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Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 6: Fatal Fires Flagrantly Fry Frantic Friends, Family

[X] "We could hear Behemoth tearing through the city, but we were too disorganized and reeling to do anything. Weaver was there, though, and within only a few minutes we had rallied and teleported to that High School for a last stand."
-[X] Stunt: Analyze downed and recovered capes for compatibility with Exaltation and their health condition as they are evacuated to the high school. Prioritize those likely to die without intervention and those with higher degree of personal familiarity.
-[X] Stunt: Allocate all available Tinkers and Shakers to assist Iris with any requests for fortification while requesting that Iris make use of these additional resources for his defense
 
Jinnt said:
That's what I am saying if we put the pressure on with the Triumverate we can get him to retreat rather then let him rampage some more.
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I highly doubt it'll be that easy, especially with Eidolon currently down and with lord knows what else we have to deal with.

The city's already fucked; Behemoth wasn't playing nice from the get go and there's now way this isn't going to be a clusterfuck, but at the very least we can make it one on our terms. Behemoth wants the Cradle, he wants us; so let's give it to him, with a side order of every goddamn cape on side working in tandem to take him down and with super-thinker planning backed by War 5 organization.
 
[ ] "The son of a bitch was hurt, but Weaver saw how badly we were hurt too. Without even a word, she was off to chase down the Endbringer with the Triumvirate quick on her heels."

This is no good. No 4 capes alone, not even the Triumvirate + Weaver, can to any appreciable thing to slow down/drive off Behemoth playing for keeps.
 
All right. Planning time.

[ ] "The son of a bitch was hurt, but Weaver saw how badly we were hurt too. Without even a word, she was off to chase down the Endbringer with the Triumvirate quick on her heels."
-[ ] Stunt: Get a Tinker gun, harass Behemoth - preferably, something with good range and rate of fire. Better yet, get multiple guns, use swarms to fire on Behemoth from multiple angles.
-[ ] Stunt: Have Alexandria throw a water tower at Behemoth's feet, get the street all wet. Then have Legend blast-freeze the water the instant before Alexandria punches the Endbringer. Watch Behemoth slip - a few precious seconds of vulnerability.

[ ] "We could hear Behemoth tearing through the city, but we were too disorganized and reeling to do anything. Weaver was there, though, and within only a few minutes we had rallied and teleported to that High School for a last stand."
-[ ] Stunt: Analyze downed and recovered capes for compatibility with Exaltation and their health condition as they are evacuated to the high school. Prioritize those likely to die without intervention and those with higher degree of personal familiarity.
-[ ] Stunt: There are a precious few parahumans present whose powers are believed to be good enough to hurt even Behemoth. Combine them with Movers to get them into position, and with capes whose defensive powers will prevent the Herokiller from one-shotting them.

[ ] "Even though we were barely organized, we still needed to stop the monster from tearing through the city like it was his playground. After only a few seconds of rest, everyone standing was teleported back into the fray. We didn't expect to see two monsters, though..."
-[ ] Stunt: Behemoth is a dynakinetic. Combine every power available that DRAINS energy, ranging from Grue's darkness to Legend's freeze-blasts.
-[ ] Stunt: If our fear aura can scare even machines... well then. It's time to teach Behemoth fear. Use buildings as covers to get in range, then, when he's under assault by every power that can bother him, show up in melee range to slash him with Armsmaster's nano-thorn. Convince him he can DIE here.

Not entirely satisfied with these, so, if you have better ideas, please please please post!


XP:
[X] Dodge - 4xp
[X] Athletics (Power Armor ●●○) - 2xp
[X] Awareness (Swarms ●●●) - 2xp
 
[X] "The son of a bitch was hurt, but Weaver saw how badly we were hurt too. Without even a word, she was off to chase down the Endbringer with the Triumvirate quick on her heels."
-[x] Behemoth reacted to your anima before it's time to find out if the Endbringers can truly know fear. Wait until he's distracted by the Triumverate then get as close as you dare to hit him with the full force of your Anima.
-[x] Focus on pushing him back to the bay hotswapping out IEU as necessary to capes who join in the offensive.

[X] 4xp - Athletics
[X] 4xp - Dodge
[X] 2xp - Awareness (Swarms ●●●)
 
Bozwevial said:
That's not really fair to Danny. There are a lot of cases where children who're being bullied hide it from their parents and pass it off as stress from other things because they're worried about escalation if their parents step in. It doesn't mean their parents don't care about them, and it certainly doesn't in Danny's case - he's pretty attentive to Taylor's condition. She's not just his daughter, she's his last immediate family member. He was worried sick about her outings, but also about the possibility of alienating her. Neither option looked great - too far one way and he might overlook something he could help her with, but too much prying and she might resent him enough to cut him even further out of her life.
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You're probably right.

