Along Came a Spider or How to be a Hero(Spider-Man/Worm)


Don't worry. My Spider-Man quest is still going to be about Spider-Man. He has a GL ring, yes. He doesn't know fully what it's capabilities or limits are, so he's going to largely rely on his usual powers. The ring will be used for really big fights and all, but not for every-day stuff, or even fights with normal supervillains.

Edit: Further, just because Peter CAN use it doesn't mean nobody else can, nor does it mean he has to. It's an option, and not a relevant one right away.
 
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So, instead of a power up, it's more like an ultimate last resort trump card?

Sort-of. For Peter, yes. He can put it on and figure out the basics. He won't be time-traveling with it, or tearing holes in the space-time continuum. He won't be using it to make mad amounts of money by mining asteroids. Because he has no clue that is something that can be done with the ring. Hell, he doesn't even know it'll let him survive space. But in an emergency, if he has the ring on, it will act. Create a shield larger than he thought possible, or turn him invisible, or absorb an energy blast. He can't do anything with it he doesn't know the ring is capable of. Which at the start... He doesn't know much of that.

Others would have an easier time figuring powers out(provided they weren't trying to figure out a function similar to powers they already have, if any). While Peter would dodge an incoming attack, thus meaning the ring wouldn't need to shield him, or hide on a ceiling thus meaning it wouldn't need to make him invisible, they don't have those advantages. So they would learn quicker through necessity.

That said, certain persistent effects would always be on for anyone wearing it. Mostly just the translator.
 
Sort-of. For Peter, yes. He can put it on and figure out the basics. He won't be time-traveling with it, or tearing holes in the space-time continuum. He won't be using it to make mad amounts of money by mining asteroids. Because he has no clue that is something that can be done with the ring. Hell, he doesn't even know it'll let him survive space. But in an emergency, if he has the ring on, it will act. Create a shield larger than he thought possible, or turn him invisible, or absorb an energy blast. He can't do anything with it he doesn't know the ring is capable of. Which at the start... He doesn't know much of that.

Others would have an easier time figuring powers out(provided they weren't trying to figure out a function similar to powers they already have, if any). While Peter would dodge an incoming attack, thus meaning the ring wouldn't need to shield him, or hide on a ceiling thus meaning it wouldn't need to make him invisible, they don't have those advantages. So they would learn quicker through necessity.

That said, certain persistent effects would always be on for anyone wearing it. Mostly just the translator.

All he has to do is ask what the thing can do and the AI in the ring should give him at least basic information; presumably Strange wouldn't give him a ring that is crippled by not having an AI so the computer on his finger should give him at least some information to go on.

EDIT: And I just mean asking in general; thinking aloud (which he has done a lot in various comics) and the ring should pipe up with some degree of information.
 
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All he has to do is ask what the thing can do and the AI in the ring should give him at least basic information; presumably Strange wouldn't give him a ring that is crippled by not having an AI so the computer on his finger should give him at least some information to go on.

EDIT: And I just mean asking in general; thinking aloud (which he has done a lot in various comics) and the ring should pipe up with some degree of information.

Why would he ask it anything? It's a ring. Spider-Man knows rings don't talk. Unless you're going insane.
 
Why would he ask it anything? It's a ring. Spider-Man knows rings don't talk. Unless you're going insane.
He comes from a world that has AIs and Robots and telepaths and ghosts. A talking ring is hardly out of the ordinary. A talking ring that's a super weapon with a built in AI isn't even all that out of the ordinary.

I mean, I suppose you could intentionally cripple the ring by giving it the single least forthcoming ring AI, but... Peter isn't stupid. And since the voters want a GL ring, they'll contrive a way to get more info out of it. I know I will.
 
He doesn't have to directly address the ring for it to answer though. Just speak.

Sure. When wearing the ring. And a question that it would answer. It could take a while for those two to coincide.

