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Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 5: Eye Eyes Eyes Eyeing Eye Eyeing Eyes

At the moment i'm curious what effects Simurgh's attack on Canberra had since we've pretty much negated it since the Endbringers are attacking us instead
 
Hm. Upon reflection, I agree that Lore (Parahumans) is more immediately useful than Resistance (Enduring Pain).
I still maintain, however, that we should get a 5th Dot of War (every bit counts, and it's not like they don't already give the job to decent tacticians - we need to be fantastic to make a difference) and a 3rd dot of Reputation (We're a Ward with no prior combat experience in an Endbringer battle. Getting folks to listen to our advice is going to be an uphill battle).
Sinsystems said:
At the moment i'm curious what effects Simurgh's attack on Canberra had since we've pretty much negated it since the Endbringers are attacking us instead
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Yeah. Whatever else happens, we may well have accomplished something important with that alone.
I hope.
 
Demonic Spoon said:
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We can't vote xp expenditure yet. We need war more than athletics, enduring pain or awareness.
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Based on our current situation, here's what I feel XP should be spent on:
6xp Reputation (Ward) ●●○○○ "Heroic Ward of Brockton Bay, took a bullet for a teammate on her very first day."
4xp Awareness (6/6 Intervals)
4xp War (6/6 Intervals)
2xp *Lore (Parahumans ●○○)
2xp *Presence (Swarms ●○○)

Total XP Spent: 18

Does anyone feel this is a bad idea? I like it myself (but then I would, since I'm posting it...).

Note: This is not an XP vote, but a possible plan to vote on post-interlude.
 
Honda Tadakatsu said:
One thing is, we are not entirely useless in combat. I agree we should also pitch in from a C&C standpoint but we also contribute in two other important ways.

One, we can be invisible flying snipers - if someone can give us some crazy tinker weapon, we can bring down some hurt from out of nowhere.

Secondly, we can be useful as transportation, no as glamorous, but many capes have amazing utility, but not the mobility to effectively implement it.

Which reminds me, we need to pick up Hidden Assembly Conclave at our next possibly opportunity. (Whenever that is, I have no idea how we are going to acquire new charms.) What it does is apply our Optical Shroud to others, can you imagine what we could do if we were giving Flichete a lift while invisible!
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Noting that most weapons we coulduse have more qualified wielders. We're best off accelerating the heaviest hitter and then sticking to tactical work because this time, WE are the target, and should not do traceable things like shooting to show which direction we're in.

Bug swarm communications to coordinate efforts go much further, as is tracking the extent of his flooding with crabs and bugs.
 
[X] The Final Age

Shyft talked this up on IRC so I read it.

I'm gonna have to tweak some of my planned progression in my piece now . . . don't want to inadvertently copycat :/

That said, fun stuff!

Also, for XP:

OCCULT
For the love of GOD, Occult! Use Iris as a teacher for double learning speed! Occult is the science we run on! We're ignoring it!
 
Golden Lark said:
[X] The Final Age

Shyft talked this up on IRC so I read it.

I'm gonna have to tweak some of my planned progression in my piece now . . . don't want to inadvertently copycat :/

That said, fun stuff!

Also, for XP:

OCCULT
For the love of GOD, Occult! Use Iris as a teacher for double learning speed! Occult is the science we run on! We're ignoring it!
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Though it would fit Worm-canon, going from everyone's alive to EVERYONE'S DEAD isn't what I want the tone of this quest to be, at least not this early into it.
 
LoreOfClark said:
The reputation can wait until the end of the battle. Pick as many combat type upgrades now, and grab the social boost when we aren't staring an Endbringer in the face.
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The social boost IS an indirect combat upgrade since it will help us be taken seriously when we try to take over C&C/CIC(?) duties with our swarm.
 
1986ctcel said:
The social boost IS an indirect combat upgrade since it will help us be taken seriously when we try to take over C&C/CIC(?) duties with our swarm.
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Yeah, getting bumped up the 'will obey in a crisis' list is as big as, or even bigger than a combat ablility increase. We just plain don't have the attack or defense abilities to do any fighting, but we CAN do things like scan endbringer, spot sneak attacks before they hit, and help Dragon optimize the survivor recovery effort or endbringer suppression. We are probably the best tactician available at the moment, but it means nothing if nobody would listen.
 
