They would derail any train you mounted them too. No, they serve little use save for fixed defensive locations where you can ground them in multiple hundred tons of earth or steel.
A Golden Island To The West — California ISOT from 2018 to 1850
- Thread starter Instant Sunrise
- Start date
- Original 19th Century Supernatural
- Location
- Canada
What a ballsy thing to say.
*gets threadbanned for bad puns*
Ridli Scott
(Verified acid sweater mutant)
- Location
- The Periphery
No, in fact, it was all of us. Even if we know is impractical something inside of us want to see her sail again, kicking asses and taking names.
BTW same goes with Yamato, Bismarck, and Co.
But as I said in this era the Fletcher is a Battleship analog. Maybe the HMS Conqueror was heavier but in comparison is a slow glass peashooter.
An Overwhelming Amount of Pop Culture
- Location
- Charlotte
Excerpt from Calexit Über Alles
Rise Comics: I was screwing about on the internet the other day and found this
<Yang Cosplayer>
Apparently, said cosplayer is a downtimer.
Rise Comics: That's actually a bit of a surprise.
Silverpower: What, that a downtimer would cosplay at all, or that it happened so fast?
Rise Comics: Both. Mostly the second one.
Rise Comics: @Lemuel_Gulliver check it out.
Lemuel Gulliver: Uptime culture is catching on surprisingly fast, even back east. Although I doubt anyone from home would let themselves be caught in something that...daring.
Silverpower: A Yang with no Blake? What heresy is this?
Rise Comics: Scroll down. There's 4 Blakes, 3 Weisses, and a Ruby.
Silverpower: Oh ho!
Lemuel Gulliver: I have to admit that other than playing Europa Universalis—which was as much a personal curiosity as anything—I haven't really had the chance to be exposed to much uptimer "pop culture".
asqwerty3345: I'd look at stuff from your era in progression until your reach the modern stuff so you can get a feel for it.
Rise Comics: That's a great idea
Silverpower: Not a lot of that stuff survived, tho, in digital form.
asqwerty3345: Enough would've
Lemuel Gulliver: That seems like a bit of a long term project.
Rise Comics: Start with the most prevalent in each era, then go deeper in the eras you're interested in.
Music is a good way to do it.
Rise Comics: And from the 1920s, watch at least 5 films per era
Silverpower: That's actually good advice, yeah
Firebringer 2077: Citizen Kane, Great Dictator, Modern Times
Rise Comics: Casablanca
asqwerty3345: the man with no name trilogy
Rise Comics: Star Wars Original Trilogy
Silverpower: (also, as an anime fan... anime is its own topic. The vast, vast, vast majority of it isn't from uptime America, but uptime Japan. It's an entire medium in its own right and trying to figure it out while you still don't grasp any uptime pop culture will probably end in tears.)
Rise Comics: ^^
Rise Comics: But yeah, watch The Big Lebowski
Crunch Buttsteak: I'm gonna go against the grain here and suggest the 90's Romeo and Juliet adaptation. Because it's a familiar story but it shows the general aesthetic of uptime films. Because that can be very different.
Silverpower: that's actually not a bad idea. At the very least, it gives you the 90s film aesthetic
Crunch Buttsteak: Because y'all are throwing suggestions at the guy and honestly so much of them depend on so much cultural backdrop that without them they fall flat.
Rise Comics: True
Silverpower: Yeah, it's why I'm wavering on whether or not to recommend Heat.
Crunch Buttsteak: Like yeah terminator is a good 2 movies but they also are heavily dependent on the cultural underpinning of the Cold War when we all thought we were perpetually 30 minutes away from dying horribly in a nuclear fireball.
Crunch Buttsteak: Alien is almost Marxist in its reading of a careless company treating workers as expendable in pursuit of profit.
Silverpower: yessss
Rise Comics: It's not far from the 1850s
Silverpower: honestly at some point there needs to be like a masterpost of "essential movie introductions" that we can just point people to
Rise Comics: Yep
Rise Comics: That and/or Pop Culture classes.
Firebringer 2077: Guy's like 5 a decade. You're having him do 20 in the 1980s
Rise Comics: True.
Rise Comics: @Lemuel_Gulliver you okay?
Silverpower: lmao
Silverpower: I stand by my "Alien" recommend, even though it's a bit of an era-hopper, but I realize that most of my recommendations are going to be either 70s-90s action/drama movies or 80s-10s anime
Rise Comics: For fun, add the Cannonball Run. Nothing spectacular plot-wise, but it's a fun romp.
Lemuel_Gulliver: I think what I plan to do is find a few seminal, milestone works of the twentieth and late nineteenth centuries to get a broad idea of the development of culture over the years, and then start on media that's popular right "now" in 2018.
