Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 6: Fatal Fires Flagrantly Fry Frantic Friends, Family
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Gromweld
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I am leery of the idea that we automatically bank .5 XP gains because it encourages shorter, hastier Creative Works. Voting for Vat Bank uses the existing methods for determining The Will of the Sidereals, so we'll go with that for now. Vats are a while off, anyway, so we'll see how the Voting works first before switching things up further.
Sadly, Manses don't create essence, just direct it..IronSun. said:
I wonder what would have happened if we'd taken the Thermionic Orthodoxy Array at chargen (Alchemical version of Chaos-Repelling Pattern). I mean, even the SoPA is pumping out a perceptible amount of essence.
And there's absolutely no way that overwriting the local laws of physics with a basic Charm could ever cause problems!
Actually, maybe it's a good thing we didn't take it....
Gromweld
Learning By Mistake
That's a surprisingly good Alch name, though amusing due to his current lack of... well, yeah.Stormseed said:
The Simurgh: Korean Drama Junkie. +1 XP!kestrel404 said:
A fun idea, but a little too on-the-nose. I do have a few ideas for how it'll go down, so I may use parts of this when the time comes. +1 XP!sun tzu said:
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I'm pretty sure approving everyone in Creation's XP expenditures is way more paperwork than the Sidereals are willing to take on.Gromweld said:
Clearly that's what cyberarms are for. Science of Bioenhancement, anyone?Gromweld said:
...actually, that sounds like an awesome Lore/Craft Specialization to pick up.
Or the naturally gained XP from each update?1986ctcel said:
I don't see why. I mean, it's only taking a depressed widower who doesn't know how to connect to his teenage daughter and is afraid of losing her and is head of hiring for a worker's union during a depression, sticking a demon in his head and stapling the aforementioned demon and a titan-slaying superweapon onto his soul(s) in order to give him power based on the petulant rage of Creation's biggest losers by casually reshaping his soul in mimicry of alien essence-physiology, because the aforementioned biggest losers want to be let out of their prison so they can take back their Cosmic XBox (and the rest of everything while they're at it too thank you kindly).Gromweld said:
That's not depressing at all!
Our skill at Athletics is already at 4 dots, and I don't see us making that many Athletics (Running) rolls.
FunkyEntropy
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XP banking is one of those ideas that sounds great in theory but only serves to handicap you in practice unless precautions are taken to insure that the banked xp serves an actual function.
In Conquest, the players have a large quantity of XP banked. However, virtually all of that XP is spoken for. 8 XP is set aside for emergency training the Awareness variant of Reflex Sidestep Technique. A further 8 for the Perfect Defense that's available after we learn Solar Counterattack. Then there's the Presence excellency, another dot in Resistance, and Tireless Sentinel Technique.
So as you can see, although we have all that XP banked, it's going to be spent. At no point is there XP just sitting there, waiting.
We don't even know when we'll have access to the vats - it would be foolhardy to just let that XP sit there and do nothing.
So...no. We should not bank XP when we don't even know when we'd have the opportunity to spend it. Let's fill out our core competencies first.
In Conquest, the players have a large quantity of XP banked. However, virtually all of that XP is spoken for. 8 XP is set aside for emergency training the Awareness variant of Reflex Sidestep Technique. A further 8 for the Perfect Defense that's available after we learn Solar Counterattack. Then there's the Presence excellency, another dot in Resistance, and Tireless Sentinel Technique.
So as you can see, although we have all that XP banked, it's going to be spent. At no point is there XP just sitting there, waiting.
We don't even know when we'll have access to the vats - it would be foolhardy to just let that XP sit there and do nothing.
So...no. We should not bank XP when we don't even know when we'd have the opportunity to spend it. Let's fill out our core competencies first.
Some Specialty XP expenditures I would support at the next voting opportunity are Lore (Insects ●○○) and/or Investigation (Swarms ●○○). Knowing more about our insects and how we can effectively use them is a good idea to me.FunkyEntropy said:
No, please no.landcollector said:
We have 9 dice in lore checks. We do not need a specialty to learn more about insects. We're already one of the foremost experts in the world.
I'm going to do a first, and remind Taylor/people of something -- Taylor's own life is also very, very important.
She might be the most important person in the world. Or at least in the top 5 or 10.
So, I think that it is important that Taylor not go Full Shirou. (You never go Full Shirou.)
I know that we risk our life for worthy causes. Starting with us leading Behemoth away. I know that.
I'm just saying that the idea that nobody has brought up "Save Yourself" as an argument, or even considered it, is probably a bad thing. Because it might decrease Taylor's self-preservation instinct.
The main thing to remember here is: The whole world depends on you. And you can't save anybody if you're dead.
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More thoughts for the day: we ought to pick up a dot of Medicine and Melee. It'll help.
Also -- we really need to sit down and meditate on how our Charms work. And next we get into contact with Iris, we need to make sure we actually talk to him and figure out what it takes to bring an Alchemical Exalt into Earth so that we're not caught unprepared and unsure of what even needs to be defended and so on.
We also need to talk to him about what the requirements and prerequisite qualities a person needs in order to qualify to become an Alchemical. We can't just guess at this shit.
We really need to buckle down and start talking to Iris about this.
Also also -- when we spend time healing, and laid up in bed because we're badly wounded, we should take that time to meditate on our Charms. Really. We can't do anything while laid up wounded. So we might as well think on something highly productive.
Lucci Quest, run by Bob's Beard.
The fighting style is called "Fighting Fab", with fab being short for fabrication.
No, but seriously -- if we can have batteries for the thing... That'd be amazing. Because we can just put all the batteries into Elsewhere storage.