But as I've said before, what gets me is that although worried for her outings, he decides to act just at that moment, when she has friends, when she is starting to get out of her shell a little, instead of trying to find out what the problem was before.

Now, I get that Danny does not have OOC knowledge so he can't know that what he is doing might alienate Taylor from him, but the fact that he did not know her enough to see that she was uncomfortable being trapped after her ordeal at the locker was what cemented my opinion of him.

Also, I didn't like how he just stopped noticing Taylor after his wife died. It's a devastating affair, I understand that, but he had a daughter to take care and provide for, and if his friends hadn't made him see that fact then Taylor might have actually suffered even more trauma than what she has.
 
Ryune said:
[X] "The son of a bitch was hurt, but Weaver saw how badly we were hurt too. Without even a word, she was off to chase down the Endbringer with the Triumvirate quick on her heels."
-[x] "I don't know where she got that rifle but it must have been tinkertech. Every shot that hit only did a little damage but it was strange, Behemoth was reacting like they were actually hurting him."
-[x] "It looked like Eidolon was actually playing support this time though. Whatever power he had seemed to be pulling all of the energy our of the air and every time behemoth shot lightning it seemed to be weaker than before."

How do these look?
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Interesting, but Gromweld said to posts stunts normally this time around, not in the past tense storytelling style.
 
...you guys do realize that Taylor is really unsuited for face to face fighting, right ? Not only are Soulsteel caste suppose to be the stealth/long range focused caste, Taylor's build is horrible for direct combat. Why are we rushing to our death ?
 
Zen said:
Down to one on his Intimacy. What happens if we lose it completely, anyway?
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EOA stops caring about Danny, and can start building an entirely different - most likely negative - Intimacy towards him.

[X] 4xp - Occult
[X] 4xp - Dodge
[X] 4xp - Athletics

Looks like the purchasability chart hasn't updated quite accurately - Athletics (Power Armor +1) is there still, and Athletics isn't.
 
ticktrick said:
Not going to make a dent in civilian casualties either. We don't have enough lifting capacity to haul people out of his way, and slow as he is he's faster than the evacuation. All it'd do is cost even more capes. Go to his destination, make all possible preparations and protect the Cradle.

If he breaks it, that's it, we're the first and last Alchemical of Earth Bet.
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Meaning we will have failed the charge that Autochthon himself gave to us. That is unacceptable.
 
Overmind said:
You're probably right.

But as I've said before, what gets me is that although worried for her outings, he decides to act just at that moment, when she has friends, when she is starting to get out of her shell a little, instead of trying to find out what the problem was before.

Now, I get that Danny does not have OOC knowledge so he can't know that what he is doing might alienate Taylor from him, but the fact that he did not know her enough to see that she was uncomfortable being trapped after her ordeal at the locker was what cemented my opinion of him.

Also, I didn't like how he just stopped noticing Taylor after his wife died. It's a devastating affair, I understand that, but he had a daughter to take care and provide for, and if his friends hadn't made him see that fact then Taylor might have actually suffered even more trauma than what she has.
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... Ya know her getting new friends and and remember this and starting to keep odd hours and come homes scuffed and bruised is not a good thing in their town.
It's a I have joined a gang and starting to love it thing. Which was painfully on point.
 
DragonBard said:
No, her emotions don't change. At least not until they become negative intimacies, but they aren't as much of a driving force as they were.

That's how I understand it anyway.
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Er. No, they very much change. Intimacies are how you persistently feel about and relate to other people, organizations, and causes. That's the entire point.

If she loses the Intimacy, that represents that she doesn't feel strongly in any particular fashion towards Danny. That is most definitely a change.
 
Jinnt said:
So your plan to protect the cradle is to let Behemoth get as close as possible to it? That's a terrible plan the offensive doesn't have to kill him we just have to force him to finally pull back.

Also it's meta but we know Taylor survives this. We are much better off leading from the front then setting up defenses Behemoth can just roll over.
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Jinnt, Behemoth is B-Lining straight to the Cradle. The capes on scene aren't going to be enough to pull him back. The best I feel we can do is try to stall him and protect the Cradle until at least one of the following conditions is met:
1. Iris gets done with whatever it is he is doing (moving/absorbing the Cradle maybe?)
2. Scion shows up

That is the limit of our forces' capabilities.
 
