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Avengers: Endgame

Marlin said:
Okay, then how far could console generations advance in 5 years inside a world where a great deal of people vanished? 6 generations with no bugs worked on to improve on the console? 12 generations?
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Given the usual console generation time cycle I'd say one generation, with another nearing release possible though less likely. We're just on the cusp of the 9th generation IRL (aka, had eight complete generations) and the industry goes back to 1977, aka 8 generations over 42 years, or an average of five years three months per generation.

So, one new generation release during the timeskip, another one in the pipeline although the interval between the one during the skip and the one after that is probably going to be a bit longer than usual.
 
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Gore17 said:
I don't remember this?
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It was the end of the Endgame movie. Remember that scene where Peter returns to his school and meets Ned in the hallway? During that scene, Ned talks. I do not remember the specifics anymore. Just that Ned remarked about tech console advancement instead of any of the other possible things he could have said to Peter. Ned saying what he did showed he had not been on Earth for many years, and already had a small timeskip to adjust to the world.

Zap Rowsdower said:
Given the usual console generation time cycle I'd say one generation, with another nearing release possible. We're just on the cusp of the 9th generation IRL (aka, had eight complete generations) and the industry goes back to 1977, aka 8 generations over 42 years, or an average of five years three months per generation.
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Nice to know. You did see Endgame? Can you remember how many generations in console advancement Ned said had passed, my memory is a bit hazy about it. I want to say he said 5 to 6 console generations had passed, but my memory is hazy.
 
Marlin said:
It was the end of the Endgame movie. Remember that scene where Peter returns to his school and meets Ned in the hallway? During that scene, Ned talks. I do not remember the specifics anymore. Just that Ned remarked about tech console advancement instead of any of the other possible things he could have said to Peter. Ned saying what he did showed he had not been on Earth for many years, and already had a small timeskip to adjust to the world.

Nice to know. You did see Endgame? Can you remember how many generations in console advancement Ned said had passed, my memory is a bit hazy about it. I want to say he said 5 to 6 console generations had passed, but my memory is hazy.
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Honestly five or six generations is absurd by any standard; it's far more likely to be a thoughtless ad lib or an uninformed writer than any actual statement on the post-snap world. And I highly doubt it reflects anything substantial about the world either; I'd wager any consoles shown in future films will just be contemporary real world ones.
 
Marlin said:
It was the end of the Endgame movie. Remember that scene where Peter returns to his school and meets Ned in the hallway? During that scene, Ned talks. I do not remember the specifics anymore. Just that Ned remarked about tech console advancement instead of any of the other possible things he could have said to Peter. Ned saying what he did showed he had not been on Earth for many years, and already had a small timeskip to adjust to the world.

Nice to know. You did see Endgame? Can you remember how many generations in console advancement Ned said had passed, my memory is a bit hazy about it. I want to say he said 5 to 6 console generations had passed, but my memory is hazy.
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I did and I don't recall this at all. They just hug.
 
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Marlin said:
It was the end of the Endgame movie. Remember that scene where Peter returns to his school and meets Ned in the hallway? During that scene, Ned talks. I do not remember the specifics anymore. Just that Ned remarked about tech console advancement instead of any of the other possible things he could have said to Peter. Ned saying what he did showed he had not been on Earth for many years, and already had a small timeskip to adjust to the world.

Nice to know. You did see Endgame? Can you remember how many generations in console advancement Ned said had passed, my memory is a bit hazy about it. I want to say he said 5 to 6 console generations had passed, but my memory is hazy.
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This doesn't happen - we only see Peter and Ned hug it out in the hallway of their school. That's it, there's not even dialogue, just music.
 
