Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest

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Esha might be able to win the Bluff check but trying to send messages via fish seems like it has too many ways it screw up, especially if the mother is an Oceanid and therefore can understand the fish via Speak with Animals
 
Normally I would argue against texting and driving (or questing in this case), but when traffic moves this slow I don't think it counts as driving at all, so I should be safe for now.

Diplomacy is still the way to go with this encounter, IMO. Fighting or trying to humor the lady is really dangerous, not to mention likely to fail badly.

[X] Tell her what you know, Ohun is not lying, Lina went willingly with the Faceless
 
[X] Tell her what you know, Ohun is not lying, Lina went willingly with the Faceless
 
"Know that you have been deceived man of False Iron, the servant of Ikomi know from the first that you would have to face the Lonely Ones and the hoped that you would do battle, he hoped that you would cause them outrage and that then he could give you over to us as prisoner and recompense for the blood spilled. Thus might the Drowned King have held that which was not his and thus your use would have been at an end."
I may have forgotten... what is being referenced here?
 
She is implying tha Ohun sent you to the fey with the intention of getting you on their bad side so that he could then give them someone who transgressed. That was the first time you met one of the fey... and one of your men got enchanted.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Ohun didn't know us from some random Anwari dick waffle, with whom he probably had to deal with too many on a daily basis as it was. Us showing up needing assistance was a convenient way to maybe get something done without investing his own resources or political capital, with a nice side benefit of even being able to salvage some use from us utterly fucking up the situation. Win-win from his POV.

Shitty from our POV, of course, but we hadn't exactly established our credentials at that point, and Ohun is still Anwari...
 
Aand... it looks like I posted too late to get decent discussion going before I have to turn in for the night again.

*sigh* I keep getting distracted and then it is just hard to focus on getting back in the right frame of mind for writing. Best I can promise is that I will keep trying to find time earlier. Sorry about all this guys.

Anyway good night, see you... hopefully bright and earely with the next update
 
Arc 14 Post 11: Words Under Waves
Words Under Waves

Twenty Eight Day of Elnu-Hamba (Elnu Descendent), 1349 A. L. (After Landfall)

"I had a dream..." you trail off, the water sluggish on your lips. How do you say this to a mother desperate to see her daughter? How do you tell tis to a spirit of powers you cannot even fathom, save that she was able to summon things of air and thunder such as a whole fleet was put to flight and deadly peril. Wordlessly you send the question to Esha,

Alas she seems as weary as you are. "So far I have been wise enough to keep my feet on solid ground, what the daughter of the ocean might do or why I cannot say... but better that it be from truth than falsehood. Those of faerie cannot lie and so they resent most of all that mortals have that power over them."

"I dreamed of her claiming that she went to the Faceless willingly to escape her brother's plans for her," you say at last, silently apologizing all the while for laying blame at the feet of a dead man, but better it be him than those who are not yet beyond harm in this life.

"His plans!" The tone is sharp again, as the blade of a knife. So much for trying to soften the blow.

The look the spirit gives you as you recount that you had heard from Lina, her fears, her plans and what she had asked of you is almost enough on its own to make you raise your shield. In that moment she is not comely in the least, more corpse-bride wrapped in shroud of foam and yet she speaks at last and her voice is soft.

"A liar was He of Many Shapes but not as I thought he was. Much pain might he have been spared if he had been as honest with me as have been. You may go now in peace from this place and tell your kin that they shall meet no more of the Ai-Huu, the children of the storm, on their path into the High Sands..."

Port, you translate automatically, of course they would not think of it the same who live in the sea.. A pity you cannot take her 'generous' offer. "I vowed to seek Ohun and liar or no I would speak with him." And likely free him, you think but do not say. Such cunning sits ill indeed, but you have seen enough of sorcery to know that nothing is more perilous than what you do not know. Mayhap there is yet a way to see this out without blood. If not you had faced worse odds in this company

"Why do you care?" the question is more bemused than angry, a frown upon the uncanny face as though you were some puzzle box that had tumbled into her lap. "What is he to you but the man who near sent you to your death."

You cannot help it... you laugh. "My lady if I were to resent every man who near sent me to my death I would sore lack for company." So saying you tap the hilt of your sword, a soft almost melodic sound. "To live by this is to be sent into peril and to send others into it." More gravely you add. "I made my bargain with Ohun and he kept it true. More I could not have asked."

"So now you join him on the seas in search of wealth and glory..."

"Nay!" you shake your head sharply before she can finish, lady or no, witch or no. "We did not travel for loot and plunder but to make an end of the dark ones who had infested Korman and give it over to its..." almost you say 'rightful queen', but you feel the sharp sting of worry from Esha and stop, realizing your mistake. "People," you finish instead .

As she drifts though the water, seemingly light as a feather in the air the spirit drifts also in thought, speaking again perilously soft "My daughter has spoken to you and by some measure she trusts you. Find her and bring her to me or else return with news and I shall free the old man into your keeping... more if you should to the first I shall give you rewards beyond his paltry freedom, wealth..." she tips her head to Inge, "Knowledge..." Then to Wanderer. "Weapons of fel power even for many have been lost in the sea."

What do you do?

