Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 23: We Wonder Where Who Wanders When Watchers Wane

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Indeed, because of the way that the Shard of Perfect Administration connects us to our swarm, they are considered 'us' for any charm that just requires touching and not access to a physical component (Taylor's hand/tool gauntlet). I believe we even had the ability to absorb things into our storage dimension through our swarm, but the object being absorbed would need to be smaller than the insect.
 
Do we know that Enduring Order Administrator can use charms through her swarm?
As it says in the charm description, charms with the Touch keyword can be used through SoPA, and SoPA-controlled subjects are treated as if they are the user's own body.
I believe we even had the ability to absorb things into our storage dimension through our swarm, but the object being absorbed would need to be smaller than the insect.
I'm surprised no one's brought this up, but now that we can control significantly larger creatures... well, I think you can imagine some of the hilarity now possible.
 
I'm surprised no one's brought this up, but now that we can control significantly larger creatures... well, I think you can imagine some of the hilarity now possible.
Was that ever mentioned in story? I don't remember such a thing in story and I only joined at thread 20 or so, so I didn't know about this at all.
 
Chapter 9.3: Part 5
Chapter 9.3
(Part 5)​


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At some point, while you've been lost imagining the soft, padded cell that you'll be spending the rest of your life within, Taylor finally finishes whatever she's been saying. You notice this primarily because of the tone her voice has grown even more confident while you weren't paying attention.

"-oes that sound alright, Tatsu?"

Turning your gaze from the Black Spike Of Doom To Your Personal Freedom, you blink owlishly a few times at Taylor and nod anyway.

She looks at you for a few seconds, then nods slowly.

"Riiight," she draws out, eyeing you critically for a moment. "So, you understand that there are potentially valid, therapeutic, legal uses for that charm, and you're fine with waiting until your charms are fully configured to actually test it."

Okay, you definitely should have been paying attention if that's where she wound up with a charm called Personality Override Spike, but it's far too late for asking for her to repeat all that now. Besides, any chance to put off using the Doom Spike in any way whatsoever is fine by you.

"Hai," you nod, more confidently this time before looking at the Doom Spike. "Should I… put it away?"

"Yes, please," she sighs.

For all that you'd tried - and failed - to manipulate it before, actually turning off and retracting the charm is… easy, really. There's a feeling of taking your finger off of a humming metal pad in the back of your mind and then a slick, metal-on-clay sound as the spike slips back between your knuckles like it was never there.

Humming to herself, Taylor eyes you up critically again. "Now then, let's finish going over the other charm we know you have: the one that let you look like… the 'old you', you called it?"

"You mean without… also using Integrated Artifact Transmogrifier?" you wonder, even though the charm's name is a little awkward on your tongue.

At Taylor's confirming nod, you close your eyes and settle back into peering at your vague collection of charms. Finding this one is easy enough since you've already put it to use a few times unknowingly, but as you mentally begin to shift essence down through Aura-Dampening Component and into the line towards it-

"O-oh! W-what should I look like?" you blurt out, as understanding blossoms behind your closed eyes. "I… don't have to look like my old self? I can… I can change anything!"

The sleek, dark echo of Taylor's voice makes a grunt of acknowledgement. "Does 'Husk-Sculpting Apparatus' sound like it fits?"

You make a wordless cheer as, again, recognition causes the charm to glow brilliantly under your internalized scrutiny, allowing you to see that there are a few smaller parts attached as well. You leave them be for now, because you still need to actually activate the charm…

Actually, you know just what to do.

There's the peculiar sensation for several seconds of shifting bones, muscles, and charms as your body reconfigures itself, but when you open your eyes you aren't nearly as short as you were before. In fact, you are almost exactly five feet, ten inches - allowing you to directly meet the gaze of the holographic Taylor in front of you.

Her lips are pursed and she's giving you a flat look, but she totally deserves it for telling everyone about the Doom Spike.

"Very funny, Tatsu."

You didn't bother trying to 'compress' yourself like you've been doing with your 'old self'...

… so you look exactly like her, only better.

To your side, you notice Prayer's helmet twitching between the hologram and yourself a few times before her voice floats through her armor.

"Be grateful Who does not possess this power, Administrator."

You snort, and it sounds weird in your own ears because it's Taylor's snort, but the hologram is simply staring at you with a rapidly-falling expression.

