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Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 5: Eye Eyes Eyes Eyeing Eye Eyeing Eyes

Xomniac said:
I'm not exactly a buff on Exalted, but in my opinion, I can't see a better choice for the Orichalcum Exaltation than Chevalier. I mean, that speech, and, well, look at canon! Seriously, if the Unconquered Sun could, I have no doubt in my mind that he would Exalt Chevalier as a Solar! However, seeing how that's not possible, I'd say that Orichalcum is the next best thing.

Am I making sense or am I way off base?
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Slightly off. Orichalcum castes select from different traits than Solars. They look for those who'd pursue their grand goals no matter the cost to themselves or others.
 
[X] Scenic Route

I've never met a bandwagon I didn't like!

More seriously, Worm's biggest failing outside of the awful timeskip was losing the slice of life in favor of ever-escalating, non-stop battles. I really want to make sure that mistake doesn't happen here.
 
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[X] Scenic Route
No. of votes: 72
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[X] The Final Age
No. of votes: 8
Anasurimbor, Thriceboiled, GamingGeek, gideon020, ryuan, spudman, Golden Lark, CrawlingChaos74

[X] Shai'Hulud
No. of votes: 1
Demonic Spoon
 
veekie said:
Slightly off. Orichalcum castes select from different traits than Solars. They look for those who'd pursue their grand goals no matter the cost to themselves or others.
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Ah. So... Jade then? That's the people's hero caste, right?
 
Xomniac said:
Ah. So... Jade then? That's the people's hero caste, right?
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Jades require self-sacrifice. Adamants require dedication to the greater good. Moonsilver requires creativity and quick thinking. Starmetals require deep insight...and unusually for an alchemical, a willingness to go "fuck proper procedure" and do what is needed.
 
veekie said:
Jades require self-sacrifice. Adamants require dedication to the greater good. Moonsilver requires creativity and quick thinking. Starmetals require deep insight...and unusually for an alchemical, a willingness to go "fuck proper procedure" and do what is needed.
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The man vowed to never show fear again in the pursuit of justice. To never show cowardice or back down. Hell, he was grievously wounded and he still got up to fight Behemoth. Adamant or not, he needs to be one of the Exalted.
 
Xomniac said:
The man vowed to never show fear again in the pursuit of justice. To never show cowardice or back down. Hell, he was grievously wounded and he still got up to fight Behemoth. Adamant or not, he needs to be one of the Exalted.
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Better talk him in to getting a rather extreme piercing then. Also hope he doesn't die before we can make a soulgem.
 
veekie said:
Pretty sure the process would involve shoving the candidate into Elsewhere. Good idea to ask Iris.
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Why? All it takes is a 2 dot artifact, and a bit of Auto's essence. And knowing the right procedure as the development of the one for creation took a couple hundred fatal errors before they got it right. And for the residents of nowhere to have conventional motonic souls.

Gonna take some work.
 
Depends on what Iris knows then. One did get implanted successfully after all, but Auto may not have given Iris the notes on how. In any case, we don't have them now.
 
Either way, I figure it'd be a good free action to ask Iris how to pick a candidate. It could save a life here, when an Endbringer hits the city and it's either that or lose someone.
 
Though, Dragon and Contessa aren't going to be in urgent need of emergency upgrading. It's extremely unlikely that they would be dying as a result of Leviathan. Aegis is probably out, given his power, any injury that he's alive enough to be Exalted from he can heal on it's own(noting that he died from Leviathan by being killed instantly).

Most of the Wards and Protectorate heroes could probably qualify for Jade, it's a job requirement of sorts. We probably should leave the Jade slot open for as long as possible though, if someone fails to qualify for another caste, they might be possible to slot into a Jade instead of wasting an exaltation.

Dennis and Chris MIGHT qualify for Moonsilver(Dennis because he really is adaptable, Chris because pretty much any Tinker would qualify). Lisa similarly qualifies.

Colin is the only Orichalcum candidate we actually know. It is likely that he would require emergency reconstruction as he'd be attempting to duel an Endbringer at some point.

