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A Dragon of the North VIII: Whispers of War

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EliudFS1 said:
Guys, he is a frair Tuck expy from Robin Hood.

I would be worried if our name was Sir Guy of Gisborn, but we are not.

Hell we even have Ser Robin Locksley in our party! (AKA Robin Hood)

Would frair Tuck betray Robin? I don't think so.

Also on a similar line of thought, Droman did mentioned there might be a Ser Guy in the Reach. Could be somthing there.
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Remember Dayne from the book? Most honorable knight ever. He would never support a rapist.
 
SwordsmanofS said:
Droman rated this post informative. Either he's trolling again, or there is something to be looked at.

Again, it may behoove us to do a background check on Tuck while we're in Oldtown. It'd be easiest to do it while we're here instead of later, and should be relatively easy.

Better to be safe than sorry. The lesson of Arthur Dayne was to be careful with those sworn to one's service.
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Droman rates posts Insightful when they're correct and Informative when it's just interesting logic. Andy's basically the thread's crazy conspiracy theorist uncle.
 
andy50 said:
Remember Dayne from the book? Most honorable knight ever. He would never support a rapist.
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Well, he also was best friends with Raegar. He looked over his flaws.

Tuck is more of a blank slate at first. All we know of it is what he tells us and what we find out from other people.

What I know is that he isn't well liked in the citadel or among the measters (see Bran fostering rejection), we know he has an absurd number of measter chains, and we know he used to be related in some way to the faith.

I think all the faith analogies and his experties is simply because he is an expy of a (Frair). A religious monk. Being religious is part of his character.

That's how I see it. Granted he could be an emmisary of the faith militant in a secret mission to rid the south of "tree worshipping savages".

I admit I would find it hilarious.
 
EliudFS1 said:
Well, he also was best friends with Raegar. He looked over his flaws.

Tuck is more of a blank slate at first. All we know of it is what he tells us and what we find out from other people.

What I know is that he isn't well liked in the citadel or among the measters (see Bran fostering rejection), we know he has an absurd number of measter chains, and we know he used to be related in some way to the faith.

I think all the faith analogies and his experties is simply because he is an expy of a (Frair). A religious monk. Being religious is part of his character.

That's how I see it. Granted he could be an emmisary of the faith militant in a secret mission to rid the south of "tree worshipping savages".

I admit I would find it hilarious.
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My main issue is, such a competent maester idea for helping us is getting priests of a different religion into our lands. Who we've had bad relation with. As there are obvious possible drawbacks later down the road. He has to know why this could have draw backs later down the line.
 
andy50 said:
My main issue is, such a competent maester idea for helping us is getting priests of a different religion into our lands. Who we've had bad relation with. As there are obvious possible drawbacks later down the road. He has to know why this could have draw backs later down the line.
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You are assuming we are seeking to convert the population.

The building of a sept was proposed by the players. Frair Tuck provided guidance and advice.

I grant you that smallfolk being governed by an old god follower might be the recepy for problems. However the old gods and the faith of the seven share a tolerance unlike any from the real world.

Look, if we ever have to face disloyalty from him, we just bribe him with beer...



He is not your typical sep... I mean frai... I mean maester!
 
andy50 said:
I was there when were rolling for maesters, it never happened, I assure you it was a series of 1d10's
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I remember there being a roll of 1d10 to roll for the number of maester chains he had.

We got a 3 on a 1d10-3 for magic, hence the zero.

We also got a 1 on geography, giving rise to the joke that he is great at politics, just don't expect him to send ravens to the correct places. :p
 
andy50 said:
If we discover he's honeydicking us now we can use hightower connections to get a good maester. Never a better time.
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I never thought I'd see that word outside of that stupid, yet hilarious movie.

andy50 said:
Remember Dayne from the book? Most honorable knight ever. He would never support a rapist.
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He wouldn't support a rapist, unless that rapist was his King or his prince. That's pretty apparent from canon, given he loyally served Aerys.
 
andy50 said:
My main issue is, such a competent maester idea for helping us is getting priests of a different religion into our lands. Who we've had bad relation with. As there are obvious possible drawbacks later down the road. He has to know why this could have draw backs later down the line.
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So, just to be clear - helping to offset our poor relations and accomplish the goals we laid out is one of your primary problems with Tuck?