Silverpower: yeah
Rise Comics: Good idea
Lemuel_Gulliver: That should give me some background for it while not overloading my schedule
Silverpower: some downtimers basically just dive right into the mid-late 2010s-era stuff and they're fine, but.
Rise Comics: You do you.
Rise Comics: Just never watch Birth of a Nation.
Rise Comics: It's racist propaganda, even if it did pioneer then-groundbreaking camerawork.
Silverpower: I wish we yeeted that movie.
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Rise Comics: I was screwing about on the internet the other day and found this
<Yang Cosplayer>
Apparently, said cosplayer is a downtimer.
Rise Comics: That's actually a bit of a surprise.
Silverpower: What, that a downtimer would cosplay at all, or that it happened so fast?
Rise Comics: Both. Mostly the second one.
Rise Comics: @Lemuel_Gulliver check it out.
Lemuel Gulliver: Uptime culture is catching on surprisingly fast, even back east. Although I doubt anyone from home would let themselves be caught in something that...daring.
Silverpower: A Yang with no Blake? What heresy is this?
Rise Comics: Scroll down. There's 4 Blakes, 3 Weisses, and a Ruby.
Silverpower: Oh ho!
Lemuel Gulliver: I have to admit that other than playing Europa Universalis—which was as much a personal curiosity as anything—I haven't really had the chance to be exposed to much uptimer "pop culture".
asqwerty3345: I'd look at stuff from your era in progression until your reach the modern stuff so you can get a feel for it.
Rise Comics: That's a great idea
Silverpower: Not a lot of that stuff survived, tho, in digital form.
asqwerty3345: Enough would've
Lemuel Gulliver: That seems like a bit of a long term project.
Rise Comics: Start with the most prevalent in each era, then go deeper in the eras you're interested in.
Music is a good way to do it.
Rise Comics: And from the 1920s, watch at least 5 films per era
Silverpower: That's actually good advice, yeah
Firebringer 2077: Citizen Kane, Great Dictator, Modern Times
Rise Comics: Casablanca
asqwerty3345: the man with no name trilogy
Rise Comics: Star Wars Original Trilogy
Silverpower: (also, as an anime fan... anime is its own topic. The vast, vast, vast majority of it isn't from uptime America, but uptime Japan. It's an entire medium in its own right and trying to figure it out while you still don't grasp any uptime pop culture will probably end in tears.)
Rise Comics: ^^
Rise Comics: But yeah, watch The Big Lebowski
Crunch Buttsteak: I'm gonna go against the grain here and suggest the 90's Romeo and Juliet adaptation. Because it's a familiar story but it shows the general aesthetic of uptime films. Because that can be very different.
Silverpower: that's actually not a bad idea. At the very least, it gives you the 90s film aesthetic
Crunch Buttsteak: Because y'all are throwing suggestions at the guy and honestly so much of them depend on so much cultural backdrop that without them they fall flat.
Rise Comics: True
Silverpower: Yeah, it's why I'm wavering on whether or not to recommend Heat.
Crunch Buttsteak: Like yeah terminator is a good 2 movies but they also are heavily dependent on the cultural underpinning of the Cold War when we all thought we were perpetually 30 minutes away from dying horribly in a nuclear fireball.
Crunch Buttsteak: Alien is almost Marxist in its reading of a careless company treating workers as expendable in pursuit of profit.
Silverpower: yessss
Rise Comics: It's not far from the 1850s
Silverpower: honestly at some point there needs to be like a masterpost of "essential movie introductions" that we can just point people to
Rise Comics: Yep
Rise Comics: That and/or Pop Culture classes.
Firebringer 2077: Guy's like 5 a decade. You're having him do 20 in the 1980s
Rise Comics: True.
Rise Comics: @Lemuel_Gulliver you okay?
Silverpower: lmao
Silverpower: I stand by my "Alien" recommend, even though it's a bit of an era-hopper, but I realize that most of my recommendations are going to be either 70s-90s action/drama movies or 80s-10s anime
Rise Comics: For fun, add the Cannonball Run. Nothing spectacular plot-wise, but it's a fun romp.
Lemuel_Gulliver: I think what I plan to do is find a few seminal, milestone works of the twentieth and late nineteenth centuries to get a broad idea of the development of culture over the years, and then start on media that's popular right "now" in 2018.
Silverpower: yeah
Rise Comics: Good idea
Lemuel_Gulliver: That should give me some background for it while not overloading my schedule
Silverpower: some downtimers basically just dive right into the mid-late 2010s-era stuff and they're fine, but.
