To summarise the information we receive from him, his group is former Russian military, now working for a private individual they do not know the name of. There are twelve field agents, plus a support team of four who are not on site, and in addition their employer has sent someone to accompany them. They are to recover someone from Academy City who called in an emergency evacuation, which was escalated to a critical emergency about an hour ago as they reported they had been found by some high-threat inhabitant of Academy City and had barely escaped with their life. They have an escape route planned via the basement, and this hostage scenario is designed to cover-up the escape and the involvement of their employer because part of the team is planting data theft devices in a bank on the premises.
I find it acceptable course of action, but I'm somewhat disappointed that hostage scenario never works in Academy City. I mean that if you live in a world where some superpower wielding espers can take all your team out in a one blow, you just should think for few minutes and decide what technical device (hard to disable) you should attach to hostages to ensure their death in case of that blow, so that hostage scenario really worked even against that espers. It is a question of your team survival in case of bad scenario after all. I think it is just due to "former Russian military group" was hired for this mission in some other world and had no idea what dangers could await for them in Academy City.

By the way expendable, cheap (?) and easily reproduced clones who share their memories and battle experience should be highly prized by any country military even if they do not have any other powers at all. Frankly speaking when I heard about killing full infantry division for the sake of Accelerator ascension I almost cryed. It was such a waste =/

Ah. By the way just that "describing thing" could make about 10k of guys quite happy in their family life in the future ;)
 
I find it acceptable course of action, but I'm somewhat disappointed that hostage scenario never works in Academy City. I mean that if you live in a world where some superpower wielding espers can take all your team out in a one blow, you just should think for few minutes and decide what technical device (hard to disable) you should attach to hostages to ensure their death in case of that blow, so that hostage scenario really worked even against that espers.
It's Academy City. The people that run the place would just kill you and let the hostages die, if it came down to it. A hostage scenario that 'works' doesn't actually do anything except insure greater collateral damage in the long-term. At most it delays things slightly if you're lucky enough that the first responders to the crime aren't clued in.
 
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Not first-name basis, in Western Order, it's Mikoto Misaka, so lastname basis still, but they do seem familiar...
Right. Oops.
See? Only recognized her after Misaka did her describey thing. Also Yui did punch her in the solar plexus and put her into an armlock, so escalating doesn't seem that strange.
Also notable--thanks! That she would call for armed extraction as a direct result of the encounter still seems unlikely. Misaka Yui isn't threatening enough on her own to make that worthwhile, and the Railgun is too threatening for them to not have planned for her. If there's a connection, it would almost have to be that Yui's presence caused Panda Girl to deduce something else that we don't know about, and that seems unlikely too. I mean, if Panda Girl were badly informed and didn't know there was any Network presence in the city, that would kinda make sense, but not really.

On the other hand, Panda Girl seemed kinda frantic, what with the dynamic entry to a changing room. I bet she was already on the run for whatever reason, when she bumped into Yui.
 
I'm having a hard time figuring out how that verbal tic works. Is it to narrate to the Network? Or to other people? It seems like its the latter, right or wrong?
 
I'm having a hard time figuring out how that verbal tic works. Is it to narrate to the Network? Or to other people? It seems like its the latter, right or wrong?
The way I understand it is like this: Network-internal communications carry an ACCURATE, CONTROLLABLE subchannel for tone and emotional content, facial expressions and body language are less reliable and easier to misinterpret. The describy thing is an attempt to do a limited replication of that.
 
Or to other people? It seems like its the latter, right or wrong?
The Network can go all the way up to full sensory sharing. Its default communication protocol, according to ES, IIRC, is more like extremely precise empathy than verbal messages, though it includes both. The describe-y thing is an attempt to put some of that missing content back into her spoken utterances. Her monotone voice, and this is my own confident speculation rather than anything I recall ES having stated, is the result of having used Network protocol rather than vocal inflection to convey emotional context, as long as the Network has lived.

Someone really should have remembered to install that kind of thing with the rest of the Testament package... of course the Network "wasn't supposed to have emotions in the first place" according to Raildex canon, but that seems like it can't possibly be literally true and internally consistent. Human brains don't work like that.
"No, I don't mind that you forgot our one month anniversary. Misaka says, obviously lying." said Misaka, obviously lying.
Related thought: This rhetorical device, though awkward compared to the Network Protocol it imitates, really does seem to have been effective for communicating with her roommates. Furthermore, it becomes even more useful to a listener who has nonjudgementally accepted that that's how Yui talks. Eiko seems to have accepted that.

Soooo, what are the odds that Eiko and Yui will talk more in the near future, likely on Eiko's initiative, and what are the odds that the extra context conveyed by Yui's Network!speech will cause Eiko to deduce that Yui has been honestly worried about being murdered by her roommates?
 
"No, I don't mind that you forgot our one month anniversary. Misaka says, obviously lying." said Misaka, obviously lying.
It is a course of action already. Much better than "guess what happened".
They're going to be pulling their hair out every time one of them ends a sentence with "Misaka says truthfully".
"Technically it wasn't a lie" is much easier to get through than a common lie. If you are used to it.
Making soldiers of children is bad, and you should feel bad.
Just get them grow to 20+ and that wont look that way. Plus half of year on personal training to get acceptable physical condition. Retirement plan after ten years of service. Normal conditions and good commanders. They will have much more chances to survive that any common soldier. And it is much better to be a soldier than a guinea pig. Star wars clones approves.
 