You still haven't satisfactorily laid out those "obvious drawbacks" to replacing the fake priests with real ones to improve the quality of health care available to our people, and ensuring the local religious infrastructure is reliant on our donations and thinks positively of us instead of otherwise.
 
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If the religious relationship where to sour, we'll be left in a very awkward position where the priests could kick up a rebellion.

Also Tuck may or may not be starting a faith splinter group, call the crimson sept, and that is the secret organization in the vale.
 
Guys I am not even a day away & when I come back, we are honestly short of considering our maester a traitor

WHAT THE FUCK?!?

Guys I think you have been playing a certain Game waaaay to long, I think it would be better if we all just lay down for a moment look back and think what we just did & then you Guys better be ashamed or so the seven may help me, I am going sell you lot to the white walkers as underpaid second rate minions

Seriously what up with this kind of paranoia guys & gals, it honestly disturbs me just how asinine your reasoning can be when some of you are bored
 
sidestory said:
Guys I am not even a day away & when I come back, we are honestly short of considering our maester a traitor

WHAT THE FUCK?!?

Guys I think you have been playing a certain Game waaaay to long, I think it would be better if we all just lay down for a moment look back and think what we just did & then you Guys better be ashamed or so the seven may help me, I am going sell you lot to the white walkers as underpaid second rate minions

Seriously what up with this kind of paranoia guys & gals, it honestly disturbs me just how asinine your reasoning can be when some of you are bored
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There are no guys & gals who consider Tuck to be a traitor. Only andy50.
 
Here's my interpretation of Jon's song "The Wolf in the Mountains". Big thanks to Vesvius and MOG and some other dudes in rolz for help on this.

The Wolf in the Mountains

Jon Snow of Stark, to make his mark,
In Mountains of the Moon.
A Northern gale, in Arryn's Vale,
The Realm shall know him soon.

The Valemen march, the Valemen hunt,
To pay a lasting debt.
To sally forth, to march for war,
To end a lasting threat.

On winding paths, in mountains tall,
The Valemen bravely tread.
A narrow pass, and icy winds,
A fortress looms ahead.

A sturdy keep, of First-Men make,
Is atop the rocky crest.
In empty halls, and stoney walls,
A mountain clan does nest.

These tribal brutes, these Dogs of Stone,
Near half a thousand strong.
The silence ends, a trumpet sounds,
Wulf rises from the throng.

An aging king, a mighty lord,
A warrior in the snow.
He walks alone, and says his piece:
"You have 'till dawn to go."

Not yet a man, not yet a knight,
Yet firmly unafraid.
A boy in flesh, a wolf at heart,
Jon holds aloft his blade.

A gift of iron, for bread and salt:
So guest right is secured.
They speak and jest, with good rapport,
Yet battle is assured.

The choice is made, the verdict clear:
In combat they shall meet.
The victor free, the loser bound:
A servant in defeat.

To duel alone, to clash unhelped,
The age-old test of might.
A giant axe, a sword and shield,
And thus begins the fight.

The mountain man, the northern youth,
So start their show of force.
A wicked slash, too quickly done,
The Wulf is sent off course.

The wolf does bite, but has not won,
The knights begin to cheer.
The tribesman strikes, the wolf fights back,
The clansmen start to jeer.

With pierced limbs, and bloody wounds,
The Wulf fights through the pain.
A lunging strike, a vicious blow,
Jon's shield is cleaved in twain.

A darting wolf, his mighty prey,
One final clash of steel.
Two weary men, but one stands tall.
Jon orders Wulf to kneel.

A stare exchanged, from man to man,
One must be called to heel.
A boy in flesh, a wolf at heart.
Jon orders Wulf to kneel.

They reach accord, they both agree,
To carry out the deal.
The wolf does bite, and has now won-
Jon orders Wulf to kneel.

Jon orders Wulf to kneel.
 
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@sidestory What Cxjenious said. Droman is only humoring Andy you know, most of us don't buy into his conspiracy bullshit. On another note good work Corncake.
 
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