Rise Comics: You do you.
Rise Comics: Just never watch Birth of a Nation.
Rise Comics: It's racist propaganda, even if it did pioneer then-groundbreaking camerawork.
Silverpower: I wish we yeeted that movie.
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Katamariguy
Pessimist. Contrarian. Naysayer.
- Location
- Upstate NY
Wonder if some downtime Dickens fans would rejoice at having a flood of fully completed novels to read without to struggle with the cliffhangers. (Is it wrong to compare him with Stephen King?)
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- Location
- the Literature Club
King's the Green Mile was published serially just lie Dickens's work, so why not?
FailLord
2050 lb bombs?
- Location
- very high up
Well battleships did give history one crazy duel at Jutland.
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The math for apportionment in the house is, to be fair, already completely fucked. California is literally over half the population of the US.
It'll be a miracle to reach 1860 without the crisis already boiling over, but the US is ultimately facing a choice between letting California go quietly, or making constitutional amendments to completely destroy the principle of proportional representation. It'll likely choose the former to try to keep at least some stability for itself.
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Pretty sure this also means they just sorta elect the next US president by stint of having 50%+1 of the electoral college.
By my estimate, they would have 137 (or 125 - I implemented two apportionment algorithms and can't remember which is which) of the 307 electoral votes - not enough to elect the president all by themselves, but enough to play kingmaker or throw the election to the house (which CA would control, though the CA delegation may not necessarily be fully unified) at will.
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- Location
- SF Bay Area
Two words: 1852 election...
Technically California will be voting in it. Imagine the chaos
Shaithan
Re-class is happiest class
- Location
- The worst part of Germany
No. That idea is just nonsensical.
There's planes and helicopters for that kind of thing. 70 years old rifles are pointless.
When the Iowas were reactivated in the 80ies, they achieved 0.2 rpm on their guns. One shot every 5 minutes. I would wager that these days most people would be incapable of actually aiming the thing.
She is a museum, stays a museum and every suggestion of putting her into active or passive service in whatever role is nonsense.
Allow me to expand on this.
The guns liners, which is the insert placed within the barrels outer shell, and responsible for dealing with the heat and pressure of the explosion, are so god-dammed old they could just as likely break as they could just melt after one shot.
There is not ONE factory or industrial complex that has the knowledge ,machinery or dies needed to make a single replacement liner of that size. And in order to shoot effectively that gun, you need to replace a liner roughly every 200 shots, and the first 5 will drop its effectiveness by nearly half.
There also does not exists any replacement liners, they were scrapped, and even if miraculously Wisconsin, Missouri and New Jersey showed up, their liners would be in just as a bad shape.
ComissarPancakes
Pan-Galactic Motivational Officer
- Location
- The State of Golden Fires
This would be a major issue if you could even get them into a state to fire. When they defanged her, the workers poured cement down her barrels to seal them up.
Instant Sunrise
Queen Shit of Liesville
- Location
- Los Angeles
- Pronouns
- her/she
Probably.
Either way. This is by author's fiat. Reactivating the Iowa is not going to happen. Ever. Word of God.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Since we're on ships anyway, what kind of ship building industry does California have? Big container ships are pretty useless at the moment after all so there's a need for smaller cargo vessels.
Instant Sunrise
Queen Shit of Liesville
- Location
- Los Angeles
- Pronouns
- her/she
NASSCO in San Diego existed pre-ISOT, and San Pedro is turning one of its berths into a shipbuilding facility as well.
- Location
- The Old Dominion
As I recall though you also have Fort Apache with totally not Custer stupidly getting his command wiped out ignoring warnings and I am sure there are other films where he isn't in such a good light.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Not many, as you'll find his widow was pretty damn active in whitewashing his past and military record when she was alive, so.....
- Pronouns
- She/Her
On the other hand, some enterprising uptimer soul may rectify that situation
Instant Sunrise
Queen Shit of Liesville
- Location
- Los Angeles
- Pronouns
- her/she
The most SOD breaking part of the Trump City snippet is Reddit shutting down r/the_donald.
Libertarian tech bros not giving hateful shits a megaphone? More unrealistic than an ISOT happening IRL.
With the right wing media sphere severely diminished, and without the republican-controlled uptime Congress, spez's comments about being a slaveowner come the breakdown of society looked REALLY BAD in the context of post-event California and he was forced out from Reddit, and the new admins decided that since there wasn't an uptime Congress to be hauled in front of for "censoring conservative voices," anymore, they applied the same standards to T_D as any other sub, which got them banned very shortly.
- Location
- France
- Pronouns
- She/They
Reddit getting cleaned up? Utopian timeline you've got there.