"He wouldn't-..." she mumbles, before blinking and sagging even further, "... he would give her that."

Oh. You… hadn't really thought about… the next person Taylor might pick? When she'd given her presentation you'd noticed she'd looked at Missy more than anyone, but you'd heard several times Aisha talking about how she was trying to figure out how awesome it would be to get "upgraded." You and Sakura had gotten wrapped up with her enthusiasm, actually, and the two of you had figured that it would either be Missy or Aisha that got the actual honor in the end; Missy because she and Taylor actually felt like sisters, while Aisha might actually be able to live a normal life if conversion fixed her (really scary) power.

Was Taylor still thinking of picking either of them now that you and Sakura were picked? That would be…

... umm…

… weird? You and Sakura are almost eighteen, and you were both planning on joining the Protectorate, but Missy and Aisha are young. Chibi, even if Aisha has bigger boobs than you do. Did.

You're definitely going to have to change your 'old' look, now. Not too much! Sakura needs to recognize you, but Aisha will never stop if the first time she sees you she's still better than the two of you. Is there a way-

Oh! One of the charm's part lit up as you were thinking- ah ha! It's for setting defaults! Neat! Ok, can you just shift- no, you have to turn it off first.

You hold up a hand to cut off Taylor's talking - because she's been talking at you again while you weren't paying attention, and Sakura isn't here to listen for you - and toggle off the charm… and then...

Ugh… it's… stuck? No, it just… takes a lot of… pushing… there! And now you don't even have to keep the charm on anymore to look like this!

Opening your eyes, you actually watch the process happen this time. Holding up your arms, you watch as the immaculate, flawless configurations of seams, glowing lines, and metal filigrees actually… shift into worse patterns. Huh. It makes sense, you guess, but it's still weird to see yourself getting uglier.

Not as ugly as you used to be, though, and you hope Sakura has this charm so you two never have to be like that again.

"It's… you again?" Taylor asks, tilting her head as you see her eyes flash and little shades shutter down over her eyes for a moment before retracting. "Is-... oh, were you testing the submodules? Is this how you want to look now?"

"Ms. Weaver?" Dr. Rose's voice drifts out from the intercom again, sounding more curious than frustrated now. "Care to explain?"

"It's a way for her to change her look permanently, without needing the charm active all the time," she nods, looking at you with consideration. "Try activating your IAT now?"

Well, if she's ok with condense the charm names into abbreviations, you aren't going to feel bad about doing it yourself.

Some essence pushing and a few moments later, you're… well, not the 'new' you. The 'newest' you? Saki 2.5: Good Enough Edition!

"Still noticeably better," Taylor muses, rubbing at her lower lip in thought. "Are you not going to use your old identity?"

Looking over your hands, you see that the small scars and freckles are still where they should be. "Um…" you gaze up, meeting her eyes, "...is there a way to look like this and still keep it?"

The most experienced Alchemical on Earth hums a bit in thought, then casts a gaze back towards the scientists. As if reading her mind, Dr. Rose's voice hastily coughs over the intercom.

"Please do not drag PR into the Testing Chambers, Ms. Weaver. We try to be efficient here."

Rolling her eyes - all of them, this time - Taylor shakes her head and waves them off.

"Fine, fine. Wyld owes me for Thursday, anyway, and her team is in New York so it wouldn't-"

Turning fully back to you, Taylor's mouth gradually splits into a conspiratorial grin - and wow she looks evil like that. She can totally see herself all the time with her bugs, you remember, so does she just not care?

"Oh," she cackles. Cackles!

"Inquisition is going to love you."


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"Riiight," she draws out, eyeing you critically for a moment. "So, you understand that there are potentially valid, therapeutic, legal uses for that charm, and you're fine with waiting until your charms are fully configured to actually test it."
As have been raised many times!
:D

Okay, you definitely should have been paying attention if that's where she wound up with a charm called Personality Override Spike, but it's far too late for asking for her to repeat all that now. Besides, any chance to put off using the Doom Spike in any way whatsoever is fine by you.
Saki is going to need some IEU if she's going to keep zoning out heh.

Her lips are pursed and she's giving you a flat look, but she totally deserves it for telling everyone about the Doom Spike.

"Very funny, Tatsu."

You didn't bother trying to 'compress' yourself like you've been doing with your 'old self'...

… so you look exactly like her, only better.
*Snerk*

App 7 version of Taylor.

