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The hussars move 3 Spaces in the time it takes the infantry one, so the enemy would be out of attack range once the 200th moves forward once and only goes farther after that
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The hussars move 3 Spaces in the time it takes the infantry one, so the enemy would be out of attack range once the 200th moves forward once and only goes farther after that
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I don't think that's how it works? Like that's real world logic, but I thought the game logic was that everyone moves 1 tile at a time and disputed tiles are determined by remaining movement. Photo can correct me on this though.
In any case, I guess firing is safer. Definitely not Bracing when there's so much opportunity to go around, though.
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proabably its possible, but its unlikely and they will get 1/2 cohesion from routing our unit back too.
But the thing is, bracing and ready firing 200m does the same damage unless the enemy doesnt charge our halflings, bracing just means that we take less damage(though they will likely rout anyway if both attack the halflings, but there will be less casualties
yeah, the 200th should do something aggressive, im just not sure if its a medium range shot or charge, i think the 19th should be bracing
E: wait, the 19th will be hidden?
Can they still be charged?
the 108 should be charging E,E,NW against one of them to be placed in position to intercept charges agianst the artillery and the west elves still ready a charge i think, but if the 19th cant get charged it does want to ready fire
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Correct. If the 200th Charge the Hussars, they will most likely catch them unless they happen to Move E->E->SE (or go back up). The Lancers on the other hand are almost certainly going to escape any Charge by them, unless they come directly closer.
They are, but in practice the enemy knows that they are somewhere in that Woods Hex. They're not likely to run directly at them to be ambushed, and they can just attack that Hex on the suspicion that something's there.
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Thanks for the clarification, I misunderstood how it works then. We probably want to charge the hussars then, yeah. Best case theyll be charging the 200th too but well very likely catch them either way and Kleber continues his cavalry killing streak
Will a bracing counterattack still get ambush advantage?
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Yes. I assume that you're thinking of if the Lancers in the west Charge the Woods Hex that the 19th is in. Knowing where the enemy is generally doesn't stop them from catching you off-guard in the actual clash at close quarters.
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Current plan idea?
[]Plan:
-[] 200th Hob: Charge NE, against 2nd Hussars
-[] 72nd Hum: MOVE NW
-[] 148th Hum: MOVE NE
-[] 42nd Elv: READY CHARGE W, NW
-[] 45th Elv: MOVE NW,NE
-[] 16th Half: MOVE NE, NE
-[] 19th Half Pfd: BRACE
-[] 28th Half Pfd: SHOOT 2nd Lancers
-[] 55th Elv Hsr: CHARGE 2nd Lancers, Move towards Chateau de Camfront after
-[] 108th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,NE against the lancer/hussars
-[] 13th Hob Lan: CHARGE E,E,E,NE,NW against 2nd Lancers
-[] 84th Elv Art: READY FIRE NW, NE (700m)
-[] 31st Elv Art: FIRE at 1st Elven Volunteers
-[] 5th Hob H. Art: Set Up(with Grapeshot)
-[] HQ: Move NE
The difference between bracing or not if both western cavalry charge the pathfinders is around 30 casualties, but maybe more important, not bracing means that the chance to rout is somewhere around 80%, while bracing means that its around 30% (the 19th has 9 Cohesion).
wait, @Photomajig , do lancers lose both charge advantages if their target braces?
[]Plan:
-[] 200th Hob: Charge NE, against 2nd Hussars
-[] 72nd Hum: MOVE NW
-[] 148th Hum: MOVE NE
-[] 42nd Elv: READY CHARGE W, NW
-[] 45th Elv: MOVE NW,NE
-[] 16th Half: MOVE NE, NE
-[] 19th Half Pfd: BRACE
-[] 28th Half Pfd: SHOOT 2nd Lancers
-[] 55th Elv Hsr: CHARGE 2nd Lancers, Move towards Chateau de Camfront after
-[] 108th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,NE against the lancer/hussars
-[] 13th Hob Lan: CHARGE E,E,E,NE,NW against 2nd Lancers
-[] 84th Elv Art: READY FIRE NW, NE (700m)
-[] 31st Elv Art: FIRE at 1st Elven Volunteers
-[] 5th Hob H. Art: Set Up(with Grapeshot)
-[] HQ: Move NE
The difference between bracing or not if both western cavalry charge the pathfinders is around 30 casualties, but maybe more important, not bracing means that the chance to rout is somewhere around 80%, while bracing means that its around 30% (the 19th has 9 Cohesion).
wait, @Photomajig , do lancers lose both charge advantages if their target braces?
