Best In Life - Imperial Knight Order Quest [Warhammer Fantasy]

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Added the Marquis and the vampire to my plan as nemesis options, since it looks like people really do dig the idea. That just leaves religion and name - still taking suggestions on those.
My suggestions is take Manann; we're a crusader, and that means we're going to need to travel far and wide. Having Manann like us would probably help with that. Also I'm unaware of a Knightly Order of Manann, whereas most of the others do.

As for name to stay in keeping with the suggested patron, The Knights of the Storm and Sea is my suggestion.

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Order of the White Albatross (It's his symbol, so it fits)
Knights Cerulean
Knights Who Say Ni :V
 
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I don't think the Lady cares about international politics.

She does care about not having Bretonnia start a war of vengeance against the superpower of the Old World though for what amounts to them being salty one of their dudes got killed by a girl in single combat. It'd set her project back quite a bit if a good half the country burns.
 
What synergy? The only synergy involving a vampire I see is MAYBE having the Shallyan and throwing in with Morr.
The synergy of competing unwanted husbandos, of course.

Yes, it's cheap amusement. This is a Swordo quest, and a Warhammer quest besides, silliness is going to happen. And, as I said before, I am shamelessly mercenary for the companion spread I laid out: I go where the votes are, and people dig it.
 
I mean I only mentioned it because between Swordo's writing style and normal warhammer shenanigans would make it interesting/funny.
 
My suggestions is take Manann; we're a crusader, and that means we're going to need to travel far and wide. Having Manann like us would probably help with that.
I mean, will we? Are we likely to have any reason to travel outside the Empire? It certainly seems to have enough trouble in its own borders. If we were based in Nordland or something then yeah, sure, it'd be great for countering Norscan raids, but as is...
 
Honestly, if we decided godly focus was worth it, I'd say Myrmidia. A warrior goddess for a warrior woman, foreign and thus kept more divorced from imperial politics.

Either that or just go in for Sigmar and accept the consequences.
 
I mean, will we? Are we likely to have any reason to travel outside the Empire? It certainly seems to have enough trouble in its own borders. If we were based in Nordland or something then yeah, sure, it'd be great for countering Norscan raids, but as is...
I agree completely. We don't need to go far to find threats that need murdering.
 
I agree completely. We don't need to go far to find threats that need murdering.
True. But it may be expeduent to assist allies and make them happy towards us and, (hopefully) by extension Karl.
Even the. I'd still prefer a warrior deity if we MUST pick one.

For example, in one year King Kazador's family will be murdered and kidnalled.
 
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True. But it may be expeduent to assist allies and make them happy towards us and, (hopefully) by extension Karl.
Even the. I'd still prefer a warrior deity if we MUST pick one.
Most deities in Warhammer Fantasy are warrior gods, in one aspect or the other. Morr (since he's my patron god of choice) used to be the head god of the Old World Pantheon, but his fight against the initial Chaos incursion left him barely alive, forcing him to become the God of the Dead.
Even in this role, he acts as the fierce defender against the depravity the Midnight Aristocracy unleashes upon the dead, and offers eternal rest to all mortals.
 
Honestly, if we decided godly focus was worth it, I'd say Myrmidia. A warrior goddess for a warrior woman, foreign and thus kept more divorced from imperial politics.
Myrmidia would be an interesting choice, but seems like a poor fit for Johanna "I came out to crush skulls and honestly I feel fantastic right now" Holswig-Schliestein, and far from being removed from politics I suspect it would mire us in entanglements for worshipping a foreign god. If we want to avoid politics, the Secular option is right there.

That said, I need to retire for the night, so I'll return to this discussion in a few hours.
 
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Added the Marquis and the vampire to my plan as nemesis options, since it looks like people really do dig the idea. That just leaves religion and name - still taking suggestions on those, but I'm leaning slightly towards a secular Order.

Is there anyway I could persuade you to go for a Templar order of Myrmida?

That particular deity is one that rarely makes appearances in quests and this one is a perfect fit.
 
Thinking about doing a Myrmidian Priesthood for the simple fact that I have never seen there types before in quests. Lime a character that is Myrmidian.

I'll make it tomorrow though. Besides War Goddess? War gods are always awesome for Knightly Orders!

@Swordomatic

Question: I've heard in the forum that Myrmidian is a lie created by either Nefferata or the Lamians. How true is this? Like lore wise?

Second question: Do all Knightly orders have the same protection against chaos and undead?
 
[X] Plan Goddess of War

-[X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.
--[X] Myrmidia
Myrmidia is the Goddess of War, and her worship has spread into the Empire from the southern Old World nations of Tilea and Estalia. An advocate of War as an art and science, she is a god foreign to the Empire, and whose faithful seem strange to its people.