...hey, we could have her do the photoshoots~
"Be grateful Who does not possess this power, Administrator."

You snort, and it sounds weird in your own ears because it's Taylor's snort, but the hologram is simply staring at you with a rapidly-falling expression.

"He wouldn't-..." she mumbles, before blinking and sagging even further, "... he would give her that."
Trust In The Maker.

He totally would.
You hold up a hand to cut off Taylor's talking - because she's been talking at you again while you weren't paying attention, and Sakura isn't here to listen for you - and toggle off the charm… and then...
Hmm, Sakura's the listener, the face. Saki's definitely the brains of the operation.

Oh dear.

Not as ugly as you used to be, though, and you hope Sakura has this charm so you two never have to be like that again.
I think she might have a few self confidence issues.
"It's… you again?" Taylor asks, tilting her head as you see her eyes flash and little shades shutter down over her eyes for a moment before retracting. "Is-... oh, were you testing the submodules? Is this how you want to look now?"
Huh. Sounds more like Mobile Sensory Drone if she's using essence vision, I don't think that works through a camera. Does it?

"Please do not drag PR into the Testing Chambers, Ms. Weaver. We try to be efficient here."
Sounds like R&D also fears PR.

"Inquisition is going to love you."
Inquisition before: "Like hell I will!"
Inquisition after : "Yes, my master."
 
...hey, we could have her do the photoshoots~

Sakis prank comes back to shoot her in the leg. :)

Huh. Sounds more like Mobile Sensory Drone if she's using essence vision, I don't think that works through a camera. Does it?

Unless Iris conjured something up, it should not be possible. The max range of MSD is (essence)*miles. So 4 miles for Taylor. SoPA allows for relaying, but even so that would not work (8 MSD is wayyyy too little to go from philadelphia to New York).

I figure we can just say that due to "exalted conceptual bullshit", the essence vision does work through cameras. I mean Prayers anima also works through a recording (if at lesser intensity), so its not like its without precedent.

A more interesting question might be whether Taylor can also use her super vision modes on recordings aswell, or if it requires live feed?

Sounds like R&D also fears PR.

As they should. As Uju pointed out, they are at risk of getting pissed PR/etc after them for their behaviour. :)


I'm still trying to figure out what happened to Sakura. . .

She is in Autochtonia (inside Autos jouten/body). Presumably Auto had prepared 1 body of each alchemical type in advance for the Nowhereuniverse-project.

Then Taylor stuck two people into the Cradle, causing Auto to go "Well, fuck.". He then promptly sent his spirits to steal a spare body from one of the cities. However either he is unwilling (not happy about having to deal with two exaltations) or unable (not enough power) to send Sakura through the cradle aswell, so Sakura is going to be stuck in Autochtonia until we manage to somehow establish contact.
 
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Unless Iris conjured something up, it should not be possible. The max range of MSD is (essence)*miles. So 4 miles for Taylor. SoPA allows for relaying, but even so that would not work (8 MSD is wayyyy too little to go from philadelphia to New York).
Possible the testing center is closer?

Working on recordings and transmissions have the benefit of simplicity though.
Sakis prank comes back to shoot her in the leg.
Victory will be ours!


As they should. As Uju pointed out, they are at risk of getting pissed PR/etc after them for their behaviour. :)
I'm thinking its more along the lines of very scientifically interesting phenomenon they are investigating being barred for reasons of horrifying.
 
I'm surprised no one's brought this up, but now that we can control significantly larger creatures... well, I think you can imagine some of the hilarity now possible.
Does the presence of War charms change how we can use TIE through insect swarms? I mean, would they regard a human-weight equivalent of insects as Taylor-sized for the purposes of releasing/absorbing objects?
What of her MSD drones? Do they count?
......
...
Oh god.

Literally anywhere she can get a connection, criminals now have to worry that a drone, or remote weapons platform or even a Dragonsuit sized suit of armor might show up unannounced.
That she can patrol with non-lethal armed bots, and immediately swap out big guns into the field without even being there.
Enemy Masters with non-sapient minions could have their minions literally spawning Weaverbots whenever she gets an MSD drone into range.

The aquarium in Camden would have literal killer robots rising from the hippopotamus and shark exhibits, and vanishing back into it when done.

Relevant:
She can literally do this with drones and remote power armor now.
Especially if we bother buying Larceny 1.

