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Give them An exoskeleton, let them go hulk.
Or a jet pack and a hammer, Thor Style
Black Widow 2020
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Give them An exoskeleton, let them go hulk.
Or a jet pack and a hammer, Thor Style
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Maybe he has a knock-off repulsor beam gauntlet or other energy weapon that he got from the Vulture, only good for a few shots but it'd come as a suprise.
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So he's got Cap's Shield, Hawkeye's bow, Panther's claws and... somebody's sword?
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By our powers combined.....
No, it really doesn't fit, does it?
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My one issue is that Taskmaster seems to be just some skulking goon with no personality, but in the comics he's actually a very talkative person with a pretty distinct personality. Seems like they're filing that off for no reason.
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With how circumspect they're being about Taskmaster in the advertising, it's definitely a Natasha clone or something under the mask. There's no reason they'd leave the apparent main villain completely faceless and voiceless unless the reveal of their identity is meant to be shocking.
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Or they're just a cheap Vader clone and they don't intend to spend much time on them.
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You can both be right.
Renewal
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Yup, the alternative is Taskmaster is disposable and we'll get a secret mastermind a la Iron Man 3 and the Mandarin.
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I'm putting bets on it's that one character who the advertising have avoided featuring at all aside from casting calls and his narration in the first trailer, a former SHIELD Agent and a close friend of Natasha named Mason played by OT Fagbenle, who in accordance to the 'Unmentioned Best Friend Traitor' cliché ends up being Taskmaster for a dramatic twist.
And whaddya know...
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I mean that's possible, but it seems like such a plot would be rather empty if it focused on a totally unmentioned new character that Nat hasn't seen fit to talk to or about for the better part of a decade in the films suddenly showing up only to turn out to be the bad guy.I'm putting bets on it's that one character who the advertising have avoided featuring at all aside from casting calls and his narration in the first trailer, a former SHIELD Agent and a close friend of Natasha named Mason played by OT Fagbenle, who in accordance to the 'Unmentioned Best Friend Traitor' cliché ends up being Taskmaster for a dramatic twist.
And whaddya know...
The thing about TM in the comics, unless it's been retconed, is that his powers basically over write his memory to the point that his wife is his handler and he doesn't know it,,, and he is also a quasi-shield asset.
The upshot being if they keep that kind of characterization it kinda necessitates him being not the big bad, but does make him at least a semi interesting villain.
Not really sure how that would fold into hydra/shield given the time frame.
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I don't expect Taskmaster to be the main villain, I'm putting additional bets on it being Natasha's family or at least one of them, who are manipulating her to help them take over the Red Room.
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What's nuts about that time-table is that it completely upsets the conventional Hollywood release structure. Usually they dump movies they're not sure about in Jan-March or Sept-Nov, horror movies in Oct, and the big blockbusters come out in April-Aug while the Oscar bait (and a few other blockbusters) get pushed out between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Really wonder what the Hollywood landscape is going to look like once this is all over, between the pressure to switch to streaming and the inability to show movies at certain times of the year.
Really wonder what the Hollywood landscape is going to look like once this is all over, between the pressure to switch to streaming and the inability to show movies at certain times of the year.
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In some ways this might be a big benefit to them. After endgame I think a lot of people were burnt out on superhero stuff with even positive reviews of things like Far from home mentioning a feeling of fatigue. Taking a year off and making people look forward to one again will probably be good for them long term.
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July 9 this time
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So watched it online, because the Australian government fucked the vaccine situation, and my state government sat on their hands too long with doing a lockdown. So now we are in a three week lockdown, likely to extend even longer. So no more cinema for a good while.
Anyway Black Widow. It's fine. It's exactly what you think it is.
Anyway Black Widow. It's fine. It's exactly what you think it is.
Black Widow teams up with her sis, and then her pretend dad and mom, they take down the abusive male Russian oligarch running the Red Room who operates a shadowy network of Black Widow agents out of a sky fortress, they win, it ties back to the main Avengers movies.
I stopped paying attention to the process of Black Widow because I never cared that much in the first place, and all the pushback of release. But I thought it had finished filming before COVID restrictions. Because the movie felt very stripped down. Aside from the Russian prison scene, and Budapest, there was very few extras that weren't goons in full-face helmets. And it felt like a bunch of the fights and character moments that Red Guardian should have had got stripped out. The fight he has with Taskmaster is so short, and the movie just half-heartedly cuts back to it to show 'oh yeah, they are still fighting'.
Anyway, the opening scene starts off strong. I'd be far more interested in a tv show about Red Guardian and Mommy Black Widow doing stuff in the Cold War than the run of the mill movie we got. Or if it connected more to the present day stuff. Particularly since Scarlett Johansson never seems like she is doing more than she has to. Rachel Weisz is doing a stilted Russian accent, but David Harbour is really good, just a shame he gets so little time. Pugh is fine, so I guess her taking over as the Black Widow, will happen. She starts quipping straight after being freed from the Red Room control, which has had her since she is a small child. But making her stoic probably wouldn't have worked any better.