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... I wonder if our Integrated Blahblahblah counts "uncharged batteries" as "something to fix/repair"? Could our Elsewhere storage repair charm thing actually recharge batteries?
She might be the most important person in the world. Or at least in the top 5 or 10.
So, I think that it is important that Taylor not go Full Shirou. (You never go Full Shirou.)
I know that we risk our life for worthy causes. Starting with us leading Behemoth away. I know that.
I'm just saying that the idea that nobody has brought up "Save Yourself" as an argument, or even considered it, is probably a bad thing. Because it might decrease Taylor's self-preservation instinct.
The main thing to remember here is: The whole world depends on you. And you can't save anybody if you're dead.
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More thoughts for the day: we ought to pick up a dot of Medicine and Melee. It'll help.
Also -- we really need to sit down and meditate on how our Charms work. And next we get into contact with Iris, we need to make sure we actually talk to him and figure out what it takes to bring an Alchemical Exalt into Earth so that we're not caught unprepared and unsure of what even needs to be defended and so on.
We also need to talk to him about what the requirements and prerequisite qualities a person needs in order to qualify to become an Alchemical. We can't just guess at this shit.
We really need to buckle down and start talking to Iris about this.
Also also -- when we spend time healing, and laid up in bed because we're badly wounded, we should take that time to meditate on our Charms. Really. We can't do anything while laid up wounded. So we might as well think on something highly productive.
landcollector said:
Daemir Silverstreak said:
There's actually a Quest here on BROB that has that as a thing.landcollector said:
Lucci Quest, run by Bob's Beard.
The fighting style is called "Fighting Fab", with fab being short for fabrication.
I thought the same thing myself!CrawlingChaos74 said:
"I'll take 500 of them."Gromweld said:
No, but seriously -- if we can have batteries for the thing... That'd be amazing. Because we can just put all the batteries into Elsewhere storage.
...
... I wonder if our Integrated Blahblahblah counts "uncharged batteries" as "something to fix/repair"? Could our Elsewhere storage repair charm thing actually recharge batteries?
Given that we're at -4 dice penalties with a busted leg, 1 extra dot at a running specialty isn't going to do much of anything for us and we would have died anyway.uju32 said:
At this point there's likely not enough time left in the voting period to get votes for either above the minimum threshold.uju32 said:
Just an idle thought, is all.Cytokinesis said:
The lore one. It's ridiculous. We're better than most experts can ever hope to be and it's exceedingly doubtful lives are going to depend on us knowing whatever minutia going from 9 dice to 10 when thinking about insects is going to get us.uju32 said:
I can understand the Investigation(Swarms) and other stuff, but seriously, parts of that list are just wasteful to the extreme.
I'm just glad no one has voted for Thrown (Carrots) yet.
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...and now I'm imagining Taylor picking up Ill Lily Style and using carrots as her primary weapon.
Damn it.
Damn it.
FunkyEntropy
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Garlak has the right of it in that we should meditate but be productive about how we use that time spent meditating.
Off the top of my head, things we can do while meditating using SoPA and IEU:
- Train Medicine/Bureaucracy/Investigation by reading up on an internalized book/CD/DVD
- Craft with our Insects
- Delve into our essence to see how our charms work
Off the top of my head, things we can do while meditating using SoPA and IEU:
- Train Medicine/Bureaucracy/Investigation by reading up on an internalized book/CD/DVD
- Craft with our Insects
- Delve into our essence to see how our charms work
First, wow that's a really unfortunate misspelling.DragonBard said:
Second, we have nine dice in lore+intelligence.
I get the feeling people don't understand what a big deal that is. It's huge. Having dice pools of ~10 is more than enough for nearly anything but life or death contested rolls.
We have better things to spend our XP on. It might be useful, sometime, maybe, but it's a waste compared to everything else we need to buy.
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[X] Save the Capes
[X] 4xp - Presence ●●●●○
[X] 4xp - Vat Bank
While the Capes are critical and important the world does not exist in a vacuum. More cities getting wrecked in America fucks over the economy even more than it already is. And prioritizing capes to the damaging of masses hurts our appearance in our major recruiting pool and logistical support.
[X] 4xp - Presence ●●●●○
[X] 4xp - Vat Bank
While the Capes are critical and important the world does not exist in a vacuum. More cities getting wrecked in America fucks over the economy even more than it already is. And prioritizing capes to the damaging of masses hurts our appearance in our major recruiting pool and logistical support.
FunkyEntropy
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OK, just to hopefully get the bandwagon going for more useful specialty purchases with 2.5 in reserve for when Medicine pops up (which should be soon).
[X] Save The Capes
[X] 4 xp - Presence
[X] 2 xp - Socialize (Swarms ●○○)
[X] 2 xp - Investigation (Swarms ●○○)
[X] 2 xp - Presence (Intimidation ●○○)
[X] Save The Capes
[X] 4 xp - Presence
[X] 2 xp - Socialize (Swarms ●○○)
[X] 2 xp - Investigation (Swarms ●○○)
[X] 2 xp - Presence (Intimidation ●○○)
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I'm not sure people quite get the Exalted dice mechanics. those nine dice? They're all 10 sided, and any roll of a seven or better is counted as a success. Any given bit of bug related crap we would need to roll to test our knowledge would be at about difficulty level two maybe? Anyway, we roll those 9 dice and if we have 2 sevens or better we succeed. For some things having lots of extra successes can give us a critical success, but I'm pretty sure we have enough of a dice pool for any bug crap to be counted as an auto-success.
So yeah, more points into it could be useful, but there are other things we need first.
So yeah, more points into it could be useful, but there are other things we need first.