Girl is earning that S-class reputation bigtime.
Inquisition before: "Like hell I will!"
Inquisition after : "Yes, my master."
Do remember that Saki actually owes them a thank you, along with Chris and Weld.
Narwhal and Blades rescued her, but they rescued her sister.

But yeah, Lisa should be thankful Saki is such a moral girl, else she could simply use Rogue Cell to burn out that negative Intimacy towards Taylor.
And as long as she used Unobtrusive Repartee Baffles, Lisa wouldn't even see it coming.

I wonder what Taylor did Thursday that means Wyld owes her.
IEU probably, to boost her powers.
Or Taylor may have built something for her.

I'm still trying to figure out what happened to Sakura. . .
She is in one of the cities in Autochtonia.
Just as Saki is the ambassador/PR woman here, she is playing ambassador/PR over there.
 
You're definitely going to have to change your 'old' look, now. Not too much! Sakura needs to recognize you, but Aisha will never stop if the first time she sees you she's still better than the two of you. Is there a way-

Oh! One of the charm's part lit up as you were thinking- ah ha! It's for setting defaults! Neat! Ok, can you just shift- no, you have to turn it off first.
An interesting way to work in the App4 "upgrade" vote.

Rolling her eyes - all of them, this time - Taylor shakes her head and waves them off.

"Fine, fine. Wyld owes me for Thursday, anyway, and her team is in New York so it wouldn't-"
Hm. Others have speculated that Taylor may have let Amy be affected by IEU, but for what purpose?

"Oh," she cackles. Cackles!

"Inquisition is going to love you."
Ah, sarcasm and exasperation in the same sentence.

I mean, would they regard a human-weight equivalent of insects as Taylor-sized for the purposes of releasing/absorbing objects?
I would imagine there are limits to this, too broken otherwise.

And as long as she used Unobtrusive Repartee Baffles, Lisa wouldn't even see it coming.
Not Lisa herself, but I suspect her Shard would notice something even if it couldn't tell exactly what.
 
So if you can find me a citation that contradicts what is in the book, sure.
If not, I will continue to go by the book, since it is not obviously stupid.
Despite having been searching for the past few days, I have found little evidence from an official source to support my claims. I still think treating those three Charms as expansions fits both the general aesthetic for Martial Arts styles and explains why they weren't duplicated in the Throne Shadow Style section of the errata, but that's not enough to declare my opinion as the official stance. For now, I'm retracting my claim.
 
Unless Iris conjured something up, it should not be possible. The max range of MSD is (essence)*miles. So 4 miles for Taylor. SoPA allows for relaying, but even so that would not work (8 MSD is wayyyy too little to go from philadelphia to New York).
Depends.
If on her end, Taylor is using a drone controlled by SoPA to connect to this drone via radiosignals, it might count as conceptually close enough for Taylor to use Essence vision through.

I figure we can just say that due to "exalted conceptual bullshit", the essence vision does work through cameras. I mean Prayers anima also works through a recording (if at lesser intensity), so its not like its without precedent.
This could work as well.

A more interesting question might be whether Taylor can also use her super vision modes on recordings as well, or if it requires live feed?
Probably not.

Not Lisa herself, but I suspect her Shard would notice something even if it couldn't tell exactly what.
All her shard will notice is that Saki convinced her that her fear/loathing/whatever was stupid/irrational and that she should stop worrying about it.
It won't notice any magic use.
And changing your mind about stuff is something that humans do all the time.
Despite having been searching for the past few days, I have found little evidence from an official source to support my claims. I still think treating those three Charms as expansions fits both the general aesthetic for Martial Arts styles and explains why they weren't duplicated in the Throne Shadow Style section of the errata, but that's not enough to declare my opinion as the official stance. For now, I'm retracting my claim.
Fair enough.
Thank you for taking the time to check.
 
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She looks at you for a few seconds, then nods slowly.

"Riiight," she draws out, eyeing you critically for a moment. "So, you understand that there are potentially valid, therapeutic, legal uses for that charm, and you're fine with waiting until your charms are fully configured to actually test it."
The dice didn't fuck us over! Hooray!

Also, Taylor is totally on to Saki's attention span.

You didn't bother trying to 'compress' yourself like you've been doing with your 'old self'...

… so you look exactly like her, only better.
This is deliciously petty.

