever reason, this would be a last ditch effort to shore up our own security. Note as well, though:
The case for making the Captain a Great Office of State is stronger if the Captain is also given command over mercenary forces instead of the Army, or the Guard is significantly expanded beyond its status as a bodyguard force.
Pretty sure that last item relates to the 'Medjay' action that was struck-through this last turn. Maybe not, but that does clear up a few things -- namely, given our economic strength (thanks Dad) we should be able to afford paying for mercenaries in case the army isn't trustworthy. I'm betting that was our father's plan, in fact, if the worse ever came to worst.

Royal Tutors are often retained at Court as an honored sinecure after their duties are fulfilled, but some may still be consulted or trusted with delicate missions. As with other unofficial agents, though, they may irritate or infuriate those holding official offices of state.
Useful. We should evaluate which of our royal tutors are worth retaining as unofficial agents. Meryawy, for instance, would be a shoe-in as a long-term helper for Piety tasks (not sure what title we'd give him), and that's true even if we don't select him as mentor. Ma'atneferure is probably a no-go, unless she proves her worth with palace gossip. I don't know about our Astronomer tutor -- he's basically a non-entity at this point -- but our chariot teacher Ramessu also has potential if our training works out.
 
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. The only difference between your Plan and mine is that you have us "Investigate Khui". I'd like to keep some difference between the two of us.
That was pretty much me offering to convert to your plan of you changed it, man.

Investigating Khui does little to help us pick a mentor.
It helps stabilise our reign. We have no confirmation on how dangerous the dude is, just speculations so far.
Also, time will cover the tracks of the eunuch incident, so we need to strike now for the dirt we want.

3. As for substantive disagreement: I don't think it's worth our while to investigate Khui at this point. He's still relatively new to the position, there are other power blocs in place, and as ambitious as he may be, it takes time to set up a proper coup attempt. He'd need to consolidate control of the army, gain the cooperation of another faction within the Palace, etc. Even assuming he's started on all that, I can't imagine he'd be far enough alone where it'd show up to an investigation
The point is to gather blackmail material and get him.under our thumb and gauge him before he gets a coup running and becomes an actual threat to us.
It's true we should gather dirt on our courtiers. But the idea behind my change would be a proactive effort to cultivate officials we can trust, versus a reactive effort to undercut officials we do not or cannot trust. It's much easier/safer to work with (and delegate authority to) a friend, than it is to do any of that with someone you're blackmailing for support.
Our friends join court in years, and we need to solidify power and respect at court now for legitimacy in any reasonable timeframe.
 
Like, I don't even know what the thread thinks of Khui anymore.

When we were thinking of doing some constructive engagement with him, suddenly he became so terrifying and competent that any positive interactions with us would boost him to the level that he would usurp us immediately and get game over.

When I propose some intrigue against him, suddenly he is in such a weak position that we can afford to faff around and let him prepare this coup for another year.

Why are people so afraid of any engagement with the dude at all? I mean, at the very least we can investigate him to actually confirm the conspiracy instead of vague OOC hints and fearmongering. And then take steps to resolve the problem of it exists, or at least be forewarned.

Because ignoring an obvious problem and letting it fester does not make it any better. And hanging with our peeps is something we can do after we've handled the very big, very obvious threat to us. Or at least tried to.
 
We could investigate someone else -- the eunuch Ptahshepses, perhaps -- but even that might backfire given that Ptahshepses runs his own network of informants. I guess it's worth asking: what's the DC for 'investigate'? What are our odds of succeeding? Our "informants network" is still only the one maid at the moment, and however good we are at Intrigue, we're sorely outclassed by some of the others in the Palace. I wish we could ask our mother Satysis or our tutor Ma'atneferure to investigate on our behalf, but that's a no-go until we hear back from @Cavalier.

Yeah, I think I said this earlier. You can certainly ask someone else to investigate on your behalf. You're just going to get their take on the matter using their skills and their judgment. Of course they'll lay out reasoning and evidence but you have to decide how much you can trust the investigator.

Rolls for Investigate depend on relative Intrigue stats and have multiple thresholds for just how much (and how accurate) information you get. You'll always get at least Eurydice's superficial impressions and gut feelings.
 
Yeah, I think I said this earlier. You can certainly ask someone else to investigate on your behalf. You're just going to get their take on the matter using their skills and their judgment. Of course they'll lay out reasoning and evidence but you have to decide how much you can trust the investigator.
Thanks for clarifying. Does this "ask someone else to investigate" take up an action all by itself, or can we delegate -- so our mother does the investigation while we're otherwise preoccupied with our usual personal actions the rest of the year?
 
