- Location
- New England
Echidna's a Cauldron Cape, can't be copied.
A Cat Is Fine Too (Worm CYOA)
- Thread starter CrunchySharpie
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You know, some enterprising individual who has more free time than sense should write up a list of all the capes who cannot be copied, and the author can threadmark it. Who's up for the challenge? It'll stop people from constantly guessing incompatible combinations of powers. 
- Location
- Dodging chaos dragons in Limbo
Lol. An instant "I win!"-button would be to get Bakuda and Mobius to build some interplanetary bombs of extreme destruction, then fire said bombs using Flechette and Quarrel to make sure it hits Scion's real body. Yeah... CYOA's are crazy OP with a good memory/researcher.
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
Would probably be worse for him if it didn't- SOP for [PROTOTYPE] would normally be (Create device, has a chance of exploding); it's just that, since it Hates Leet, it makes it so that the percentage chance for failure increases dramatically after model 1. At least with Model 1 being almost guaranteed to be perfect, he has something to grab blueprints from via >>Dragon.
Good thing that Schrodinger has horrible memory, then, isn't it. Also, who the heck is Mobius? For that matter, who's Quarrel?
Panacea's broken enough without Bonesaw- all Bonesaw would give would be new ideas, and Panacea's default gives enough data to its user to fake it anyways, normally. Really, Panacea is the biotinker version of Sky High's Technopath power- nearly-instinctive knowledge on how some of this stuff should work, and the ability to manipulate it with her mind.
Hero's Cauldron, much like Echidna(theorized to be Eden's version of whichever shard let's Zion flip people off with wavelength cancellation).
tkioz
The Rabid Bunyip
- Location
- Australia
I dunno. The story is good, the writing is good, the characters are somewhat interesting if a little hyper. I just don't how you'll go balancing the power without turning the entire thing into a curb-stomp.
Personally I'd have put the power-switch on a cool down, either he can chose any power but he is stuck with it in that 'slot' for 6/12/24hrs, or he can switch powers freely but it takes 10-15mins to make the switch where he must stand still.
Dunno, just my two cents.
Personally I'd have put the power-switch on a cool down, either he can chose any power but he is stuck with it in that 'slot' for 6/12/24hrs, or he can switch powers freely but it takes 10-15mins to make the switch where he must stand still.
Dunno, just my two cents.
- Location
- San Francisco
Butcher. Pretty sure her power was "you hit what you aim at"
- Location
- New England
Well, one of them.
Sonifri
Is this the face of a villain?
- Location
- Texas
But that's exactly what a tinker power is. New ideas and the knowledge to make them happen. Panacea's power is the ultimate tool, Bonesaw's power is what to do with that tool.
Combining the two could do something like a venom symbiote comprised entirely of organic nanobots which can then be programmed. Switch to Richter + Bonesaw for the programming to make it safe and you basically have Tony Stark's Extremis armor. That's not something Panacea is going to pull out of her hat any time soon.
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CrunchySharpie
Professional Harem Consultant
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You know, some enterprising individual who has more free time than sense should write up a list of all the capes who cannot be copied, and the author can threadmark it. Who's up for the challenge? It'll stop people from constantly guessing incompatible combinations of powers.
I could probably do that, though it would only be used as a reference sheet. Keep in mind, me in story isn't going to have that sheet as a resource. I have an okay memory but specifics can get fuzzy, that's one of the main downsides to my character aside from the malus, because that character is me.
Let me put it this way, if I didn't carry a spare set of car keys with me at all times I'd have probably locked myself out of my car at least a half a dozen times last year or more. I've put biscuits in the oven then forgot them all day, only realizing something was wrong when smoke started coming up the stairs and the wailing banshee howl of like 3 smoke alarms told me "shits on fire yo." I can get up to get something and forget about what I wanted to get half way to going to get it. I am forgetful, and if I don't remember it while I'm writing I'm sure as heck not going to remember it when an Endbringer is breathing down my neck.
Which is why I have enlisted the resident in-universe power gamer to assist me in my endeavors rather than trying to work this shit out on my own. Taylor will be able to help somewhat but it's still going to be a learning experience.
