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Really now, tally?
Behind the Serpent Throne (CK2)
- Thread starter The Laurent
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Besides asking for a tally, I also have another question: with the Cast of Characters, it should only be people who are mentioned on screen or that Kiralo has met, right? Because in the background, he's met probably hundreds of figures by now, they're just not important, or rather he interacts them at the level between me writing, "Kiralo went through his courtly contacts, including a bureaucrat in the Department of Blah, in order to achieve Y. It partially succeeded, but also...yada yada yada" and the actual 'reality' that in the court this would be an extended and careful set of actions and interactions that I just decided not to show.
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
Vote Tally : Original - Fantasy - Behind the Serpent Throne (CK2) | Page 66 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4
Options:
Ask about the library, and try to shift it to philosophy and learned discourse in general. It's certainly a topic she is aware of.
Ask her about her hobbies and interests.
Ask her about the matter of the laws, perhaps spark her to show her true interests in this and other topics.
Confront her with the knowledge that he knows that she is playing a game at the moment.
Discuss religion, the gods, and the new Emperor.
Quiz her on recent political events...try to see whether she has opinions and whether she's willing to express them.
Take tea with her, and perhaps ask her about her household situation, see just what she wants Kiralo to know.
Talk to her about poetry and plays, see if she knows anything about such topics.
Winner: Ask her about the matter of the laws, perhaps spark her to show her true interests in this and other topics.
First Runner Up: Take tea with her, and perhaps ask her about her household situation, see just what she wants Kiralo to know.
Second Runner Up: Confront her with the knowledge that he knows that she is playing a game at the moment.
Third Runner Up: Ask her about her hobbies and interests.
Honorable Mention: Quiz her on recent political events...try to see whether she has opinions and whether she's willing to express them.
Honorable Mention: Discuss religion, the gods, and the new Emperor.
Honorable Mention: Ask about the library, and try to shift it to philosophy and learned discourse in general. It's certainly a topic she is aware of.
Honorable Mention: Talk to her about poetry and plays, see if she knows anything about such topics.
Total No. of Voters: 13
##### NetTally 1.7.4
Options:
Ask about the library, and try to shift it to philosophy and learned discourse in general. It's certainly a topic she is aware of.
Ask her about her hobbies and interests.
Ask her about the matter of the laws, perhaps spark her to show her true interests in this and other topics.
Confront her with the knowledge that he knows that she is playing a game at the moment.
Discuss religion, the gods, and the new Emperor.
Quiz her on recent political events...try to see whether she has opinions and whether she's willing to express them.
Take tea with her, and perhaps ask her about her household situation, see just what she wants Kiralo to know.
Talk to her about poetry and plays, see if she knows anything about such topics.
Winner: Ask her about the matter of the laws, perhaps spark her to show her true interests in this and other topics.
[1] Gingganz
[1] Muer'ci
[1] slybrarian
[1] Van Ropen
[1] Yeangst
[2] veekie
[3] Broken25
[3] spudman
[3] Zeitgeist Blue
[-] butchock
[-] mori
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
[1] Muer'ci
[1] slybrarian
[1] Van Ropen
[1] Yeangst
[2] veekie
[3] Broken25
[3] spudman
[3] Zeitgeist Blue
[-] butchock
[-] mori
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
First Runner Up: Take tea with her, and perhaps ask her about her household situation, see just what she wants Kiralo to know.
[1] Random Member
[1] spudman
[1] Zeitgeist Blue
[2] Gingganz
[2] mori
[2] Muer'ci
[2] slybrarian
[2] Van Ropen
[3] Yeangst
[-] Broken25
[-] butchock
[-] Neptune
[-] veekie
[1] spudman
[1] Zeitgeist Blue
[2] Gingganz
[2] mori
[2] Muer'ci
[2] slybrarian
[2] Van Ropen
[3] Yeangst
[-] Broken25
[-] butchock
[-] Neptune
[-] veekie
Second Runner Up: Confront her with the knowledge that he knows that she is playing a game at the moment.
[1] butchock
[1] mori
[1] Neptune
[3] Van Ropen
[3] veekie
[-] Broken25
[-] Gingganz
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
[1] mori
[1] Neptune
[3] Van Ropen
[3] veekie
[-] Broken25
[-] Gingganz
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
Third Runner Up: Ask her about her hobbies and interests.