Remember that we do Ping damage. That means that every attack that hits the Enderbringer, no matter how weak, will do 1 dice of damage. Grabbing a machine gun and just spraying them with bullets is a perfectly valid tactics. That may not be enough to solo Enderbringer, especially with their regen, but remember that that applies even to their core. The core that even Armsmaster's nanothorns couldn't scratch. The core that, as far as we know, is the only part of them that isn't just ablative armor.
Every single hit on the core will do damage, we're possible the only person on the battlefield actually able to finish an Enderbringer off.
 
mastigos2 said:
The machine gun probably will work off WoD rapid fire rules instead of each bullet counting as a seperate attack.

The Athletics purchase was so that we could bravely run for cover from the tidal waves if it IS leviathan
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Um we can FLY thanks to our armor. No running for cover necessary
 
uju32 said:
That is not confirmed afaict.
We do not know how Endbringer physics and Exalted damage will interact.
Do not bet on this.
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I think Gromweld said something like that when we were discussing armor and he explained that this world doesn't have hardness. I'll go look for a quote.
 
Found it.
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In the event that other Essence users appear on Earth-Bet, they (like you) will do Ping Damage no matter what Earth-Bet armor is involved (since it's a matter of Essence Rating, not armor/weapons as I explained more recently). Behold the power of Narrative Agency!

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DragonBard said:
Which we can't use because it's in tech review.
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It's an ENDBRINGER I think they'd be willing to forgo the tech Review if it means keeping us alive and defending the City. Besides even if this isn't Creation it's an untested prototype thats the only hope for the Hero(us) and the city, so of course it will work.
 
1986ctcel said:
No it means that if they had essence THEY would do ping damage, We use essence so we do ping damage.
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sunspark said:
What? We're discussing our ability to do ping damage to them, which we get via our ability to use essence. Unless the Endbringers are capable of using essense, no ping damage for them.
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And I, for some reason, thought that the reverse was under discussion.

That said, DO NOT discount the possibility that they DO use Essence or some equivalent, nor the likelihood that they have Hardness or equivalent.
 
landcollector said:
Endbringer armor can't exactly be considered "Earth-Bet". I think, as a character, we would do more good in being frontline mobile CIC with our armor than being on the spearhead. We simply don't have the punch right now to do so.
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I think "Earth-Bet" refers to the universe Earth-Bet is in and in which Earth-Bet physics work, as opposed to Exalted physics. Perhaps it would be better to say Nowhere armor.
 
Not like they need ping when they can crush through soak and to spare. Bigger question.

Mental threads for superior Administration, super colin or super alexandria/eidolon? The speed might be more useful on a close in hitter, but the goal isn't to beat the endbringer , it's to manage the losses so the city survives and few capes die.

They'll both be vital in subsequent acts, and our planning falls out of precog while accelerated.
 
Gromweld, you magnificent bastard! This is an incredible curve ball to throw at the players. Everything seemed to be going so well - Dennis gets punished for his wandering eyes (we may want to consider polishing our shiny metal ass to the point that people can see their faces on it). Chevalier and Miss Militia get set up for a date. Missy loves her new dress. Missy and Hannah went shopping to get us shoes because a girl has needs and that need is helping a friend properly accessorize her new dress.

And then this. This complete and utter shocker:

Armsmaster behaving like a caring father-figure and acting out of genuine concern for our welfare, going so far as to fast-track approval of our project ahead of his own.

This is an amazing and, dare I say, game-changing turn of events.




Oh, and an Endbringer is going to be showing up. That's kinda important too, I guess. Whatever.

[X] Scenic Route
As much as I would like things to be a little faster paced plot-wise, I can't really get that without sacrificing some of that delicious slice of life interaction. So Scenic Route for sure. Also, I like everybody that we've been interacting with too much to ask for a shifting cast of characters (I want to see more of Mouse Protector and Rime trying to connive Hannah and Bobby into getting back together!) or to have our friends getting fried by lightning or stuck in a quarantine zone.

As to what Endbringer goes with each option...
[ ] Scenic Route Things will be rough, but we'll have a more gradual escalation of Badness => Leviathan. Not a walk in the park (no Endbringer is) but he's definitely the least bad of the Endbringers and therefore the lowest degree of escalation.

[ ] Shai'Hulud The cast of characters will wax and wane rapidly in response to the breathless peril => Behemoth. Can't be the Simurgh because the cast of characters can't rotate all that much what with BB being under quarantine and all...

[ ] The Final Age The highest of stakes, but the costs will be greater than those of life and limb => the Simurgh. An attack by the Simurghs poses the greatest threat, the highest of stakes, because while she carries the least threat to life and limb the massive, demoralizing and paranoid response to her actions exacts a toll far in excess of the other Endbringers.
 
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