Basically, he is not going to be asking what it can do any time soon and getting a full list. This is not Peter Parker, Green Lantern of Earth Bet. It's Spider-Man on Earth Bet, who just happens to have a ring that can do some cool stuff on occasion. He's not sure what all that cool stuff is, but it can do it! Also, he may not be comfortable with the idea of a ring capable of thought with all those powers if he finds out. Of an AI controlling them.

I get that isn't as fun and exciting and broken as the character knowing everything there is to know about having a ring. But if I wanted to run a GL/Worm crossover I'd have run a GL/Worm crossover. The ring was originally going to be a choice that you could only give to someone. I changed it thinking that people would complain if Peter didn't have the option to use it himself.
 
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Arrival 1.1
Twists of Fate: 1
Parker Luck: 2


After a few minutes to adjust to my new surroundings I stood and took stock of myself instead. Peter Parker. Twenty years old, check. Dressed in normal civilian clothes, check. Comforting feel of costume under clothes, check. A bag containing the items Dr. Strange promised, check. Speaking of...

I swung my backpack off of my shoulder and unzipped it, taking a look inside. A change of clothes and spare costume... Thank you Sorcerer Supreme. And... An odd looking lantern, glowing green, with a ring atop it. Huh. I took the ring out and studied it, finding it largely unremarkable. Just a green ring of some sort of metal with a light under an odd symbol on it. Another glance at the lantern in the bag showed a note attached.

Spider-Man,

This ring is from another world full of superheroes. I am not certain what it's powers are in full. I do know that it has a reserve of power, that must be recharged from the lantern that accompanied it, and that it's effects are fueled by willpower. The greater the will of the wearer, the more powerful the ring's effects are. While someone of weak will could maybe make a single brick, someone strong of will could create a wall.


"Sooo... It's a ring that harnesses the amazing power of stubbornness. Good to know." Shaking my head I stowed the ring back in the bag with the lantern before closing the bag up and slipping out of the alley I'd been in. The Sorcerer Supreme had said I would end up in some place called Brockton Bay. Or as Obi-Wan says, a 'hive of scum and villainy'. Sounds like home.

But the good Doctor was a bit sparse on details as to when I would arrive. So as I wandered down the streets I kept my eyes peeled for a calendar or bank sign showing the date. I couldn't find one. So instead I made my way to an internet cafe I'd spotted in my wandering. Fishing some cash out of my thin wallet I bought a bit of time on a computer. Then I sat down and first checked the date. January 18th, 2011.

Now Dr. Strange didn't give me a whole lot of information about how the worlds were going to end. He didn't even tell me what the main threat was, as his magics apparently had issues discerning that. Just that it was there and very real. But he did fill me in on a few key points. The first is that a young woman named Taylor Hebert was going to have something happen to her on this day to cause her to gain powers. I even knew where, roughly. In theory. Maybe a map wouldn't be amiss.

It was still early morning by that point, and her issue didn't occur until later in the day. So I had time to research this world a bit, learning about the Protectorate and the PRT, which really reminded me of S.H.I.E.L.D and the Avengers, and about Brockton Bay in general. It really is a hive of scum and villainy.

As I neared running out of time I found and memorized a street map of Brockton Bay, specifically routes to Winslow High School, and the place they call the Rig. Then I set out to...

[ ] Go help Taylor, requires write-in of explanation as to why Peter went there. Taylor still triggers.

[ ] From what Dr. Strange said she survives, and you have more pressing things to do. Like go to this Protectorate and see about getting a job and housing with them.
 
Don't worry. My Spider-Man quest is still going to be about Spider-Man. He has a GL ring, yes. He doesn't know fully what it's capabilities or limits are, so he's going to largely rely on his usual powers. The ring will be used for really big fights and all, but not for every-day stuff, or even fights with normal supervillains.

Edit: Further, just because Peter CAN use it doesn't mean nobody else can, nor does it mean he has to. It's an option, and not a relevant one right away.
No way,We will use the one ring.We take 2 parker luck for it.