Someone really should have remembered to install that kind of thing with the rest of the Testament package... of course the Network "wasn't supposed to have emotions in the first place" according to Raildex canon, but that seems like it can't possibly be literally true and internally consistent. Human brains don't work like that.

Well they have emotions, like the... umm... hurt, that was from being told by the researchers that they wouldn't want to see their own clones, and the enjoyment of cats, but nothing that would impact the battles, mainly fear.

Might be remembering wrong though...

EDIT: Also, look at Rensa and Febrie, and Kihara Dog. I think Academy City can make brains however they want at this point?
 
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The Network can go all the way up to full sensory sharing. Its default communication protocol, according to ES, IIRC, is more like extremely precise empathy than verbal messages, though it includes both. The describe-y thing is an attempt to put some of that missing content back into her spoken utterances. Her monotone voice, and this is my own confident speculation rather than anything I recall ES having stated, is the result of having used Network protocol rather than vocal inflection to convey emotional context, as long as the Network has lived.

Someone really should have remembered to install that kind of thing with the rest of the Testament package...

that might have been delbrite. phase one of the plan involved more or less feeding most of the clones into a meat grinder, taking steps to make it harder for others to emphasize with the SISTERS probably made it easier to find staff who would be ok with that. having them all talk in a monotone, and have trouble using/understanding body language would make it easier to see them as less than human.
 
Human brains don't work like that.
...think about the context of this assertion. I don't think the source author much cares about the actual functionality of the human brain, as evidenced by... well, too many thing to mention, really. It's Kamachi; to enjoy it you must be able to disengage the desire to have things like reasonable math and science, common sense and relevant adult characters. ^_^;

Soooo, what are the odds that Eiko and Yui will talk more in the near future, likely on Eiko's initiative, and what are the odds that the extra context conveyed by Yui's Network!speech will cause Eiko to deduce that Yui has been honestly worried about being murdered by her roommates?
Hmm... i give it less than 50%, as Eiko has also given Yui tons of new reasons to be even more wary of her in particular- though given the very specific statement she made in her diary about the truths she has managed to hide from Eiko, i'm sort of hoping that she has a breach of security at some point so one of her roomates can read it.
 
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Related thought: This rhetorical device, though awkward compared to the Network Protocol it imitates, really does seem to have been effective for communicating with her roommates. Furthermore, it becomes even more useful to a listener who has nonjudgementally accepted that that's how Yui talks. Eiko seems to have accepted that.

Soooo, what are the odds that Eiko and Yui will talk more in the near future, likely on Eiko's initiative, and what are the odds that the extra context conveyed by Yui's Network!speech will cause Eiko to deduce that Yui has been honestly worried about being murdered by her roommates?
I like to think Eiko will instead adopt the Misakas' superior mode of speech. Primarily to aggravate Sumi.
 
Hi. I love this fic. I'm also a friend of Shanejayell who posts here. I shall be keeping watch on this thread for updates. Now I need to go to bed. Bye now.
 
Just skimmed through the Sisters appearances in the LNs... Given Misaka 10032's strenuous activity in OT Vol 8 leading to her coughing blood, I'm gonna speculate that the same will happen to Yui at some point during the hostage... 'rescue'? I suppose is the right word?
 
*waves hi*

I just finished the latest english release of the Index novels, that explains how Last Order meets Accellerator. It's a very good example of how Network logic does not equate to normal logic. *lol*
 
*waves hi*

I just finished the latest english release of the Index novels, that explains how Last Order meets Accellerator. It's a very good example of how Network logic does not equate to normal logic. *lol*

...

The generic CMI thread is somewhere over in that direction *points anywhere but here*.
 
Entry 23
Entry 23

I am back. I am still Misaka-10901. Misaka-11111 is still alive. Coconut and lime is not as sweet, but I think I still like it.

Narration will therefore resume, after the three asterisks.

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I heard the supersonic crack of a railgun while Abe Eiko and I were making our way back to where we left the others. The original appears to be enjoying herself. On the other hand, she must be facing quite tough opponents if she is using her railgun power. She does not like to use it against soft targets, because they die if hit by hypervelocity projectiles. The original does not want to kill people, which is one of the many ways that she is better than the Accelerator.

Ways that she is worse than the Accelerator include the fact that she has not killed us once. We consider that a positive trait, although we suspect that Academy City authorities disagree and are of the opinion that it is a negative personality trait. We consider that to be a negative personality trait of theirs. We do not know if they know that we hold that opinion of them, but we have not been formally reprimanded for it as of the date that I had Misaka-10901 transcribe this.

"I don't like this," Abe Eiko says quietly. "We need to get the fuck out of here, Misa-Misa."

We are not sure how one is supposed to get the 'fuck' out of anything. And Abe Eiko is too young to be legally engaging in sexual intercourse. However, given her attitude towards vending machines, it is possible she is not following the law. Regardless, the Network is almost certain that she is not 'the fuck' in anywhere at the present time. We are sure we would notice.