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Current plan idea?
[]Plan:
-[] 200th Hob: Charge E, against 2nd Hussars
-[] 72nd Hum: MOVE NW
-[] 148th Hum: MOVE NE
-[] 42nd Elv: READY CHARGE W, NW
-[] 45th Elv: MOVE NW,NE
-[] 16th Half: MOVE NE, NE
-[] 19th Half Pfd: BRACE
-[] 28th Half Pfd: SHOOT 2nd Lancers
-[] 55th Elv Hsr: CHARGE 2nd Lancers, Move towards Chateau de Camfront after
-[] 108th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,NE against the lancer/hussars
-[] 13th Hob Lan: CHARGE E,E,E,NE,NW against 2nd Lancers
-[] 84th Elv Art: READY FIRE NW, NE (700m)
-[] 31st Elv Art: READY FIRE W, NW (700m)
-[] 5th Hob H. Art: Set Up(with Grapeshot)
-[] HQ: Move NE
The difference between bracing or not if both western cavalry charge the pathfinders is around 30 casualties, but maybe more important, not bracing means that the chance to rout is somewhere around 80%, while bracing means that its around 30% (the 19th has 9 Cohesion).
wait, @Photomajig , do lancers lose both charge advantages if their target braces?
Question, for the 31st shouldn't we just target fire the 1st Elven Infantry? Or whatnot? The one we know is Unsteady so that even if we deal a comparatively glancing blow (thanks to an incompetent CO) it'll matter a bit more.
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On the more positive side, Liberte's Inspiring trait, @NSchwerte , is legitimately great on Human Infantry, because they have so much more Cohesion so they can stand up to the hard blows and come back from it over time.
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Also, I might have missed it earlier, but did we make a decision on what to do with those monks or is that still in the air?Current plan idea?
[]Plan:
-[] 200th Hob: Charge E, against 2nd Hussars
-[] 72nd Hum: MOVE NW
-[] 148th Hum: MOVE NE
-[] 42nd Elv: READY CHARGE W, NW
-[] 45th Elv: MOVE NW,NE
-[] 16th Half: MOVE NE, NE
-[] 19th Half Pfd: BRACE
-[] 28th Half Pfd: SHOOT 2nd Lancers
-[] 55th Elv Hsr: CHARGE 2nd Lancers, Move towards Chateau de Camfront after
-[] 108th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,NE against the lancer/hussars
-[] 13th Hob Lan: CHARGE E,E,E,NE,NW against 2nd Lancers
-[] 84th Elv Art: READY FIRE NW, NE (700m)
-[] 31st Elv Art: FIRE at 1st Elven Volunteers
-[] 5th Hob H. Art: Set Up(with Grapeshot)
-[] HQ: Move NE
The difference between bracing or not if both western cavalry charge the pathfinders is around 30 casualties, but maybe more important, not bracing means that the chance to rout is somewhere around 80%, while bracing means that its around 30% (the 19th has 9 Cohesion).
wait, @Photomajig , do lancers lose both charge advantages if their target braces?
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I think you mean NE, because the lake is to the immediate east.
This is great quest, really interesting! Long live the Revolution!
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Yeah, Inspiring is a great trait, being a better optimist which is already good. I am less certain that human regiments are the best users of it, hobs get supply free cohesion from it for example, but tbh its just so great that ill always love getting it on an regiment.
Currently i am assuming that we are grapeshotting them, if we get royalist correspondence we can convinvingly argue that they actually are in league with the king (and maybe they even are, why did they deliberatly hide?). And at least the constitutionalists will have bigger problems soon
yeah
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Vive La ... *checks notes* Arné!!!
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[X] A whiff of grapeshot shall clear the way.
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Yeah, an entire turn of waiting in this battle is legitimately likely to be fatal, and these mofos literally went and fucking hid to pop out at us. If we need to appease the Consulars and can't make them buy the "monks are monarchists and backwards" stuff, we can just try to shape the release of the royalist information... provided we win and capture it, in such a way as to mollify them.
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Currently I am planning to have the eastern hussars charge a cavalry and go forward northwards afterwards. In the best case they reach on of the village tiles northeast.