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Rolls for Investigate depend on relative Intrigue stats and have multiple thresholds for just how much (and how accurate) information you get. You'll always get at least Eurydice's superficial impressions and gut feelings.
Can a "Investigate" action ever backfire? That is, is it ever possible for our investigation to be discovered or cause negative consequences in terms of what the target or others think of us? (For instance, say we investigate Khui. Is it possible he becomes aware of the investigation and takes offense at our doubting his loyalty, prompting him to start arranging a coup even if he wasn't before...?)
 
Thanks for clarifying. Does this "ask someone else to investigate" take up an action all by itself, or can we delegate -- so our mother does the investigation while we're otherwise preoccupied with our usual personal actions the rest of the year?

No, it does not cost a personal action. You just assign it like any other delegated task using the brackets to specify.

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Can a "Investigate" action ever backfire? That is, is it ever possible for our investigation to be discovered or cause negative consequences in terms of what the target or others think of us? (For instance, say we investigate Khui. Is it possible he becomes aware of the investigation and takes offense at our doubting his loyalty, prompting him to start arranging a coup even if he wasn't before...?)

Probably not without a botch. Unless the character has really good Intrigue and other reasons to be suspicious or fearful.
 
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@Cavalier, this seems like a pretty massive statement to drop so casually:
No, it does not cost a personal action. You just assign it like any other delegated task using the brackets to specify.
Are you saying that, in addition to our four Personal Actions, we can also delegate tasks to other officials (in our Royal Council or court)? If so... well, we need to radically reconsider how much and what we plan on doing this turn (!)

1) What are the restrictions on delegated tasks?
2) Who is available to be delegated to?

...There's probably a bunch of other questions I'm not thinking of, but that's a good start. I don't recall seeing this mentioned anywhere else in the thread, so please let us know!
 
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@Cavalier, this seems like a pretty massive statement to drop so casually:

Are you saying that, in addition to our four Personal Actions, we can also delegate tasks to other officials (in our Royal Council or court)? If so... well, we need to radically reconsider how much and what we plan on doing this turn (!)

1) What are the restrictions on delegated tasks?
2) Who is available to be delegated?

...There's probably a bunch of other questions I'm not thinking of, but that's a good start. I don't recall seeing this mentioned anywhere else in the thread, so please let us know!

Right now the Regency Council handles most of the actual governance. That's why some tasks are pre-filled. Using Authority is, right now, convincing the Regency to allow or order a thing. It's abstracted for ease; after the Regency you'll need to assign people to handle matters yourselves.

During the Regency you cannot delegate a task to members of the Council. There is a distinction between capital-o Officials and courtiers. You can ask your mom, or your tutors, to handle tasks which are reasonably personal rather than government-related. Once the Regency is over you gain more flexibility, but within the realm of reason. You can't tell the Inspector of Granaries to go raise a new division of troops, or the Commander of the Army to oversee expansion of a canal system.
 
During the Regency you cannot delegate a task to members of the Council. There is a distinction between capital-o Officials and courtiers. You can ask your mom, or your tutors, to handle tasks which are reasonably personal rather than government-related.
Okay then, let's get on that. Here's the list of courtiers we can theoretically influence:
Other Positions
Royal Magician: Who is also called Satysis
Supervisor of the Garden of Ptah: Banefre
Tutor to the Queen: Ma'atneferure
Tutor to the Queen: Meryawy
Tutor to the Queen: Zizel-Kur
Tutor to the Queen: Ramessu
@Cavalier, I'm assuming that we can't delegate actions that involve our own individual training to others. (For instance, we can't just assign 'compound bow training' to Ramessu and free up an action for ourselves. Likewise for "learn diplomacy from", or "study sacred rites", or "learn stewardship from", or "learn about palace intrigues", or "study astronomy" -- as all of those would require our own personal involvement). Let me know if that's wrong, though.

(I'm also assuming that bow training with Ramessu makes him unavailable for other tasks this turn.)

We don't really know Banefre, but we might consider visiting the Garden of Ptah simply in order to meet him and make him available for the future...

We're left with our mother and our three tutors.
  • Satysis: good with Intrigue & Learning (royal magician is tricksy)
  • Ma'atneferure: good with Intrigue & Diplomacy (gossip queen of the palace)
  • Zizel-Kur: good with Learning (astronomy/math tutor, slightly 'in over his head'...)
  • Meryawy: good with Piety & Learning (priest of Ra, our favorite)
Zizel-Kur is definitely out (we don't really know/trust him, and don't know how competent he is). We should definitely use our mother & Meryawy if possible. Ma'atneferure is up in the air -- we know she's a 'creature' of our aunt the Dowager Queen, but she seems to be on our side even so.