[2] butchock
[2] Neptune
[2] Random Member
[2] Zeitgeist Blue
[3] Gingganz
[3] Muer'ci
[3] slybrarian
[-] Broken25
[-] mori
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
[2] Neptune
[2] Random Member
[2] Zeitgeist Blue
[3] Gingganz
[3] Muer'ci
[3] slybrarian
[-] Broken25
[-] mori
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
Honorable Mention: Quiz her on recent political events...try to see whether she has opinions and whether she's willing to express them.
[1] veekie
[2] Broken25
[2] spudman
[2] Yeangst
[-] butchock
[-] Gingganz
[-] mori
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] Van Ropen
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
[2] Broken25
[2] spudman
[2] Yeangst
[-] butchock
[-] Gingganz
[-] mori
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] Van Ropen
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
Honorable Mention: Discuss religion, the gods, and the new Emperor.
[3] Neptune
[3] Random Member
[-] Broken25
[-] butchock
[-] Gingganz
[-] mori
[-] Muer'ci
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
[3] Random Member
[-] Broken25
[-] butchock
[-] Gingganz
[-] mori
[-] Muer'ci
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
Honorable Mention: Ask about the library, and try to shift it to philosophy and learned discourse in general. It's certainly a topic she is aware of.
[3] butchock
[3] mori
[-] Broken25
[-] Gingganz
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
[3] mori
[-] Broken25
[-] Gingganz
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
Honorable Mention: Talk to her about poetry and plays, see if she knows anything about such topics.
[1] Broken25
[-] butchock
[-] Gingganz
[-] mori
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
[-] butchock
[-] Gingganz
[-] mori
[-] Muer'ci
[-] Neptune
[-] Random Member
[-] slybrarian
[-] spudman
[-] Van Ropen
[-] veekie
[-] Yeangst
[-] Zeitgeist Blue
Total No. of Voters: 13
Definitely. Hard enough to keep track of things without adding a bunch of extraneous courtiers.
Also, I think I recall someone mentioning a map when I was binging and you saying you don't really have one, but even a blobby placeholder thing just showing the direction provinces are would he helpful keeping it all straight.
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Let's see. I have one, by which I mean I sketched it out on yellow paper and I look at it while I'm writing.
I hold it up and make calculations.
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Also, just to check it, can someone run votes by 'plan' or whatever? I mean, just to the extent that the order matters the most, you know?
I know this vote format is something of a mess, in terms of figuring out what it all means.
I know this vote format is something of a mess, in terms of figuring out what it all means.
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
You, er, can't. Not with ranked votes. At least to my knowledge?Also, just to check it, can someone run votes by 'plan' or whatever? I mean, just to the extent that the order matters the most, you know?
I know this vote format is something of a mess, in terms of figuring out what it all means.
If your intention was that "earlier" things were more valued though, then I believe that's how things are ranked...
Right, third runner up isn't included. Oops.
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Huh, damn. Alright, so, what Kiralo is going to do is:
First: Ask her about the matter of the laws, perhaps spark her to show her true interests in this and other topics.
Second: Take tea with her, and perhaps ask her about her household situation, see just what she wants Kiralo to know.
Finally: Confront her with the knowledge that he knows that she is playing a game at the moment.
If anyone objects or thinks that largely misses the consensus of the vote as it turned out, tell me now, because I'm going to start writing in the morning.
First: Ask her about the matter of the laws, perhaps spark her to show her true interests in this and other topics.
Second: Take tea with her, and perhaps ask her about her household situation, see just what she wants Kiralo to know.
Finally: Confront her with the knowledge that he knows that she is playing a game at the moment.
If anyone objects or thinks that largely misses the consensus of the vote as it turned out, tell me now, because I'm going to start writing in the morning.
Zeitgeist Blue
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Too be honest a bunch of different colored blobs with the province's name and the surrounding nations and seas would do wonders for our sense of direction. I still can't make heads or tails of the different Haris.Let's see. I have one, by which I mean I sketched it out on yellow paper and I look at it while I'm writing.