The closest thing we can get to a divine patron that's divorced from politics, also she's all about guns and knowledge and stuff and I love artillery.

-[X][MARTIAL] Siegbert Reiner is an old travelling companion of yours, the sole other survivor of your time with the elves. You're surprised he's put his name forwards, he swore he'd had enough battle to last a lifetime, but you suppose the old dog changed his mind. A beastmaster of some ability, he would be invaluable in breaking and training the Order's horses - and other creatures, if they were acquired in the future.

An Ogre is a bad choice for military advisor but the other choices are pretty decent, I went with Siegbert because I want some demigryphs or maybe even a griffon. Also experience is always nice in an advisor

-[X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.

If we want magic items we can commission them, we're playing the sister of the Emperor after all. This is the job for stewardship advisor and I don't want the advice to be 'give me rare ingredients so I can make cool stuff for myself'

-[X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?

High staff efficiency is an excellent reason to choose her. Also I don't want a witch hunter giving me the evil eye all the time or trying to act as a diplomat.

-[X][PIETY] A Priest has offered to join your Order to help tend to the men and watch over the faith of your Order. You're pretty sure they're plants by the various cults in the Empire, but having a Priest stationed permanently in your Order would be tremendous for morale, especially in a Religious Order. (Write-in: By Default, will match the religion of a Templar Order)

Priests are pretty useful for a variety of things.

-[X][BRETONNIA] The new Marquis, a fully ordained Knight of the Realm, has taken up the Kingdom's vendetta and seeks to challenge you to single combat, with the caveat that if you lose, you will become his wife. That's… slightly concerning. You have no intention of getting married to a Bretonnian, you know what they do to women there. Your future there is death in a wineyard, not death on the battlefield. And you don't like wine that much.
-[X][DESTRUCTION] As a teenage girl, you once had a daydream or two about being kidnapped by a vampire and finding eternal love in undeath - because monsters or not the story of Vlad von Carstein and Isabella von Carstein is pretty fucking romantic - but the thing about teenage fantasies is how awful they tend to be in practice. Which is not great for you, because you seem to have a vampiric admirer. More than once he's slaughtered a pack of beastmen and greenskins to raise an army to fight you, just so he can see you again. It's… actually fairly thoughtful of him to clear out the Empire's enemies while still giving you something to crush, but this is still creepy. Eurgh.

If we're going to have to deal with an enemy I'd like one that simultaneously kills our enemies for us.

Additionally a Knight of the Realm is going to not have all that much time to chase after us compared to a Grail knight or Knight Errant.

Also the combination of these two should be funny.



-[X][NAME] The Order of Johanna

Name if after the best possible fighter we can find and hope others follow their example. (No didn't just do this because I'm not creative!)

[X] Plan Judgement of the Dead

Approval vote since it has everything I wanted, well the god is different but that's OK. Maybe we can convince the Morrons to perform some cremation after the dead rise and murder everyone for the 100000th time.
 
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Thinking about doing a Myrmidian Priesthood for the simple fact that I have never seen there types before in quests. Lime a character that is Myrmidian.

I'll make it tomorrow though. Besides War Goddess? War gods are always awesome for Knightly Orders!

@Swordomatic

Question: I've heard in the forum that Myrmidian is a lie created by either Nefferata or the Lamians. How true is this? Like lore wise?

Second question: Do all Knightly orders have the same protection against chaos and undead?
1) If I had an opinion on this, I wouldn't tell you anyways. This is a story seed.
2) Considering those protections rely on faith and magic, no. However, nothing stops a Secular Order from having members that are protected.
@Swordomatic
Does going Secular precluded Johanna from her own personal worship?

Same for others in our Order?
Nope. A Secular Order can be as faithful as a Templar Order, they simply aren't sworn to service like the Templars are, likely because you have different concerns like service to a Lord.
 
[X] Plan "of course I didn't name it after my self"

[X][NAME] Write-In: Grand Order of the Titaness

[X][FAITH] Templar Order: Faith brings adherents and the attentions of their patron, but politics boondoggles everything.
-[X] Myrmidia
Myrmidia is the Goddess of War, and her worship has spread into the Empire from the southern Old World nations of Tilea and Estalia. An advocate of
War as an art and science, she is a god foreign to the Empire, and whose faithful seem strange to its people


[X][MARTIAL] Your old sparring mate, Dragg Limbripper, has heard that new Orders are being founded and come to seek his knighthood yet again. While an ogre squire would be a first, there's no actual rule against it, and Dragg's a good fellow. A bit dim, but he means well! Besides, he's a phenomenal wrestler, and it'd be good to have a training partner who can actually push you - and just think what he could make of your knights!... If he doesn't break them.