[X] "The son of a bitch was hurt, but Weaver saw how badly we were hurt too. Without even a word, she was off to chase down the Endbringer with the Triumvirate quick on her heels."
-[X] "Iris, recover Armsmaster body, attempt conversion."
-[X] Go grab a tinkertech rifle and shoot at Behemoth, mostly to keep him distracted but maybe you can even hurt him.

So here's my reasoning why I don't like the other plans

First, the emergency Exaltions for everyone plan.
A.k.a. the permanently choose our future team in a few minutes, without ever talking to them based on who is dying while in a state where we do not comprehend how humans think and act, where half the people we choose could be mentally unstable or hate us or be villains etc. plan. It's also going to save a maximum of 5 lives, at the cost of countless causalities among the capes and the civilians. Firstly, Alchemical Exaltions take time, so they're not going to help us this fight.
Secondly, by focusing our attention on that, we're not coordinating Capes, increasing causalities. Thirdly, by building a sub-optimal team we permanently weaken ourselves, which makes it harder for us to save people, defeat Enderbringers and save the world. And lastly, it's very OOC for Taylor, especially when she has such high Clarity. She does not look at people as induviduals, she sees them as statistics. Choosing the option where overall more people die because she wanted to save a few lives right now is not something she would do.

Second is plan try to use our anima banner on Behemoth
A.k.a. Get close to the dyakinetic that does everything to murder you without a way to hurt him while also hitting everyone else in meele combat with him with the same fear aura and hope it affects Behemoth and not Lung or Alexandria. Do I have to say more?
 
*rubs temples* everyone, put exaltations on the back burner for now, it's not important when compared to the fact that Behemoth is going after the Cradle, which is obviously important.

Now, when I look at the options, I can only think of one type of effect they will have on the story. We know something happens that makes at least Cauldron realize that we're not a parahuman. This likely means that the Cradle is evidence of what we are, and is powerful enough that the Endbringers want it gone.

I suspect that if we go straight after Behemoth with the Triumvirate, only they will see what happens, and will cover the rest up. If we go with the second and/or third options, the rest of the capes, and then the world, will see it. However, if we stay behind to organize everyone, we run the risk of arriving too late and the Cradle gets destroyed or damaged. Therefore, I propose we go with the third option.

[X] "Even though we were barely organized, we still needed to stop the monster from tearing through the city like it was his playground. After only a few seconds of rest, everyone standing was teleported back into the fray. We didn't expect to see two monsters, though..."
 
Are we sure Behemoth is going for the Cradle? How would he (or the Simhurgh) know that it's important to making more of us? All talk about it has been in visions by autobot or when talking to Iris in Old Realm, and I don't think the Smurf can understand that. With Essence being completely unknown to them, they shouldn't be able to understand anything about the process or know what's required, either. I think the most likely way the know it's important is because the observed us and saw Iris race to it instead of helping in combat.
 
*sigh* Fine.

[] "The son of a bitch was hurt, but Weaver saw how badly we were hurt too. Without even a word, she was off to chase down the Endbringer with the Triumvirate quick on her heels."
-[] "Iris, recover Armsmaster body, attempt conversion."
-[] Go grab a tinkertech rifle and shoot at Behemoth, mostly to keep him distracted but maybe you can even hurt him.

XP Spending:
[] Occult (4 XP)
[] Dodge (4 XP)
 
Jinnt said:
Allies aren't affected by the fear aura Ele. Also we've pretty much proven we can take what Behemoth can dish out as long as we are careful.
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We stayed at his outer range, where he can't direct the lightning anymore and a single hit shut down our suit for several seconds, time he could use to hit us even more.
 
Jinnt said:
It's Meta but we already know we survive this. Letting Behemoth carve his way through the center of the city in hopes we can stop him with "defenses" is an awful plan. Nothing we can put up in time is going to so much as slow Behemoth down if he wants Winslow destroyed. We need to keep him away from the Cradle not just let him march right in.
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Who's to say our distractions will work, Jinnt?
 
[X] "Even though we were barely organized, we still needed to stop the monster from tearing through the city like it was his playground. After only a few seconds of rest, everyone standing was teleported back into the fray. We didn't expect to see two monsters, though..."
-[X] Pass IEU to Lung to let him fight Behemoth better, possibly being able to to use his melee and control his pyrokinetics simultaneously more effectively. Hopefully with six mindstreams at once Lung can limit friendly fire.
-[X] Flare your anima at Behemoth, trying to focus the full brunt of the fear on him specifically somehow.

[X] Occult (4 XP)
[X] Dodge (4 XP)
[x] War (Swarms)
 
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