... except for, the para-humans of the ABB (Lung has some honour but would you trus him), a fair number of E88, the Merchants, the S9 as you said, the Fallen, the Teeth, Saints group and Teacher, off the top of my head... other than the Undersiders how many sympathetic criminals have been shown?
Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 16: Playful Parasites Pervert Prayer, Perpetuate Plagues
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Ridtom
Good. Bad. I'm the man with the Wand.
I know right?! I was like, come on Battery say something! Or "Does anyone else notice that Weaver is speaking like a robot?"
Even when we left BB no one thinks of even questioning it! Dragon didn't even bat a robotic eye!
It was really confusing when I first read through the quest because it was such a sudden change in demeanor and action thatI'm surprised they didn't place her in Master/Stranger Protocols.
People asked several times, people gave concerned looks several times, we gave at least one explanation for what was going on, we also brushed people off a lot, we were also doing this mid battle, and I think that is when we gave an explanation about what was going, on, sorry busy with other stuff to actualy find references
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Dragon Unchained is actually better than most Exalts. The only Exaltations that would really improve her are the Solaroids, and those are unavailable in this quest.
Well there's Accord and his people. That's one. Faultlline and her people are two. Realistically there would be no shortage of others, but Wildbow doesn't believe in nice things.
Ridtom
Good. Bad. I'm the man with the Wand.
But they never did anything about it. It felt like they just kind of shrugged and said, "Welp, I did all I could! Everyone get used to the new emotionless appearing Taylor!"
I can't speak for Slamu, but I want a Villain or Rogue next for the simple reason that this arc shows we can't trust the Protectorate with knowledge of our capabilities. A social-fu expert that's not Protectorate-affiliated would be a big help in us not getting fucked sideways by PRT knowledge again.
Jack Folstam
Refinement of Copper
Depends on if you expand beyond the US. The "villains" in South America, for example, are apparently the good guys of the region, while the "heroes" are actually government enforcers. Of course, going global would largely require Grom to invent characters whole cloth.
About half the Travellers are sympathetic as well, and Marquis would have been a decent choice for an Independent/Villain Taylor, if he wasn't in the Birdcage anyway. We never find out much about the Adepts, but they apparently have a strict no-killing policy. Mockshow flips sides in Canon, and that's about all we see before whoops, Slaughterhouse 9000 and the end of the world.
Is this about the insecticide?
I would be weird if the PRT didnt create a counter to our abilities, I'm fairly sure they have contingencies in place for every Ward/Protectorate member possibly going villain or being mastered.
Apparently the Undersiders are now Guild sponsored heroes/rogues... so there's that.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
Yea but she would then be on our team for reals. Which is more exciting! We could then proceed with hugging her repeatedly and often.
Well we have mostly interacted with the heroes.
Vex could actually have been a good candidate.
Marquis could still be if we could get him and I am sure there are others.
Yeah.
In Worm, the majority of heroes are good people, and the majority of the villains are bad people. It sometimes feels otherwise, because the story is told from Taylor's POV, who is a well-intentioned villain whose friends are decent to semi-decent villains, and whose early interactions with heroes mostly involve Armsmaster and Shadow Stalker... but at the end of the day, the majority of villains in the story are no better than real-world criminals, and the majority of heroes are trying to do what's right.
Worm is full of moral grayness, but it's not completely gray.
I suspect many of his problematic features would be solved by permanent clarity.
If we're going global anyway, we should Exalt the legitimate ruler of a recognized state. Dragon-override ftw!
No, the contingencies are good. The keeping absolutely everything we told them on network-accessible computers that Jack could get into is bad. Not malicious, but I see it as a reason for us not to keep them fully in the loop going forward.
Jack Folstam
Refinement of Copper
I for one, look forward to exalting Moord Nag. Love to see what Autocthon does with her shard.
I won't say I wasn't thinking it a bit, but we need a really, really, REALLY good social-fu PR Exalt before we even think of doing that.
Edit: Is Paige in the Birdcage yet in this fic?
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Scify
It always starts with a lighthouse.
What's her power again? I keep getting Ash Beast when I try to remember her.
Jack Folstam
Refinement of Copper
Giant shadowy monster centered around a skull. Apparently fueled by killing people, and capable of taking on an Endbringer (for a time, at least).
There's also that Khazili(?) Bey from one of the fights against Tohu/Bohu. Extremely powerful aerokinetic, might actually be a ruler of some kind.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
I don't think being a immortal cybernetic warrior forged at the dawn of time to destroy the architects of reality itself to be 'merely' anything. Exalting her would certainly be an upgrade on her current situation.
Scify
It always starts with a lighthouse.
Because people really want Taylor to have an awesome bullshit magical communist robo-mom/big sister? (I agree with you, by the by, but I'd really like to see Dragon have a chance to give Taylor a proper hug.)
ChandraMagic
I can't be bothered to expend the energy to care
Dude, dude!
Exalt the Black Kaze (I think that's her name). See, genius?
Exalt the Black Kaze (I think that's her name). See, genius?
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If we're recruiting from the Birdcage, why aim low? Exalted GU or bust.
If we're counting Birdcage candidates, that means that we've already co-opted Dragon and a teleporter.
Ooh! We need a Haven member. Give up your pathetic God for the glory that is Autocthon!
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
That is one upside certainly! Another is that an Alchemical with infrastructure support can do everything Dragon can do and more. She wouldn't lose any capability in the long term but gains significant flexibility in the short term.
No, they really can't. If they could, Autocthonia would be a very different place.
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