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A Harry Potter Quest: He who was not

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but, huh, so without time echoes,
we currently have a +56 to attack rolls and a +71 to defense when everything except surprise (AFAIK), applies

that's good to know
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.

Bob Saget said:
Yep. Our rolls during crunch time were indeed garbage, at least to start. Thus the pattern continues.
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Over the course of 3 rounds, we rolled about as well as Lupin though. The difference is 3 points.

I doubt the cutting curse would have killed Lupin outright, just as the slowing curse barely paused him for a moment before the werewolf started to fight it back on sheer force. But that was a really good showing, and those Blood Echoes came in clutch. Without that +25, Jacob would have lost the third round and got hurt. For Lupin it meant defeat.
 
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Tabula Rasa said:
Well, most of everything. There was one thing you had not seen before; Peter Pettigrew was in the room next to Lupin. And very suspiciously, he was at the exact spot where Lupin had moved to around half an hour before turning into a werewolf.
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Nice to see that Peter was being smart by messing with the potion :)

[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.

Always complete the time loops.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.

Don't fuck around and find out with paradox's. No thank you.
 
I think it's pretty clear the reason that past Jacob didn't go this route, other than the possible paradox that is.

Pettigrew has a time turner and he is currently unaware that we have a time turner. If we go back and try to stop him and don't immediately disable him then Pettigrew will go back and then we go back and then he goes back and so on and it'll eventually come to who has more time in their time turner (I believe there's six hours?) and I'm not sure I want to bet on him having less seeing as he has an "earlier" iteration of the turner and we've already spent three hours.

Also trying to take him out without killing him while he still has a turner is a huge gamble, doable, we do have 5 echoes being used after all, but stil a massive gamble with a big pay off.

But then the question becomes, if we do that, how do we form a stable loop after we've attacked him?

The main way I can think that we could do to make that work is to fuck him up and then force him into a pact to act as we saw on the map. Something like we agree not to kill him, while he agrees to lead Lupin to the shack and then turn himself into the authorities. Though I think that might be a bit ruthless for our wand.

I'm kinda torn right now because a time war is so damn cool and I can see a way to make it work out, I'm just not sure it's worth the risk.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.

Going for the calm path.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
[X] I will try again – Go back one more hour and try to catch Pettigrew before he does whatever he is trying to do in Lupin's chambers. This was the most obvious choice, even if you asked yourself why Future-You had not done so himself. But you needed to keep in mind; this version of Pettigrew that you were looking for also owns a Time Turner.

I'm going to be a bit contrarian here, mainly because I want a time war. Lets go!
 
AT4467 said:
Malus is gonna carry over since jacob doesn't have time or the potions on hand to heal himself right?
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Technically we have all the time we want for healing... We have a time turner after all :V

But yeah, our next Find Spell and/or Potions should be about adding some healing to our arsenal... Even a fairly minor spell like Episkey would be extremely useful for our adventures
 
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[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.

AT4467 said:
Malus is gonna carry over since jacob doesn't have time or the potions on hand to heal himself right?
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Maybe not? Just because we don't use the time turner to find Pettigrew doesn't mean we can't use it to patch ourselves up, right?
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.

We aren't prepared for the consequences if pettigrew comes after past Jacob.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
I actually think we are going to fight a time travelling Peter, one who was convinced he handled things perfectly and just wanted more time to escape and not having Lupin possibly still following him, if we follow the steps of our future self.

There simply is a problem in the timeline, which is when we are supposed to get another time turner. I think we are going to get it from Peter before getting to the Shack, and that's why our future self precisely showed himself after Pettigrew had already escaped and why Jacob wasn't following him after neutralizing Lupin.

So, I think that, if we follow that road, that's what it is probably waiting for us.

The alternative is that Peter simply dropped it in the forest and we will find it in Jacob's road. I doubt anyone would do that.
 
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There is no way for Jacob to heal himself unless he goes to the Medical Wing and Pomfrey will most certainly want to know how we got hurt and proceed to call Flitwick as our Head of House and Dumbledore.

We have no potions and no spells which we can use. So the malus is most likely going to remain in any future confrontations.
 
tsipouras said:
There is no way for Jacob to heal himself unless he goes to the Medical Wing and Pomfrey will most certainly want to know how we got hurt and proceed to call Flitwick as our Head of House and Dumbledore.

We have no potions and no spells which we can use. So the malus is most likely going to remain in any future confrontations.
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Hey bandages, ice, and peroxide are a thing, we won´t heal but we should have time to patch ourselves a little before going for the next step of ou way
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.

I say reinforce the superiority complex and avoid the paradox.
 
[X] Trust in Yourself – Your Future-You had given you a clear command. He had been in the exact same situation you were in right now, but he had chosen to let Pettigrew do whatever he had wanted to do and attack at the exact moment that he showed you. He had likely gotten the same instructions from a future version of him and so on. An infinite number of stable loops that some version of you, in a faraway time had created for a reason. This had to be the best possible solution, if any version of you had settled with it.
 
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