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Yup, and when that happens I'll be happy, but until then, all this Sidereal business is kinda evened out in terms of satisfaction.
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A Vision in Bronze; A Sidereal quest
- Thread starter Gazetteer
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- Fantasy
- Location
- Nova Scotia
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- She/Her
In Discontinuity's defence, the title of this quest is literally a riff on it even if it's not a literal specific vision in the 3e canon, so I can see how one might think it's in play.
I was too enamoured by the pun not to use it, though.
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- florida
Mmm I mean 90% of it is gone yes?
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- some computer lab
Yeah, Arcane Fate is really annoying, and the easiest way to help (Breaking the Wild Mortal) doesn't work on fellow exalts I believe. Clearly the only solution is to speedrun our intimacies for each other to defining to use the Sidereal Marriage Charm which should at least keep us close with each other even though she may not always remember why..
Absolutely. It's also interesting to see young Grace being afraid of the possibility of violence being used on her behalf.
I think there's an element of... concentration of responsibility at play. Heaven or the Realm do awful things, but they do them using legions or fleets or elaborate plans worked out in committee (and theoretically subject to audit and censure), and often drawn out over a protracted process. A Solar, or a few Solars, can cause a lot of damage personally, suddenly, with few resources, based on their own individual judgment. The arguments for either side of that aside, the latter usually feels worse and scarier.
Is 90% of it gone? I know 3e changed a lot of details about the first age and the usurpation. I'm not an expert on the lore but I understand that they really tried to do away with the idea that Creation is doomed without the Solars.
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- an unseen void
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1. No. This was a dramatic flourish from one book in 2E that has not been brought back, and also
2. Even in 2E that has nothing to do with Sidereals or the Vision of Bronze? That number is from the war with the Primordials and SWLiHN, going down long long before the Usurpation.
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- Somewhere!
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okay but it would be funny to blame sidereals for everything
sidereals put the great curse on lunars actually
sidereals personally invented sabotage and are why autocthon is dying
sidereals got the gods addicted to gacha games which is why they're not around much
sidereals put the great curse on lunars actually
sidereals personally invented sabotage and are why autocthon is dying
sidereals got the gods addicted to gacha games which is why they're not around much
I thought it was the combination of that Deathlord created plague and the Raksha invasion?
Which was post-Usurpation, but blaming the Siddies for it means assuming the Solars would have prevented it, instead of looking at the invasion and going "Hold my beer, I can make this so much worse."
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- Nova Scotia
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- She/Her
There's also the element that if the Dowager hadn't died in the Usurpation, her evil corrupted ghost would not have later gone in to swear an oath to the Neverborn and subsequently create a mega plague.l Blaming the Sidereals for not anticipating that is sort of ascribing absurd levels of foresight to them that they only pretend to have, but it is a consequence of their decision making.
There's not really a clean answers here in terms of how good or bad an idea the Solar Purge was.
The Contagion killed 90% of all humans and animals in Creation, according to 3e core. I'm not sure there's any explicit statement of how much of Creation was unmade during the Balorian Crusade.
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As far as I know kamikasei has the right of it.
Though the newly released sidereal book mentioned the great contagion screwing up heaven and the sidereals... badly.
A ton of casualties. Even beyond the whole "90% of God's are now jobless" thing
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- florida
The recovery effort the sidereals had planned was a little stymied by the whole "arcane fate" thing.
At leeaaast according to the 3e book
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- an unseen void
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- Any
i have confused multiple dramatic uses in exalted canon of 90%, mea culpa
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- GTM-3
Aw man I missed the voting window. Well, the option I was gonna vote for won anyway but still, sad.
Gods, the synergy of these two constellations... I love the themes of these two trees A LOT already but the picture they paint together about the understanding of human needs and relationships and the meaning of expectations and obligations... she's gonna be so normal about all of this guys... SO normal
Fwiw, it has been described less as Neverending story The Nothing and more as a tide coming in and then receding, dragging some things with it and leaving behind tidepools and new landforms
Gods, the synergy of these two constellations... I love the themes of these two trees A LOT already but the picture they paint together about the understanding of human needs and relationships and the meaning of expectations and obligations... she's gonna be so normal about all of this guys... SO normal
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My personal take is, as someone who will not be able to download his purchased E3 core rule book until mid January, that the Solar Purge was the least uncertain solution to possibility to creations collective Solar Twilight Castes getting into a game of One-Upmanship over who could rewrite creation on a grand scale better. It was never a good or clean solution, none of their options were, but it was the one they had that they could most count on not to fall apart on them too rapidly.
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