[] Agree to the deal
-[] To find out where Lina is
-[] To bring Lina back

[] Refuse the deal

[] Write in


OOC: Well, for what it's worth at least I am pretty happy with this one as talk heavy updates go.
 
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I don't know about y'all, but this is not a quest I want to take on. Lina's mom seems to have a questionable grasp on sanity and her inability to understand things from a mortal perspective, or her simple disregard for them, does not bode well for continued peaceful dealings.

But outright refusing the deal doesn't seem wise, either... 😳
 
I don't know about y'all, but this is not a quest I want to take on. Lina's mom seems to have a questionable grasp on sanity and her inability to understand things from a mortal perspective, or her simple disregard for them, does not bode well for continued peaceful dealings.

But outright refusing the deal doesn't seem wise, either... 😳
I've got something of a plan. I think we should agree to some kind of deal with Lina's mom, then contact/find Lina herself just to find out if her mother is trustworthy, and then decide what to do from there.

What do you think?
 
I've got something of a plan. I think we should agree to some kind of deal with Lina's mom, then contact/find Lina herself just to find out if her mother is trustworthy, and then decide what to do from there.

What do you think?
I'm not sure. How much contact has she had with her mother? Have they even met before, @DragonParadox?
 
I think we should agree to some kind of deal with Lina's mom, then contact/find Lina herself just to find out if her mother is trustworthy, and then decide what to do from there.
But does this count as a "false vow"?
I think that "bring Lina back" is off-limit, and "find out where Lina is" is in "maybe" category.
Also, how are we supposed to find Lina? We do not have methods to breath under water, and we've already used five potions.
 
Huh just to make sure I got it, boy!King was apparently willing to sacrifice Lina to ???? And she decided to seek refuges with the "formless" who seem to be CN outsiders that are not at all associated with Sea Fey, one of whom is Lina's bio mom?
 
Huh just to make sure I got it, boy!King was apparently willing to sacrifice Lina to ???? And she decided to seek refuges with the "formless" who seem to be CN outsiders that are not at all associated with Sea Fey, one of whom is Lina's bio mom?

He was willing to send her back to her family in the sea... which she was apparently not cool with, so much so that she sought sanctuary with the Formless.
 
Hmm, fish lady may be a bit crazy, but maybe we can reason with her?

Gonna try to channel my inner @Snowfire. Just got to put on my shaggy doggo suit first...

[X] Offer an alternative (and pray)
-[X] "Perhaps we might suggest a different approach to re-establishing contact with your daughter, my lady?"

--[X] "Although considered an adult by her adopted people, Lina remains a young woman, sheltered for all of her life and raised with the sense of unearned entitlement common among Human nobility. She chafes under the authority of others, be they Ohun who acted as regent for much of her life, her brother after he became king, and potentially even you, my lady, her own mother. The prospect of others making decisions for her lead to a desperate and ill-advised alliance with the Formless."
---[X] "Decisions made in the heat of the moment often lead to regret, as Lina has so recently learned. We know she no longer wishes to live among the Formless, but has no easy means of leaving them as she did Ansefu's court, at least not one she deems acceptable from her limited experience and perspective."
----[X] "Lina believes she can return to Lirman and take what she feels is her rightful place on the throne, but she is naive, and according to Ohun, who despite what offenses he has given you remains wise in the ways of the Anwari, the people of the island would never accept her now given her past actions."
-----[X] "What if Ohun agrees to help Lina return to Lirman anyway, with your secret assistance to insure both his continued cooperation and your daughter's safety? She will quickly learn there is no place among the Anwari left for her, and she will have burned her bridges with the Formless, unable to return after forsaking them."
------[X] "This would be the perfect time for you to offer Lina assistance, a place to belong, a refuge from a world which has rejected her. Rather than demanding that she obey and meekly agree to live alongside your people, which might cause her to once more blindly refuse due to youthful rebellion, if you are subtle and patient, she could instead be grateful and accepting of your generosity and wisdom."
 
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I would rather choose "To find out where Lina is" and hope that Lina is more human-minded that her mom and understand that we are contacting with her only to save Ohun.

@Goldfish , what if after some time Lina'll decide that she like to rule? What if Ohun does not want her on throne? This seems as a big assumptions...
 
@Goldfish , what if after some time Lina'll decide that she like to rule? What if Ohun does not want her on throne? This seems as a big assumptions...
If things don't actually work out like I'm proposing, that doesn't really bother me too much. This is mostly relying on Lina's mom not having a good understanding of Human psychology, and her own sense of superiority leading her to thinking everything will go her way. I just want to get out of this without making the Oceanids an enemy, having to make the Formless into enemies, and maybe getting Ohun out of here alive.

Assuming Ohun swears to do his part, the rest of it will be on Lina and her mom.
 
I just want to get out of this without making the Oceanids an enemy, having to make the Formless into enemies, and maybe getting Ohun out of here alive.
Formless already are... not alies, and I think that this proposal eventually could make Oceanids our enemy (if we are unlucky and in bad case scenario, of cause). Mentioning rulers is a sensitive thing:
almost you say 'rightful queen', but you feel the sharp sting of worry from Esha and stop, realizing your mistake.

@DragonParadox , a pair of questions.
1) How are we suppose to breath underwater if we accept quest?
2)
if he had been as honest with me as have been.
Something seems missing. "as you have been"?
 
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