You hold up a hand to cut off Taylor's talking - because she's been talking at you again while you weren't paying attention, and Sakura isn't here to listen for you - and toggle off the charm… and then...
Seriously, get this girl some Ritalin.

Turning fully back to you, Taylor's mouth gradually splits into a conspiratorial grin - and wow she looks evil like that. She can totally see herself all the time with her bugs, you remember, so does she just not care?

"Oh," she cackles. Cackles!

"Inquisition is going to love you."
Also deliciously petty.

She can literally do this with drones and remote power armor now.
Especially if we bother buying Larceny 1.

Girl is earning that S-class reputation bigtime.
And maybe some Stealth. Still, this is quite clever and I approve of Taylor being able to pull a Creed. Need to work that into the next stunt/free action to establish it as part of her repertoire. Hmm. We could totally use it to both reignite the prank war and immediately end aforementioned prank war as the unquestioned victor.
 
However either he is unwilling (not happy about having to deal with two exaltations) or unable (not enough power) to send Sakura through the cradle aswell, so Sakura is going to be stuck in Autochtonia until we manage to somehow establish contact.

Or perhaps finds it convenient to be able to use a 'spare' Alchemical from Nowhere ("Alchemical From Nowhere" I suspect may be Aisha's Alch name) to prepare things from the other side. Someone needs to teach the Autochthonians about the horrors wonders of 'sky' and 'ice cream sandwiches', after all.

...we're going to see Autocthonia emerge with each of the Eight Nations themselves being shipped together in an incredibly convoluted mess of OTPs through OT7s in a bizzare yet seemingly functional array of trashy romance tropes. Sakura will emerge from the portal and her first words upon return will be "Alright, I know what it looks like but in my defense it seemed like a good idea at the time."


Third picture, that Guardsman who is totally null-sweat chummer. Inspiring.


I'm liking the idea of Weaver getting a Dragon-built lab that produces battlefield feng shui drones to do things like teleport people hither and yon, do firefighting, deploy containment foam, project force fields etc. The idea being that any team she is on will have amazing synergy even if she doesn't ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL her teammates (or her enemies, for that matter; there's a lot to be said for "Weaver shows up, your body locks up and marches itself straight to a holding cell") so most of the impitous would be on ensuring that minimal harm to the surrounding area is done as possible. Would also help against Endbringers; Behemoth likes to have fires going everywhere, Leviathan does tidal waves and torrential rain, the Simurgh is a telekinetic that isn't afraid to literally sculpt her chosen battleground to suit her needs. Control of the battlespace is half the battle, and while there's a few Shakers that can help in one fashion or another having reliable hard counters seems reasonable.
 
I'm liking the idea of Weaver getting a Dragon-built lab that produces battlefield feng shui drones to do things like teleport people hither and yon, do firefighting, deploy containment foam, project force fields etc. The idea being that any team she is on will have amazing synergy even if she doesn't ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL her teammates (or her enemies, for that matter; there's a lot to be said for "Weaver shows up, your body locks up and marches itself straight to a holding cell") so most of the impitous would be on ensuring that minimal harm to the surrounding area is done as possible. Would also help against Endbringers; Behemoth likes to have fires going everywhere, Leviathan does tidal waves and torrential rain, the Simurgh is a telekinetic that isn't afraid to literally sculpt her chosen battleground to suit her needs. Control of the battlespace is half the battle, and while there's a few Shakers that can help in one fashion or another having reliable hard counters seems reasonable.

Don't forget about Bonesaw! Since we want to direct her curiosity towards useful projects, why not have her make some custom critters for us? They could even be Wyld-crafted and Bonesaw-upgraded. Want a stealthy creature that can hoover up and deposit large objects when needed? How about a flying puffer fish that changes size as needed? Oh, and put in some protective body weave and backup organs to keep it going, plus fully working hands to operate anything we send through. We have such useful allies.
 
Presumably Auto had prepared 1 body of each alchemical type in advance for the Nowhereuniverse-project.

Then Taylor stuck two people into the Cradle, causing Auto to go "Well, fuck.". He then promptly sent his spirits to steal a spare body from one of the cities.
I don't think so. Remember how Saki's POS was stolen from the same Vats complex Sakura emerged from? I think both of them were built in that vat.

Which also means that two other cities have lost an under-construction Soulsteel and Adamant, respectively. I wonder when they'll start comparing notes...
 
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