"'Perhaps,' Misaka says," I say, because I am not sure how to respond. Network polling is inconclusive.

"You still haven't put your gun away," she reminds me.

"'I am aware of that,' Misaka says," I say. I do not wish to be disarmed until necessary.

"Well, I think," she begins, and then her face turns pale. "Oh crap," she says, pulling me once again into an alcove. I wish to poke my head out, but she is holding me tight. Abe Eiko is prone to profanity and use of irregular expressions. We were not loaded with profanity, but we have examined its existence since we have heard more informal dialogue. We do not really comprehend the purpose of it. It seems to be used mostly to express fear, anger, worry, or other such emotions. This could be expressed in a superior way if people were to adopt our manner of speech. I decide to demonstrate this to Abe Eiko.

"'What is the matter?' Misaka asks, fear in her voice," I said.

"Around the corner," she whispers. "The boy standing over the two unconscious Russians?"

"'What boy?' Misaka whispers," I whisper back, because she was still holding me tight. That was enough to get her to release her grip. The Network observed that she is physically stronger than I am. We will remember this.

Poking my head around the corner, I see Kamijou Touma standing over a Russian. He is massaging his hand. From the available evidence, it would appear that he has charged two adult men armed with guns and punched them repeatedly. Such actions are not in line with advisable infantry combat doctrine, but he appears to make it work for him.

"'I see the boy,' Misaka says," I say, leaning back in. I am trying to ignore Misaka-10032's repeated requests that I approach him. She is nagging.

***

I would like to add that Misaka-10032 is being very vocal across Network communications and that Misaka-11111 is not exaggerating or complaining, unlike when she whines about being hungry because she forgot her lunch. She was very loud when she whined about that.

It was all her fault for forgetting her lunch. Broadcasting her hunger was simply antisocial.

***

"Yeah, well, I know him," Abe Eiko says. "And I really don't want to see him again, capiche?"

The Network is unsure what 'capiche' means. We are also unclear why someone would not wish to see Kamijou Touma again. He is quite heroic and saved our lives by punching the Accelerator. We liked that bit. We think he should have done it more times, and in various areas of the body. Indeed, the Network has come to the general consensus that the main personality flaw that Kamijou Touma possesses is his continued failure to give the Accelerator fatal internal bleeding.

It is a painful way to die. We know that empirically.

"'Please,' Misaka says innocently," I say innocently so that she would not suspect that I already knew him, "'why do you not want this boy who you already know to see you?'"

Abe Eiko purses her lips. "Look, okay, I met him a few times before. First time, he broke my arm and then gave me a concussion. Stupid cheating bullshit hand blocking my knife. So unfair. I wasn't going to kill him! Well, I mean, it wasn't my orders to kill him. Okay, apart from the bit where I was going to take out the witnesses, but it wasn't anything personal. Anyway, it was all his fault for protecting her and getting in the way of a perfectly normal assassination. He could have walked on!"

I do not say anything. Much of the reason for that was that I am trying to stop Misaka-10032 from overloading my input channels with her ceaseless requests. The Network has decided to downgrade Abe Eiko's threat rating somewhat, however. Kamijou Touma's power is to cancel ESPer powers which come into contact with his right hand. The fact that she stabbed him in the hand rather than anywhere else on his body indicates inferior tactical acumen.

She shrugs. "Well, anyway, second time he gave me a black eye." She rubs her chest. "And punched me in the boobs, which really hurt! And… uh, also broke the Dark Matter plate I had under my top because I thought that maybe if I put cloth in the way he couldn't cancel it. And… look, it's embarrassing to talk about it, okay? He kicked my ass several times. And I really don't want to see him, now that they retired me. I've got enough bruises from that guy."

I consider the situation. "'I will distract him,' Misaka says," I say, putting away my F2000-R. This will serve two goals. It will firstly and most importantly mean that Misaka-10032 will stop pestering me-

***

I am also in favour of Misaka-10032 not pestering Misaka-11111. Misaka-10032 wants to add a note to the diary saying that she is not pestering Misaka-11111, but I am refusing to do that because she is pestering Misaka-11111 and also me.

Back to writing.

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-and it will also let me speak to him in person. It also means that he will keep me safe from Abe Eiko in case she thinks I have let down my guard. It is a good plan.

I walk out and approach him. Kamijou Touma looks me up and down.

"Oh, hey, Biri-Biri," he says. "Do you know who these guys are?" There is an explosion somewhere above us. "Oh, damn. This way!" He grabs my wrist with his right hand. It feels quite warm. It is a not-unpleasant sensation.

I find myself being dragged away.
 
Ways that she is worse than the Accelerator include the fact that she has not killed us once. We consider that a positive trait, although we suspect that Academy City authorities disagree and are of the opinion that it is a negative personality trait. We consider that to be a negative personality trait of theirs. We do not know if they know that we hold that opinion of them, but we have not been formally reprimanded for it as of the date that I had Misaka-10901 transcribe this.

So many mentions of positive and negative, and not a single pun?
 
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