Lisa is the only Starmetal candidate we actually know. It is unlikely that she would require emergency reconstruction, as she'd be in the back row of the conflict(though in canon Leviathan hit the back row anyway with a tsunami).

Chevalier is the only Adamant candidate we actually know, though Dragon and Miss Militia may count, we don't know enough of them yet.
 
Odysseus2099 said:
Legend is the best Orichalum, and we know that just by his reputation.
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Pursuing his goals regardless of the consequences to self or others? Being named Orichalcum candidate is not quite a compliment...it simply declares that you're a jerk with big dreams.
 
Peanuckle said:
Just a thought: Grom told us if we gave the wrong person to be exalted, that we'd lose that party slot. Only one chance per caste.

Wouldn't it just suck if Lisa didn't fit? I mean, we're practically dead-set on bringing her in because she's practically a perfect match, but I can't help but think that we'll put her into whatever the cradle is (the locker, I presume) and it'll just return a new Lisa with a shiny gem.
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If anything, the Starmetal and Moonsilver slots are the safest since we have a lot of basis for their accuracy. It is not in doubt that Lisa is highly insightful and willing to disregard authority, or that most of the Tinkers we're considering are innovative.

Jade can be hard to distinguish between circumstance, heroism and obligation. Orichalcum can be hard to distinguish from simply being autistic or some other psychological malfunction versus a truly dedicated individual.

Adamant is the hardest, it's a purely internal quality.
 
Odysseus2099 said:
He got gay marriage legalized and founded the Protectorate, there were probably consequences to both.
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He accomplished big things, but this is going after their innate qualities, which is quite different and that we can't tell about Legend. Armsmaster is willing to abuse the Endbringer Truce to get what he wants, and Accord went supervillain in order to force his plan to end world hunger through.

Orichalcum is all about doing it their way. Would Legend arrange for innocent peoples to die in the pursuit of his goals? We know Colin would. Accord would.
 
Peanuckle said:
Just a thought: Grom told us if we gave the wrong person to be exalted, that we'd lose that party slot. Only one chance per caste.

Wouldn't it just suck if Lisa didn't fit? I mean, we're practically dead-set on bringing her in because she's practically a perfect match, but I can't help but think that we'll put her into whatever the cradle is (the locker, I presume) and it'll just return a new Lisa with a shiny gem.
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It's more that you have 5 slots to fill at the start, and their soul+Autochthon catalyzes the caste that fits them (if they work with any of the castes, and have the requisite heroic drive). Then you have 4 slots to work with. As you go, you have less margin for error.

Also note that being a Parahuman does not necessarily mean you are qualified for Alchemical Exaltation, nor does being known as a "Hero". There are, conversely, a few mortals that have been introduced, interacted with, or alluded to that could work. If there is a concern about the norms not having spacemonsterhax charms, and thus being 'sub-optimal' candidates... well, not only are there ways around that, I would also stress that you do not have that concern.
 
Gromweld said:
It's more that you have 5 slots to fill at the start, and their soul+Autochthon catalyzes the caste that fits them (if they work with any of the castes, and have the requisite heroic drive). Then you have 4 slots to work with. As you go, you have less margin for error.

Also note that being a Parahuman does not necessarily mean you are qualified for Alchemical Exaltation, nor does being known as a "Hero". There are, conversely, a few mortals that have been introduced, interacted with, or alluded to that could work. If there is a concern about the norms not having spacemonsterhax charms, and thus being 'sub-optimal' candidates... well, not only are there ways around that, I would also stress that you do not have that concern.
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Well, Piggot is on the list too for sure. But she's very hard to work with. :p

Still, it means we got some leeway for the first few candidates. That's good.
 
Peanuckle said:
That's true, but I would rather hand phenomenal cosmic power to Legend, rather than Armsmaster or Accord.
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It's one of the funny thing about Exaltations, they tend to best fit assholes on some level by modern standards. Legend might catalyze as a Jade though.
 
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