I will not allow Taylor fandom to ruin our chance.
 
[X] From what Dr. Strange said she survives, and you have more pressing things to do. Like go to this Protectorate and see about getting a job and housing with them.

I don't see a reason for us to be in a High School. 20 year old creeper ahoy. That and we can't stop the lockering from happening anyways. Maaaybe end it sooner, but still a lot of questions brought up.

That and I'm bad at writing in things! :oops:

I'm basing a lot of my <insert color here> lantern knowledge from With This Ring. And that deal with the orange ring mostly. So I'm sure it varies. Can't you lock a ring to one owner till that owner is dead or something, or you authorize another user? Meh idle thoughts.
 
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[X] From what Dr. Strange said she survives, and you have more pressing things to do. Like go to this Protectorate and see about getting a job and housing with them.
--[X] Put the ring on when we put on your mask. The Sorcerer Supreme thought it would help you, so you might as well use it.
 
[X] From what Dr. Strange said she survives, and you have more pressing things to do. Like go to this Protectorate and see about getting a job and housing with them.
 
[X] From what Dr. Strange said she survives, and you have more pressing things to do. Like go to this Protectorate and see about getting a job and housing with them.
--[X] Put the ring on when we put on your mask. The Sorcerer Supreme thought it would help you, so you might as well use it.
 
They voted for it, they are going to find a way to use it. If you didn't want this to turn into a generic GL Quest, you shouldn't have given them the option.
 
Lots of reasons why anyone, Spider-Man in specific, might want to try to help.
  • Even in the Marvel universe, gaining superpowers can be a very traumatic or dangerous experience, not just for the person gaining them but for others. Like that one who accidentally killed his dad. I think it was Wither. We should be on hand to help if that happens.
  • All we know from Strange is that she'll "survive." Spider-Man, more than anyone, knows how little that tells us of what happens to her; for all we know, she'll have her own "Uncle Ben moment" that he could easily prevent. And if there's anyone who can immediately point to getting superpowers as the moment life started hating him, it's Spider-Man.
  • Given all the stuff that happened to him, Peter probably would've given a lot to have had someone to help him out in his early days of costumed heroism. He'll remember that feeling, too.
  • For Strange to even bring her up, obviously she'll be important. Pragmatically speaking, this is a good way to get in the good graces of someone who could be important later. Even if she isn't, she's still a kid with superpowers who might be well-disposed towards him; not something to sneeze at.
  • With great power comes great responsibility. If she's going to be in immediate need of his help (and don't say the fact that she "survives" this means she doesn't; an old lady being mugged usually isn't going to die as a result, either), and then maybe in need of some guidance, Peter should at least try to give it.
  • We'll be taking perhaps a few hours (likely just one or two, depending), maybe a day at the absolute most, out of our day doing this. Did Strange give any indication that doom was coming within the next week or so? Because otherwise I'm pretty sure we can afford the setback.
 
Lots of reasons why anyone, Spider-Man in specific, might want to try to help.
  • We'll be taking perhaps a few hours (likely just one or two, depending), maybe a day at the absolute most, out of our day doing this. Did Strange give any indication that doom was coming within the next week or so? Because otherwise I'm pretty sure we can afford the setback.


Quite the opposite, really

The worlds are ending. And I have two years to stop it.

They voted for it, they are going to find a way to use it. If you didn't want this to turn into a generic GL Quest, you shouldn't have given them the option.

I don't mind them using it. They won't be capable of breaking everything with it. That I'm not okay with. If you want a quest of mine where you can break the setting, that's what the HP/Gamer quest is for. Since The Gamer is kinda good at breaking things.
 
I don't mind them using it. They won't be capable of breaking everything with it. That I'm not okay with. If you want a quest of mine where you can break the setting, that's what the HP/Gamer quest is for. Since The Gamer is kinda good at breaking things.