That means that we will have a threat against their hq/artillery next turn.
That will mean that they can't help in the south but tbh I think it's worth
That means that we will have a threat against their hq/artillery next turn.
That will mean that they can't help in the south but tbh I think it's worth
[X] A whiff of grapeshot shall clear the way. These monks should have cleared out days ago. Their conduct shows that they are in league with the enemy. Let them prove their faith and devotion to your cannons instead. The monks will be dispersed and the 5th's deployment is not delayed. However, your Relation with the Constitutionalist and Consular factions may fall after the battle if word gets out.
We don't have a turn to waste. Napoleon them.
We don't have a turn to waste. Napoleon them.
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[X]Plan: Vive La Arné!
-[X] A whiff of grapeshot shall clear the way.
-[X] 200th Hob: Charge NE, against 2nd Hussars
-[X] 72nd Hum: MOVE NW
-[X] 148th Hum: MOVE NE
-[X] 42nd Elv: READY CHARGE W, NW; 300m
-[X] 45th Elv: MOVE NW,NE
-[X] 16th Half: MOVE NE, NE
-[X] 19th Half Pfd: BRACE
-[X] 28th Half Pfd: Ready Fire E, 400m
-[X] 55th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,E,E,NE,NW,NW Charge 2nd Lancers, move towards nothern village tiles and enter if possible
-[X] 108th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,NE, Charge 1st Hussars, Move towards SW of the forest after
-[X] 13th Hob Lan: CHARGE E,E,E,NE,NW against 2nd Lancers, SE,SW
-[X] 84th Elv Art: READY FIRE NW, NE (700m)
-[X] 31st Elv Art: FIRE at 1st Elven Volunteers
-[X] 5th Hob H. Art: Set Up
-[X] HQ: Move NE
@Photomajig do the orders for the 108th work? Im assuming that they will be moving so specifiying the charging path gets useless after a while, but if they do move and our hussars take less moves to charge i want them to move more than the single movement required if the lancers dont move
-[X] A whiff of grapeshot shall clear the way.
-[X] 200th Hob: Charge NE, against 2nd Hussars
-[X] 72nd Hum: MOVE NW
-[X] 148th Hum: MOVE NE
-[X] 42nd Elv: READY CHARGE W, NW; 300m
-[X] 45th Elv: MOVE NW,NE
-[X] 16th Half: MOVE NE, NE
-[X] 19th Half Pfd: BRACE
-[X] 28th Half Pfd: Ready Fire E, 400m
-[X] 55th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,E,E,NE,NW,NW Charge 2nd Lancers, move towards nothern village tiles and enter if possible
-[X] 108th Elv Hsr: CHARGE E,E,NE, Charge 1st Hussars, Move towards SW of the forest after
-[X] 13th Hob Lan: CHARGE E,E,E,NE,NW against 2nd Lancers, SE,SW
-[X] 84th Elv Art: READY FIRE NW, NE (700m)
-[X] 31st Elv Art: FIRE at 1st Elven Volunteers
-[X] 5th Hob H. Art: Set Up
-[X] HQ: Move NE
@Photomajig do the orders for the 108th work? Im assuming that they will be moving so specifiying the charging path gets useless after a while, but if they do move and our hussars take less moves to charge i want them to move more than the single movement required if the lancers dont move
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Yes, that works fine. And as for your earlier question on if Bracing negates both Charge Advantages that Lancers get - yes, it does.
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Why is the 42nd prepping a charge? Aren't they better off Bracing, if the Lancers come for them? The Pathfinders are Hidden, so they're the obvious target.
And since the Pathfinders are Hidden, shouldn't they be doing something like Readying Fire?
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Because the enemy knows where our pathfinders are so they can charge them, which makes the halflings the obvious target for a charge. And we need to get as much damage our against the cavalry as we can.
The 42nd has terrible lines for shooting which is why i have them charge.
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Looks good to me based on the rules adjudications so far. We're sure the 28th Half Pfd can see the 2nd Lancers, right? I don't trust myself with a straightedge anymore.
Ah ah, wait, no. If we don't charge the 1st Hussars and get in their way they can reach the artillery without entering their firing arc. We need to use the 108th to tie them up.
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They're listed as Hidden, so no, they shouldn't know and be able to charge them. Am I correct, @Photomajig, or just misunderstanding?