Who knows? Perhaps Willas is possessed by some demon and Demon!Willas killed Mace? Anything could be possible.
A Dragon of the North VIII: Whispers of War
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Who knows? Perhaps Willas is possessed by some demon and Demon!Willas killed Mace? Anything could be possible.
How about this: Oberyn was sent here to somehow combine a marriage between Margaery and f!Aegon to gain the Reach army; he visits Willas (who had/has a relationship with him, Droman can confirm) to know what Mace plans to do and after hearing that he kills him with poison. Willas acts oddly because he suspects his lover's involvement even though he has no proof.
Charcolt
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Definitely some interesting stuff. Will rehead when I get home and offer my full thoughts.
Mace dying is lucky though. The Tyrells might back Renly later but they won't be backing Joffrey.
And everybody called a Sand Snake being the whore that killed Joffrey. Nymeria, not Tyene though.
Mace dying is lucky though. The Tyrells might back Renly later but they won't be backing Joffrey.
And everybody called a Sand Snake being the whore that killed Joffrey. Nymeria, not Tyene though.
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lol, there's tons of things that can be done to ensure the Lannisters don't feel overly isolated. Don't worry about that.
Is that such a bad idea?
An isolated Tywin is a desperate Tywin who might rebel so we can crush him, get lots of money from Casterly Rock, send wards to ensure CK will be inherited by loyalist families.
Removing the Lannister's ambitions from Westeros would do wonders for the future.
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It depends what you want really. Tywin can be made to feel isolated (though even then he would be incredibly unlikely to rebel) and he can be made to feel like he hasn't lost everything and still has a way back.
A Nation's Virtue
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An isolated Tywin is less likely to rebel. He's not stupid, and he's not going to throw everything away just because the Rock has fewer allies.
And why would he rebel if the marriages he wanted actually happen?
It's more likely he would do it after being isolated and hearing that there are no more Lannister royal heirs and his daughter cuckolded the king with her brother.
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He won't rebel either way.
A Nation's Virtue
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He's wholly unlikely to rebel as things stand. The only way I see him rebelling is if fAegon/Martells/Tyrells* reach out to him to join in their plot, and we know that won't ever happen.
*That's if WIllas is in on this deal.
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dude wrong daedra
Never said it like that, but the crusades also recruited common man who were not soldiers up until that but went & signed up because, the church told them that this was gods will & thats what I mean, the faith militia doesn't have many qualities, but is has quantity as a quality in itself
Okay then I cam't beat some half dead people at their lowest, I'm okay with that but then again I'm not a trained soldiers with a serious case of hatred against them, only saying that if the army is properly worn down, if they lose their will to fight, to win then quantity doesn't mean nearly as much a one might think
I meant the more famous the witch hunts, which relied mostly on the common man to root out any 'witches', then the original purpose & I am honestly sorry if I didn't make that clear
Not talking about knight, hedge knights or some kind of noble, but I am talking here about honest to god seconds sons of farmers and smiths who just want to make a living and thus sign up when their lord comes around & recruits some soldiers for a garrision, I am talking about infantery dude because thats what unsullied are, & in that they are the best you can get
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And we should care because...?
No, really, I'm curious. Because if you're not getting this, let me make it simple: Tyrion is dangerous. He is not to be trusted, not to be considered a friend or an ally. Do you remember how much shit it took to finally turn him against his family in canon?
We do not work to his benefit, we only work towards our own, and if need be, the stability of the realm. Should those benefits happen to coincide, well, fine by me, but otherwise I see no point in trying to help Tyrion out with anything, save pushing him towards an early grave.
A Nation's Virtue
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Levies were a standard of many medieval armies of the time, so it wasn't just the crusades.
Even levies aren't going to be onesidedly wrecked by them due to most Westerosi lsoldiers actually wearing armor.
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True, but the family that actually like him, Jaime, is already dead & we would also then be part of his family, as good-somthing-or-whatever and we saved his life & helped him a great deal, thus I don't think it would be such a bad situation as in canon,
Hachichiyyin
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^That bears repeating.
God and the Snake
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Nope. This is way to obvious.
Remember, Willas is the son the Queen of Thorn's respects. He wouldn't be idiotic enough to kill his own father while he was present in the same room alone.
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Your AU of ADOTN is certainly happier than this canon one, Charcolt
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God and the Snake
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Can you give a quote for this? One that isn't from rolz, preferably.
HanEmpire
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Didn't say we should care, I said I care. I like Tyrion as a character, and IC Jon seems to as well.
It is natural to want betterment for those you like, Game of Thrones or not.
In terms of realpolitik I agree with you fully. I just wish it didn't have to be that way.
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Yeah but you can't deny that the crusades were able to recruit much more then what would have been normal due the religious influence that came with their cause
never said that, only that the unsullied as military-personal are higher quality then your standard infantery mook, the fact that the mook has a much better equipment isn't even touched upon,
that however doesn't mean I think they are overall superior as they have many disadvantages as well
1. they don't wear armor
2. their moral is constant (which is both good & bad, while it cannot fall, it cannot rise either, they are already at their best so to speak)
3. they would be terrible officers/lieutenants
Sadly all the relative quotes are from Rolz (said in a not-trollish way to boot) but sure, let's ask him here:
@Droman Is it true that Willas is homosexual and had a love affair with Oberyn?