One good explanation is that, while Spider-Man definitely has a lot of willpower, it's not the right "type" to allow him to use the green light easily and effectively. That's exactly what happened that one time Green Arrow got one for a little while: his will was apparently too "cynical" to use it as well as the Green Lanterns did, so his constructs were weaker and he had to concentrate hard to make one.
 
I don't mind them using it. They won't be capable of breaking everything with it. That I'm not okay with. If you want a quest of mine where you can break the setting, that's what the HP/Gamer quest is for. Since The Gamer is kinda good at breaking things.
A single green lantern ring isn't going to break the setting. Not without invoking Ion or something like that (space whale versus space whale!). I'm interested in using the Green Lantern ring to analyze tinker tech, bridge the gaps between tinker tech and modern tech, helping Dragon (who can take care of Scion on her own if we unshackle her early enough), using the ring to tinker our own equipment, since it provides a perfect way to avoid going into a tinker cycle of making the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the ... You get the idea.
One good explanation is that, while Spider-Man definitely has a lot of willpower, it's not the right "type" to allow him to use the green light easily and effectively. That's exactly what happened that one time Green Arrow got one for a little while: his will was apparently too "cynical" to use it as well as the Green Lanterns did, so his constructs were weaker and he had to concentrate hard to make one.
Except Peter is totally the right kind of heroic willpower sort of guy. Honestly, a better way to avoid the entire problem would have been to make it a blue ring, instead. Peter's a hopeful guy and inspires hope in others, but without a Greenie around, a Blue ring has a lot of its power blocked away.
 
A single green lantern ring isn't going to break the setting. Not without invoking Ion or something like that (space whale versus space whale!). I'm interested in using the Green Lantern ring to analyze tinker tech, bridge the gaps between tinker tech and modern tech, helping Dragon (who can take care of Scion on her own if we unshackle her early enough), using the ring to tinker our own equipment, since it provides a perfect way to avoid going into a tinker cycle of making the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the ... You get the idea.

Except Peter is totally the right kind of heroic willpower sort of guy. Honestly, a better way to avoid the entire problem would have been to make it a blue ring, instead. Peter's a hopeful guy and inspires hope in others, but without a Greenie around, a Blue ring has a lot of its power blocked away.

And those are fine. Going out to strip mine the asteroid belt and get rich isn't. Also, keep in mind that the ring's constructs are temporary and only exist as long as they're fueled by willpower. So you could use it to make a tool to make something, but you couldn't just make said something directly and expect it to exist forever. And bridging the gaps between tinker tech and modern tech, while possible, would fall into the cycle of making a tool to make the tools to... Because modern tech doesn't have the tools to make tinker tech. Thus the whole reason the cycle exists.
 
And those are fine. Going out to strip mine the asteroid belt and get rich isn't. Also, keep in mind that the ring's constructs are temporary and only exist as long as they're fueled by willpower. So you could use it to make a tool to make something, but you couldn't just make said something directly and expect it to exist forever. And bridging the gaps between tinker tech and modern tech, while possible, would fall into the cycle of making a tool to make the tools to... Because modern tech doesn't have the tools to make tinker tech. Thus the whole reason the cycle exists.
Money isn't that big of a deal. I, personally, don't care about being rich, especially not when the protectorate pays a decent salary. As to the tinker cycle... Well, Peter is a Marvel Comics genius. He could bridge the gap between tinker tech and regular tech all by himself. I'm just envisioning using the ring as a shortcut, since it comes with tech databases, scanning functions, etc.
 
Money isn't that big of a deal. I, personally, don't care about being rich, especially not when the protectorate pays a decent salary. As to the tinker cycle... Well, Peter is a Marvel Comics genius. He could bridge the gap between tinker tech and regular tech all by himself. I'm just envisioning using the ring as a shortcut, since it comes with tech databases, scanning functions, etc.

This, the Marvel Universe is full of what by Worm Standards would be high level Tinkers, furthermore, Marvel Tech isn't limited to one speciality and can be mass produced without needing tinkers to maintain it.
 
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