[X][STEWARDSHIP] Besen von Verlässlich, or Brom as you called him, is a childhood friend of yours. You remember him as he was, weedy and noodly, but he had heart. So you kept him around, showed him the ropes, dragged him along for walks, and hammered him into good iron. Before long he grew up, bulked out, and became someone worth talking to. Last you heard he had become a part of the Imperial Estate, an aide to the Imperial Steward! And now he's applying to serve you. That's… actually kind of sweet of him.

[X][DIPLOMACY] Luise Liebjungfer once served Duchess Alda von Preissner loyally as a Lady-in-Waiting, but tragically the Duchess died not too long ago, reportedly slain by beastmen while visiting her vineyards. With the death of her lady, Luise has been looking for another to serve. Reputed to be one of Reikland's finest ladies-in-waiting, Luise would be a great boon to the comforts of your household and the efficiency of your staff, and apparently her massages are incredible. Well. The job has to come with some perks, right?

[X][PIETY] You received an offer from a Templar of a Religious Order to join your service out of respect for your prowess, deeming it pleasing to their patron. Whether or not you choose to remain secular or dedicate yourself to a god, another veteran of a Knightly Order can only be helpful. Write In: a strategically minded and well-traveled Knight of the Blazing Sun

[X][BRETONNIA] A Knight Errant has declared a vendetta on you, vowing to defeat you to avenge the slight to his father's name… oh, great, the Marquis' stupid son wants to avenge him. He's even a Knight Errant, so either he'll hound you to the end of your days or you do duel him and someone dies. Note to self, find a Jade Wizard. Hopefully he wises up soon.

[X][DESTRUCTION] When Gork and Mork were handing out luck, Boss Ribkrumpa got the short end of the stick. He's been skulking around Reikland since before you were born, launching irritating raids but never amassing the successes necessary to accumulate a proper Waaaagh!, only holding onto his position through his innate might as as a Black Orc and a certain low cunning - you tried like many before you to crush him for good, but even the Reiksguard wasn't enough to keep him from slipping away. Now he's finally sick of being dismissed as an annoyance, and has set his sights on making his name as the Skullcrusha-crusha. He's experienced, an uncommonly skilled tactician for a greenskin, and rapidly growing in power in anticipation of facing you.

Edit: Myrmidia right now is pretty up and coming and a fashionable eccentricity moderately popular in Reikland and the southern Empire. As Myrmidian Templars we have a solid chance of being neutral and impartial hitched to Reikland's official outsiders-that-aren't-too-outside-like-those-gross-Morrites.
 
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When so many people are voting for their own stuff but your own plan gets no support.
Rip Morr,
I hoped you'd get your place in the limelight...

Morr is also quite a safe political choice. He has no conflicting positions against the other deities, and specifically blesses his followers against the Undead. Moreover, striking against the agents of Morr is generally a suicide option, since Morr is the God who safeguards your soul.
 
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(Oh god why can't I sleeeep)
Is there anyway I could persuade you to go for a Templar order of Myrmida?

That particular deity is one that rarely makes appearances in quests and this one is a perfect fit.
You can certainly try, yes. I remain shamelessly mercenary, after all, so if you can sway people to your way of thinking, I'll add it to my plan. As I said previously though, Myrmidia's focus on the thinkier aspect of war seem like a tricky fit for Johanna, enthusiastic skullcrusher that she is. Not impossible, but it's a point of concern.
An Ogre is a bad choice for military advisor
Uh, point of order, @Swordomatic are the companion options actually advisors? My understanding is that this is basically a personal quest with CK2 mechanics, not a nation-ruling quest.
When so many people are voting for their own stuff but your own plan gets no support.
Rip Morr,
I hoped you'd get your place in the limelight...
Hey, make a pitch to people and I'm prepared to go Morrite if it gains traction - we do have a vampire Nemesis!
 
I'd rather not be too specialized in a deific patron. And I certainly see the value of not being mired in religious politics.

As is, I'm uncertain about Dragg, given our troops will be at the edge without him. With him, we could literally lose a significant fraction to training alone. Nevermind the morale penalties.
 
As is, I'm uncertain about Dragg, given our troops will be at the edge without him. With him, we could literally lose a significant fraction to training alone.
I mean, maybe. It's unclear how much of a prospect training accidents actually are. Besides, we've got a Shallyan priestess to balance it out.

Okay seriously for reals this time, goodnight all.
 
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