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Oakland factors in so prominently because that's where Ryan Coogler was born and raised.

It's also where Fruitvale Station, Coogler's debut film, takes place.
 
EVagesIL said:
I understand that the target audience of the Black Panther movie is African-Americans and that the goal is to provide catharsis and escape for them in as broadly acceptable a package as possible, but Sudan and somalia are right there next to them in far worse trouble than Oakland.
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Considering where we first see Nakia, I would be astonished if such places are being ignored.
 
Oksbad said:
Armond White is a pretty blatant troll.

A rather funny clip about him.

A more serious, but still funny article where you can see how trollish his reviews are.

I'll won't get too political about what I think the National Review publishing his review with a straight face says about them, but it's nothing good.
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His Suicide Squad review was actually somewhat positive overall; we had a discussion before about how RT mislabeled it.

But his shtick is applying standard movie review methods to contrarian opinions; it's performance art. If anything it should open your eyes to how bloody empty most film reviews are
 
After having read this in-depth history of White's career, yeah no, I can't take defenses of his style seriously. His reviews clearly were relevant and insightful in the past, but nowadays? It just seems like an old shtick the man himself is tired of.
 
all fictions said:
After having read this in-depth history of White's career, yeah no, I can't take defenses of his style seriously. His reviews clearly were relevant and insightful in the past, but nowadays? It just seems like an old shtick the man himself is tired of.
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I don't think that's quite right; he's very much an older conservative man who is quite bitter, but he's most certainly aware of his own gimmick and plays around it. That it's become tame is probably more that we have a lot more options now for contrarian film review than someone who just takes the standard newspaper style and inverts it. An idea whose time is past in many ways
 
Alright so I just saw this for a second time and came up with some observations. First the betrayal of W'Kabi is actually a lot more set up that I thought. At the very least he is a lot more militant then I remember from my first viewing. Secondly Ross is able to not only recognize Killmonger on sight but knows a shit ton about his background right away. Makes you think maybe he was doing some pretty shady things with the CIA and isn't just some mid-level flunky in over his head. Third and finally what exactly was Killmonger's dad spying on in the Oakland projects? Like he seems to be there just to set up an armed robbery with some guys. You'd think if you would going to send spies into other nations you'd try and get them into places of power and influence or at the very least be close to a major capital or city, not just slumming it in some inner city hell hole.
 
VolantRedX said:
Him and "James" are literally talking about get away cars.
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Doesn't actually contradict his point. You'd want getaway cars for a terror attack as well.
VolantRedX said:
You'd think if you would going to send spies into other nations you'd try and get them into places of power and influence or at the very least be close to a major capital or city, not just slumming it in some inner city hell hole.
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It's not clear how much discretion/oversight the War Dogs were given. Even if it were, he was long off the reservation by the time we see him.
 
Destynova1 said:
Oh baby, pasta with veggies is awesome
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.... Wait, there's people who eat pasta without any veggies whatsoever?

You need veggies like mushrooms, bell peppers and tomatoes to make sure that the pasta has any taste at all.

I didn't mention pesto because pesto's based on nuts lol.
 
LSkullD said:
.... Wait, there's people who eat pasta without any veggies whatsoever?

You need veggies like mushrooms, bell peppers and tomatoes to make sure that the pasta has any taste at all.

I didn't mention pesto because pesto's based on nuts lol.
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That's oddly relevant because I'm currently wondering why the pasta I just ate was so tasteless compared to other times I've eaten the same dish. (Which includes mushrooms, baby spinach, parmesan cheese, and (apologies to M'baku) slices of chicken sausage.)
Automatonation said:
I liked it, it was really good, and I can see why it got the hype it got, but it just didn't click for me like it did for other people. Part of the movie's impact really seems to require a certain emotional and cultural connection that I lack.
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I'm not sure what connection that is, because I thought it clicked just fine for me and I'm a (white) Australian.
 
I dunno, I had one real problem with this movie and that was that for some reason I found T'Challa da Balla (and really the entire castO to be hammier and more passionate than Erik Killmonger.

Maybe it just had to do with the theater I was in doing something weird to his voice, or maybe it goes something like that Key and Peele sketch where they act as two actors in Britain acting like gangsters on the streets of Brooklyn and I'm being a racist poo poo head douchenozzle unable to appreciate a fantastic performance thanks to Michael B. Jordan using African-American Vernacular English to make it work.
 
LSkullD said:
I dunno, I had one real problem with this movie and that was that for some reason I found T'Challa da Balla (and really the entire castO to be hammier and more passionate than Erik Killmonger.

Maybe it just had to do with the theater I was in doing something weird to his voice, or maybe it goes something like that Key and Peele sketch where they act as two actors in Britain acting like gangsters on the streets of Brooklyn and I'm being a racist poo poo head douchenozzle unable to appreciate a fantastic performance thanks to Michael B. Jordan using African-American Vernacular English to make it work.
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I don't want to be that guy, But I'm sorry that they didn't make a 100% code switched version of the movie, where all the Wakandans have posh British accents and Michael B. Jordan used a neutral code switched North American English accent. I know that movie doesn't exist, but if it did I'm sure that would help you get much better into it.

Edit: To clarify, I don't think that AAVE detracts from Michael B. Jordan's performance, and I sure as hell don't think that Erik Killmonger wouldn't speak with some form of AAVE.
 
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Fivemarks said:
I don't want to be that guy, But I'm sorry that they didn't make a 100% code switched version of the movie, where all the Wakandans have posh British accents and Michael B. Jordan used a neutral code switched North American English accent. I know that movie doesn't exist, but if it did I'm sure that would help you get much better into it.
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Thank you for being an asshole.

... I'm not being sarcastic, thank you for being an asshole, you had to be because if I didn't I wouldn't realize that the problem was just me.
 
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