So, possibilities:
  • Satysis: investigate the general Khui. OR investigate a mentor candidate.
  • Ma'atneferure: investigate the eunuch corps (or Ptahshepses specifically), or some other mentor candidate.
  • Meryawy: ...not sure. We could ask him to consult the oracles (but that may also require our personal involvement). The only other tasks I can think of would be either inspecting the Garden of Ptah or investigating the Royal Archives
Thoughts?
 
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Do we really trust anyone but our mother, if that, with investigations?
I was thinking more of relying Ma'atneferure to give us access to more of the palace gossip and info on behavior within the palace. I'm pretty sure that was part of her role for the Dowager Queen. This might include things like "Khui is rumored to be in love with a eunuch. Which eunuch?" I certainly wouldn't trust her with investigating Khui directly.

Alternately, we might ask our mother and our tutor to investigate two mentor candidates -- Meryawy and Ptahshepses seem to be the frontrunners, so they'd probably the ones we check out.
 
@Cavalier, I'm assuming that we can't delegate actions that involve our own individual training to others. (For instance, we can't just assign 'compound bow training' to Ramessu and free up an action for ourselves. Likewise for "learn diplomacy from", or "study sacred rites", or "learn stewardship from", or "learn about palace intrigues", or "study astronomy" -- as all of those would require our own personal involvement). Let me know if that's wrong, though.

(I'm also assuming that bow training with Ramessu makes him unavailable for other tasks this turn.)

Use common sense. Anything that Eurydice needs to do herself to get any benefit from, she has to do herself. That includes Training and Knowledge based actions. And each character can only perform one delegated action per turn; that is used up by actions which are not explicitly leisure-based.

So no Ramessu is not available if you train the bow with him this turn.
 
Well if our mom can investigate Khui tha5 sounds pretty good.

For Banefre we could ask about the warrior traditions of Kemet, that sounds like what a librarian would be useful for, and we can get a base knowledge for recruiting someone to displace Khui.
 
For Banefre we could ask about the warrior traditions of Kemet, that sounds like what a librarian would be useful for, and we can get a base knowledge for recruiting someone to displace Khui.
That does seem like a suitable task for a librarian. However, we haven't yet met Banefre (so I'd be hesitant to give him commands from afar, especially when the purpose of this is to delegate personal tasks to courtiers we know and trust). Also, I don't think Cavalier is allowing write-ins (which this would be).

Meryawy: ...not sure. We could ask him to [...] investigate the Royal Archives
@Cavalier, if we ask Meryawy to investigate the Royal Archives, can we make sure to qualify that as a request rather than as a command. The Archives are fairly low priority, so if Meryawy has better things to do with his time, or if it'd damage our relationship with him to give an order like that, I'd really rather not.

(Alternately, you can just tell us if asking Meryawy to investigate would have any adverse effects. That'd work too.)

Changes to 'Plan Ra Rebalanced' forthcoming...
 
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@Cavalier, if we ask Meryawy to investigate the Royal Archives, can we make sure to qualify that as a request rather than as a command. The Archives are fairly low priority, so if Meryawy has better things to do with his time, or if it'd damage our relationship with him to give an order like that, I'd really rather not.

(Alternately, you can just tell us if asking Meryawy to investigate would have any adverse effects. That'd work too.)

Changes to 'Plan Ra Rebalanced' forthcoming...

Investigating the royal archives is a "with" activity. Meryawy is doing so anyway, but if you want a roll to find Cool Stuff there you have to devote an action to it.
 
Good to know. On a separate note: can we invite courtiers to help us out with various actions? This turn, we're building a new temple and instituting new rites. Can we request Meryawy help us out to make sure we don't mess up along the way? Or is that also assumed to be a 'with' activity?

Another random question: will we receive the results of this turn (including any Investigations) before we take the vote to choose a mentor? Or is everything happening concurrently, so we won't get others' insight before making the decision?
 
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Good to know. On a separate note: can we invite courtiers to help us out with various actions? This turn, we're building a new temple and instituting new rites. Can we request Meryawy help us out to make sure we don't mess up along the way? Or is that also assumed to be a 'with' activity?

Meryawy is a priest of Ra and as such would not be an appropriate choice for advice on that particularly topic. You're already working with the Hathor temple priests. I'm also not sure the mechanics work to allow you to "stack" characters on an action and even if it does I'm not sure I want to open that complicating factor.
 
Pretty sure you once stacked character actions in the "From Small Beginnings" quest (Publicola, that is).

The dice exploded like a fangirl's ovaries. :V

Also, please edit your posts rather than doublepost. It's seen as bad form to post two minutes after making a post when the edit button exists to be used for such things.
 
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Pretty sure you once stacked character actions in the "From Small Beginnings" quest.
...Yeah fair enough. That did get pretty messy.

On the other hand, pretty sure that was intended to be part of the quest design from the beginning, since Observed talked about requiring 'chained' successes to get good results. (I'm innocent, I tell you!:whistle:)
 
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