Marlin said:
It was the end of the Endgame movie. Remember that scene where Peter returns to his school and meets Ned in the hallway? During that scene, Ned talks. I do not remember the specifics anymore. Just that Ned remarked about tech console advancement instead of any of the other possible things he could have said to Peter. Ned saying what he did showed he had not been on Earth for many years, and already had a small timeskip to adjust to the world.
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...I'm not sure what version you were watching, but absolutely nothing could be heard from them when I watched it. Assuming this is correct, was there different versions, like how Steve Rogers has different lists in Winter Soldier? :confused:
 
Arthur Frayn said:
This doesn't happen - we only see Peter and Ned hug it out in the hallway of their school. That's it, there's not even dialogue, just music.
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There is dialogue over the shot IIRC, but it's Tony's last message -- it's part of that big montage. Peter and Ned say literally nothing, it's just them seeing each other and hugging it out in the hallway.
 
Mal-3 said:
There is dialogue over the shot IIRC, but it's Tony's last message -- it's part of that big montage. Peter and Ned say literally nothing, it's just them seeing each other and hugging it out in the hallway.
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Ah yeah, you're right. But there's for sure no dialogue between Peter and Ned; I think the shot itself doesn't last more than a couple of seconds.
 
I think @Marlin is just experiencing the Mandela effect, and saw an alternate reality version of the film and has accidentally found his way into our world.
 
What am I remembering? Cause I'm not sure anymore. Either it was in endgame, or it was in a far from home trailer. And I don't think it was in a spider-man far from home trailer. I'm just so confused at how I somehow remember Ned speaking to Peter about the time gap from the snap.
 
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Marlin said:
What am I remembering? Cause I'm not sure anymore. Either it was in endgame, or it was in a far from home trailer. And I don't think it was in a spider-man far from home trailer. I'm just so confused at how I somehow remember Ned speaking to Peter about the time gap from the snap.
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Have you recently experienced any lapses in time or a brief blackout? These often indicate a timeline collapse and the merging of your old reality with the new one.
 
VolantRedX said:
Have you recently experienced any lapses in time or a brief blackout? These often indicate a timeline collapse and the merging of your old reality with the new one.
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It doesn't really help that I can't refresh my memory about that scene without going to the theatre because all the ending clips are focused on "The Time-travel controversy", "Tony's Funeral", and "Final Battle". Limiting any and all clips of the Ned and Peter meeting scene to faulty bad shots that cover the whole scene, and it's transference into the next scene.

I see one shot of them handshaking, another shot has them hugging. One has their mouths move and noise in the background. Just. hmmmmm. Memory has betrayed me.
 
Marlin said:
It doesn't really help that I can't refresh my memory about that scene without going to the theatre because all the ending clips are focused on "The Time-travel controversy", "Tony's Funeral", and "Final Battle". Limiting any and all clips of the Ned and Peter meeting scene to faulty bad shots that cover the whole scene, and it's transference into the next scene.

I see one shot of them handshaking, another shot has them hugging. One has their mouths move and noise in the background. Just. hmmmmm. Memory has betrayed me.
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Is it 'Berenstein' or 'Bearenstain'?
 
Does anyone else want this as a 'thing' ion the movies from the lady Avengers team-up? :D
 
Shanejayell said:
Does anyone else want this as a 'thing' ion the movies from the lady Avengers team-up? :D
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If we got a mostly female Avengers for A5, a half-dozen female characters + a token dude, I'd be very happy indeed. I know it's too much to hope for that we get more female-led films in the next phase, but A5 won't be for another four or five years. It would also post-legitimize the A-Force scene in Endgame.

Like - Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, Queen Valkyrie, the Wasp, hopefully She-Hulk, hopefully one of the female Iron-Man equivalents, and boy wonder Spider-man, all led by Janet Van Dyne.

Any good female villains to use?

chibipoe said:
If you want to talk about 'Everyone else in this picture is worthless, then you have Phoenix Host Jean Grey in that picture.
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From the films, Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel are already shown as being forces of nature. The villain needs to be strong like that, or someone who can't be defeated by strength.
 
I was thinking. Past!Nebula loyalty to Thanos made no sense. Her other version was very quick to turn on Thanos when Ronan gave her the chance.

Her Present!self and Past!Gamora were giving her the same chance to turn on Thanos.
 
Shanejayell said:
Does anyone else want this as a 'thing' ion the movies from the lady Avengers team-up? :D
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I'd love an A-Force movie!