Task Master is also disappointing. They genderswapped and tied it into how Black Widow thought she took out the Red Room initially. But she isn't exactly dominating any of the fights that much, so she is just one special tough goon, in a movie full of faceless goons. They really needed her to actually kick ass, and she never really does, they always just slip away, or something happens. The emotional connection is thin because Natasha never even met her, she just blew her away from across the street. Do something, like put the bomb in her backpack, and have an interaction scene.
The baddie is nothing. He's an evil Russian male oligarch abusing women into being his tools and running a shadowy network to gain power, out of a sky fortress. He isn't really doing anything in particular with the power, no bringing back Communism, or whatever. Absolutely boring. He isn't even injured from the explosion. They make a point about him being a non-entity, but lampshading it doesn't really change the fact that it's a void in the quality of the movie.
But it's a movie that essentially has to introduce 95% of the Black Widow Mythology, and pay it off in the same movie because the MCU only intended her for team-up movies, and so left everything vague. But its also a movie that takes the 5% that had been established, and basically pays it off in the most straight forward manner. It's ticking a box (give Black Widow her own movie), connective tissue and introduce a new Black Widow that now has her own supportive cast, and might be doing some Thunderbolts stuff.
I stopped paying attention to the process of Black Widow because I never cared that much in the first place, and all the pushback of release. But I thought it had finished filming before COVID restrictions. Because the movie felt very stripped down. Aside from the Russian prison scene, and Budapest, there was very few extras that weren't goons in full-face helmets. And it felt like a bunch of the fights and character moments that Red Guardian should have had got stripped out. The fight he has with Taskmaster is so short, and the movie just half-heartedly cuts back to it to show 'oh yeah, they are still fighting'.
Anyway, the opening scene starts off strong. I'd be far more interested in a tv show about Red Guardian and Mommy Black Widow doing stuff in the Cold War than the run of the mill movie we got. Or if it connected more to the present day stuff. Particularly since Scarlett Johansson never seems like she is doing more than she has to. Rachel Weisz is doing a stilted Russian accent, but David Harbour is really good, just a shame he gets so little time. Pugh is fine, so I guess her taking over as the Black Widow, will happen. She starts quipping straight after being freed from the Red Room control, which has had her since she is a small child. But making her stoic probably wouldn't have worked any better.
Task Master is also disappointing. They genderswapped and tied it into how Black Widow thought she took out the Red Room initially. But she isn't exactly dominating any of the fights that much, so she is just one special tough goon, in a movie full of faceless goons. They really needed her to actually kick ass, and she never really does, they always just slip away, or something happens. The emotional connection is thin because Natasha never even met her, she just blew her away from across the street. Do something, like put the bomb in her backpack, and have an interaction scene.
The baddie is nothing. He's an evil Russian male oligarch abusing women into being his tools and running a shadowy network to gain power, out of a sky fortress. He isn't really doing anything in particular with the power, no bringing back Communism, or whatever. Absolutely boring. He isn't even injured from the explosion. They make a point about him being a non-entity, but lampshading it doesn't really change the fact that it's a void in the quality of the movie.
But it's a movie that essentially has to introduce 95% of the Black Widow Mythology, and pay it off in the same movie because the MCU only intended her for team-up movies, and so left everything vague. But its also a movie that takes the 5% that had been established, and basically pays it off in the most straight forward manner. It's ticking a box (give Black Widow her own movie), connective tissue and introduce a new Black Widow that now has her own supportive cast, and might be doing some Thunderbolts stuff.
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Val, the mysterious woman from Falcon & Winter Soldier, who recruited John Walker and turned him into US Agent, makes an appearance in the end. Before all the movie and miniseries scheduling went crazy due to COVID, Black Widow was initially supposed to be her first appearance.
Who or what she is, her motives, planes, etc, are still clear as mud, but this woman is either gonna be up to something pretty bad, or pretty awesome, depending on what happens.
Who or what she is, her motives, planes, etc, are still clear as mud, but this woman is either gonna be up to something pretty bad, or pretty awesome, depending on what happens.
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The only weird thing about this movie is between it and Endgame the implication is Natasha never mentioned her adopted family to any of the Avengers, despite several years passing.
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I'm surprised I like it as much as I did. It probably has some of the best action scenes in a MCU film, without the space gods and Iron Men flying around.
I only had one complain and that's Taskmaster.
Overall, I give it a 7/10. Widow's sister and dad really added a lot. It's a shame 2020 uhhhh happened.
I only had one complain and that's Taskmaster.
The moment the Baddie's daughter was mention I knew she was gonna be Taskmaster. That's a real shame because Taskmaster is pretty fucking awesome. His backstory is "hey where do all these hired trained goons come from?" which is just delightful. Taskmaster being wasted on some random girl Widow murdered is just eh.
Overall, I give it a 7/10. Widow's sister and dad really added a lot. It's a shame 2020 uhhhh happened.