So, instead of a power up, it's more like an ultimate last resort trump card?
Sort-of. For Peter, yes. He can put it on and figure out the basics. He won't be time-traveling with it, or tearing holes in the space-time continuum. He won't be using it to make mad amounts of money by mining asteroids. Because he has no clue that is something that can be done with the ring. Hell, he doesn't even know it'll let him survive space. But in an emergency, if he has the ring on, it will act. Create a shield larger than he thought possible, or turn him invisible, or absorb an energy blast. He can't do anything with it he doesn't know the ring is capable of. Which at the start... He doesn't know much of that.
Others would have an easier time figuring powers out(provided they weren't trying to figure out a function similar to powers they already have, if any). While Peter would dodge an incoming attack, thus meaning the ring wouldn't need to shield him, or hide on a ceiling thus meaning it wouldn't need to make him invisible, they don't have those advantages. So they would learn quicker through necessity.
That said, certain persistent effects would always be on for anyone wearing it. Mostly just the translator.
All he has to do is ask what the thing can do and the AI in the ring should give him at least basic information; presumably Strange wouldn't give him a ring that is crippled by not having an AI so the computer on his finger should give him at least some information to go on.
EDIT: And I just mean asking in general; thinking aloud (which he has done a lot in various comics) and the ring should pipe up with some degree of information.
He comes from a world that has AIs and Robots and telepaths and ghosts. A talking ring is hardly out of the ordinary. A talking ring that's a super weapon with a built in AI isn't even all that out of the ordinary.Why would he ask it anything? It's a ring. Spider-Man knows rings don't talk. Unless you're going insane.
He doesn't have to directly address the ring for it to answer though. Just speak.
No way,We will use the one ring.We take 2 parker luck for it.Don't worry. My Spider-Man quest is still going to be about Spider-Man. He has a GL ring, yes. He doesn't know fully what it's capabilities or limits are, so he's going to largely rely on his usual powers. The ring will be used for really big fights and all, but not for every-day stuff, or even fights with normal supervillains.
Edit: Further, just because Peter CAN use it doesn't mean nobody else can, nor does it mean he has to. It's an option, and not a relevant one right away.
No, but it's likely that as he goes about his usual superhero antics, he'll hear "Snark detected. This ring requires Will to function."Why would he ask it anything? It's a ring. Spider-Man knows rings don't talk. Unless you're going insane.
@Halpo133 We have squirrel girl and talking squirrel in our universe but don't think ring can talk?.No, but it's likely that as he goes about his usual superhero antics, he'll hear "Snark detected, this ring requires Will to function."
Lots of reasons why anyone, Spider-Man in specific, might want to try to help.
- We'll be taking perhaps a few hours (likely just one or two, depending), maybe a day at the absolute most, out of our day doing this. Did Strange give any indication that doom was coming within the next week or so? Because otherwise I'm pretty sure we can afford the setback.
They voted for it, they are going to find a way to use it. If you didn't want this to turn into a generic GL Quest, you shouldn't have given them the option.
I don't mind them using it. They won't be capable of breaking everything with it. That I'm not okay with. If you want a quest of mine where you can break the setting, that's what the HP/Gamer quest is for. Since The Gamer is kinda good at breaking things.
A single green lantern ring isn't going to break the setting. Not without invoking Ion or something like that (space whale versus space whale!). I'm interested in using the Green Lantern ring to analyze tinker tech, bridge the gaps between tinker tech and modern tech, helping Dragon (who can take care of Scion on her own if we unshackle her early enough), using the ring to tinker our own equipment, since it provides a perfect way to avoid going into a tinker cycle of making the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the ... You get the idea.I don't mind them using it. They won't be capable of breaking everything with it. That I'm not okay with. If you want a quest of mine where you can break the setting, that's what the HP/Gamer quest is for. Since The Gamer is kinda good at breaking things.
Except Peter is totally the right kind of heroic willpower sort of guy. Honestly, a better way to avoid the entire problem would have been to make it a blue ring, instead. Peter's a hopeful guy and inspires hope in others, but without a Greenie around, a Blue ring has a lot of its power blocked away.One good explanation is that, while Spider-Man definitely has a lot of willpower, it's not the right "type" to allow him to use the green light easily and effectively. That's exactly what happened that one time Green Arrow got one for a little while: his will was apparently too "cynical" to use it as well as the Green Lanterns did, so his constructs were weaker and he had to concentrate hard to make one.
A single green lantern ring isn't going to break the setting. Not without invoking Ion or something like that (space whale versus space whale!). I'm interested in using the Green Lantern ring to analyze tinker tech, bridge the gaps between tinker tech and modern tech, helping Dragon (who can take care of Scion on her own if we unshackle her early enough), using the ring to tinker our own equipment, since it provides a perfect way to avoid going into a tinker cycle of making the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make the ... You get the idea.
Except Peter is totally the right kind of heroic willpower sort of guy. Honestly, a better way to avoid the entire problem would have been to make it a blue ring, instead. Peter's a hopeful guy and inspires hope in others, but without a Greenie around, a Blue ring has a lot of its power blocked away.
Money isn't that big of a deal. I, personally, don't care about being rich, especially not when the protectorate pays a decent salary. As to the tinker cycle... Well, Peter is a Marvel Comics genius. He could bridge the gap between tinker tech and regular tech all by himself. I'm just envisioning using the ring as a shortcut, since it comes with tech databases, scanning functions, etc.And those are fine. Going out to strip mine the asteroid belt and get rich isn't. Also, keep in mind that the ring's constructs are temporary and only exist as long as they're fueled by willpower. So you could use it to make a tool to make something, but you couldn't just make said something directly and expect it to exist forever. And bridging the gaps between tinker tech and modern tech, while possible, would fall into the cycle of making a tool to make the tools to... Because modern tech doesn't have the tools to make tinker tech. Thus the whole reason the cycle exists.
Money isn't that big of a deal. I, personally, don't care about being rich, especially not when the protectorate pays a decent salary. As to the tinker cycle... Well, Peter is a Marvel Comics genius. He could bridge the gap between tinker tech and regular tech all by himself. I'm just envisioning using the ring as a shortcut, since it comes with tech databases, scanning functions, etc.