And I'm mildly salty that comic got derailed by events (among the main cast; Dazzler, mutant affected by inhuman cloud. Medusa, inhuman. She-Hulk and Carol, involved in CW2. That's the majority of the core members).
 
Sabertooth said:
I was thinking. Past!Nebula loyalty to Thanos made no sense. Her other version was very quick to turn on Thanos when Ronan gave her the chance.

Her Present!self and Past!Gamora were giving her the same chance to turn on Thanos.
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Her loyalty seemed predicated on her believing she couldn't escape Thanos, that he was so powerful that the safest place in the universe was to let herself be used and abused by him, because at least he wasn't killing her.

Then Gamora decided to leave Thanos in GotGv1, and managed to avoid being captured again through to GotGv2, when we got epic sister fight. So Nebula knew it was possible, but still her main goal was to kill Thanos, while Gamora seemed to prefer avoiding him.

past!Nebula met now!Nebula, a version of herself that escaped, failed in an attempt to kill Thanos and was captured, escaped a second time, failed in a second attempt to kill Thanos, and was then captured a second time on her mission to the past. She also heard the true story of how Thanos won. I think now!Nebula and past!Gamora could have convinced her to betray Thanos, but there wasn't time. past!Gamora was only a few weeks from leaving Thanos in her arc, and she got to hear the story of how she successfully escaped.
 
petros said:
Her loyalty seemed predicated on her believing she couldn't escape Thanos, that he was so powerful that the safest place in the universe was to let herself be used and abused by him, because at least he wasn't killing her.

Then Gamora decided to leave Thanos in GotGv1, and managed to avoid being captured again through to GotGv2, when we got epic sister fight. So Nebula knew it was possible, but still her main goal was to kill Thanos, while Gamora seemed to prefer avoiding him.

past!Nebula met now!Nebula, a version of herself that escaped, failed in an attempt to kill Thanos and was captured, escaped a second time, failed in a second attempt to kill Thanos, and was then captured a second time on her mission to the past. She also heard the true story of how Thanos won. I think now!Nebula and past!Gamora could have convinced her to betray Thanos, but there wasn't time. past!Gamora was only a few weeks from leaving Thanos in her arc, and she got to hear the story of how she successfully escaped.
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But as I said, the present!Nebula before her character growth turned on Thanos because she saw him as a means to kill Thanos. Flash foward and her sister and another Nebula are telling past!Nebula that Thanos can be defeated, she can have ver vengeance. So why didn't she turned?
 
Sabertooth said:
But as I said, the present!Nebula before her character growth turned on Thanos because she saw him as a means to kill Thanos. Flash foward and her sister and another Nebula are telling past!Nebula that Thanos can be defeated, she can have ver vengeance. So why didn't she turned?
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Indeed. But present!Nebula had to actually defeat Gamora in an honest fight in order to get into the right mindset to fully oppose Thanos. Something equivalent in magnitude to that wasn't going to happen to past!Nebula in the few minutes she spent in the past, and present!Nebula knew it. Even so I think she'd have turned on him if she had five extra minutes to think about it.

past!Nebula is still right under Thanos' thumb, and so far as she knew, he has present!Nebula in a cage, and he's about to undo his own future defeat.
 
I mean, I think Past Nebula did actually turn. In that she wanted to oppose Thanos, but didn't think she would actually be able to go through with opposing him for real because she's still mentally under his dominion. So she commits suicide by... uh... self instead. that's how I take the "he won't let me" line.

I mean, it's kinda dark and doesn't sit entirely right with me, but it makes sense. It kinda helps to reverse the whole Thanos is a good dad really honest shit but still.
 
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Reveen said:
I mean, I think Past Nebula did actually turn. In that she wanted to oppose Thanos, but didn't think she would actually be able to go through with opposing him for real because she's still mentally under his dominion. So she commits suicide by... uh... self instead. that's how I take the "he won't let me" line.

I mean, it's kinda dark and doesn't sit entirely right with me, but it makes sense.
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It's SUPER dark. Thanos is an abusive parent trying to adopt the whole universe.
 
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