I hold it up and make calculations.
Tactical voting like that is foolish though, as that would just encourage those that picked confronting and hobbies to change their hobbies vote.
I'm fine with the intended vote as it stands anyway, although in the future @The Laurent I believe that for rank voting you're meant to be ranking all of the votes not merely some of them.
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Yeah, in the future I'd use the format of:
What do you do?
[List of Options]
"Please use plan format, such as...
Plan X
[X] First:
[X] Second:
[X] Last"
That wouldn't actually help you calculate who won though, you'd need to manually come up with what first/second/third means in terms of vote points in which case a similar result to the current vote tally would pop up.
And if you don't do that, you may as well just have normal voting and the most selected wins.
And if you don't do that, you may as well just have normal voting and the most selected wins.
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When it's by plan voting, it'd help. Because people would congregate to specific plans. The plan would be what mattered, not the order *among* plans.
For instance, if a certain option was popular in general but not on the plan that got the most votes, it wouldn't be done.
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I don't know how to take pictures to upload to the internet, though.
To note: Hari-Nat means "Near mountain" and is the northernmost province.
Hari-Su means "Near Southlands" and is the Southernmost province.
Hari-Os means...I bet you can guess, and is the Easternmost province and stretches along, bordering Nestirin, Hari-Su, Basrat, and Hirand.
Hari-Bueli, again, duh. It's the Westernmost, but it's sort of North-west. It is next to Yeadot and Xissand, as well as Rerin. (Xissand, to note, is right above Csrae.)
Have an image on your phone/computer hard drive, go to an imaging site such as imgur, go to the upload or new post section, and either post the image link if it's already on the internet (and you want to change the resolution for another purpose for example) or browse your computer until you find the image file and click ok.
Or get a paint/drawing program such as paint.net, and draw the map onto that. Then save, and do the above.
Or get a paint/drawing program such as paint.net, and draw the map onto that. Then save, and do the above.
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Yeah, I have to get a camera or something to put it on my phone or computer. Except I don't have a phone with a camera, I'd have to borrow it and...hrm, we'll see.
I edited the post above, but if it's just a simple map it'll probably only take a couple minutes in a drawing program on a computer so you could just use paint.net .
OOC: Blobby But Basically Accurate-ish Map
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Well...
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Note: The blank space between Provinces is because I was drawing freehand and suck at drawing. There aren't, like, hundreds (or thousands upon thousands) of miles of no man's land between the provinces.
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Better than Creation map, then!
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Oh, and the thing I wrote on the west side below the arrow to Bueli is 'Spiritless Wastes.' There's this entire area that's mostly infertile in which there are no native spirits. It's bad ground, and pretty much everyone regards it as unholy or questionable, and so nobody actually 'owns' it. It's what separates Bueli from the Southlands on that side.
...actually, I've noticed that in my world/map design, I like creating horrific badlands that might well be the result of some cosmic evil or great human hubris so far in the past that nobody even remembers it.
...actually, I've noticed that in my world/map design, I like creating horrific badlands that might well be the result of some cosmic evil or great human hubris so far in the past that nobody even remembers it.
Random Member
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Thanks, that actually helps alot.
Question: Do Rerin and Hirand border eachother? It's kinda unclear and I seem to remember Basrat not bordering Csrae, or the Prince not being able to march troops directly into Csrae atleast.
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Rerin? No, that's the long thin one on the other side of things. And, here's the part where the map sorta fails. There's a very thin border, or rather there's a spot where a good runner could play a game of 'running through four Provinces in a single day'. Irit, Hirand, Basrat, and the slimmest sliver of Csrae (so slim that honestly outside of actual maps the people there don't think of themselves as Csraean in any particular way) all touch or are around that spot. But it's not good land/a good march if you're trying to get to the capital, and it's much easier to go through Irit or Hirand and loop around slightly to miss some difficult and obvious approaches.
So the ideal approach would be to swing through the Hirand grasslands and crops and farms and fields and rivers, burning and looting as you go, or up and around and through the valleys of Irit...which is why Irit being in chaos and unable to defend itself is a great thing for the Prince.
Random Member
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Sorry, meant to say Irit. Thanks.