Power balancing is based more on the character than the powers themselves. I've limited myself fairly well by following as much to the letter and the spirit of the CYOA choices, while cutting out any second triggers and nyxing any power granting capes that just straight up give powers. Then there's my character who suffers from a Malus that hampers him wherever he goes, doesn't have a very good memory for keeping up with all the power combo's in stressful situations and the in-universe reason for my insertion into the story; to entertain an omnipotent being. Entertain generally means I have to do things that would run counter to min-maxing (cuz min-maxing is generally boring) And do things which can sometimes seem nonsensical. My goal to hug an Endbringer is one of these things that I figure would entertain ROB and make him not fuck with me as bad.
A man can dream.
Then there's my morality in play too.
Fantasy (erotic or otherwise) would have me be an evil murderhobo with a kill count that would make Game of Thrones jealous, with little real compunction against using Heartbreaker, Valfor etc. to skip the middle man of earning companions, making friends etc. If I was an absolute monster then I could, reasonably, take care of every problem on Earth within a month. Since I'm not an absolute monster and can at times be a bumbling idiot who panics-oh god why is this happening, run! Instead of tackling things head on logically, that is where I will try to find my balance. I'm telling a story here, not playing a game. And in-universe me is finding that "oh crap, this is real, better not accidentally turn someone into chunky salsa because I don't know how to power."
Individual parts of the butcher collective I can copy as long as they are natural triggers. The butcher power itself I cannot.
Have to figure that combo out in story. Knowing it here doesn't help in-story me. Everything in-story me is using on the fly are combinations I've thought of before getting inserted. To figure out other combinations I must experiment, and then afterword figure out where I should devote most of my time to.
- Location
- Philippines
Would Sqealer+Kid Win = power ranger Zord
- Location
- Dodging chaos dragons in Limbo
Quarrel is Butcher XIV, "Her attacks bend space to create perfect accuracy, never missing a target within range. Among her weapons is a massive bow, requiring her inherited super-strength to draw."
And I am terribly sorry, Mobius is an OC ToyBox tinker specialising in rapid transportation(i.e. intercontinental transport (New England to British Columbia in 15 seconds) via ballistic missile) from Hope Through Overwhelming Firepower. Was written well enough that I never bothered to check up whether or not she was canon.
so laser pointers, scratching ears, stroking tail
what about catnip.
I foresee laser pointers and catnip grenades becoming really popular with the villains.
Also the wards, Taylor, Danny, Militia and Vista
Oh god definitely Mouse Protector and Assault are going to start packing
what about catnip.
I foresee laser pointers and catnip grenades becoming really popular with the villains.
Also the wards, Taylor, Danny, Militia and Vista
Oh god definitely Mouse Protector and Assault are going to start packing
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- Location
- Maine
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Theirs
I would like to notes that some otherwise normal humans can get high off of catnip. It seems to be some sort of genetic sensitivity. Most people will be a little relaxed by it, which is why it's in some relaxation teas, but...
What I'm saying is, I know a guy who smokes catnip. And it's not psychosomatic.
What I'm saying is, I know a guy who smokes catnip. And it's not psychosomatic.
I did not know that. That meets my new piece of trivial knowledge for the day requirement
CrunchySharpie
Professional Harem Consultant
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- Sharpie Factory
He wouldn't happened to be named Tom would he?
I knew I'd find a use for this gif one of these days.
Angurvddel
I am Large. I contain Multitudes
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A Cat Boy and A bug themed Girl?
Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir
Just sayin.
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Random note, the powersharing aside from all the other bits gets around the self-manton limits of some of the powers nicely. Especially Panacea's. Panacea + Bonesaw is probably the best and fastest current way to get at least a minor constantly on brute rating that doesn't take up a powerslot. Not dying to a sniper bullet when channeling two squishies is always a plus.
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Honestly though, I think the best Tinker Combo I can think up is actually not two tinkers, but Citrine + various Tinkers. Citirine literally alters physics to an extent. Think of the things that a Tinker would be able to build within those fields that would otherwise be normally impossible.
A Cat Boy and A bug themed Girl?
Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir
Just sayin.
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Random note, the powersharing aside from all the other bits gets around the self-manton limits of some of the powers nicely. Especially Panacea's. Panacea + Bonesaw is probably the best and fastest current way to get at least a minor constantly on brute rating that doesn't take up a powerslot. Not dying to a sniper bullet when channeling two squishies is always a plus.
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Honestly though, I think the best Tinker Combo I can think up is actually not two tinkers, but Citrine + various Tinkers. Citirine literally alters physics to an extent. Think of the things that a Tinker would be able to build within those fields that would otherwise be normally impossible.
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- Location
- Home
Given that the author talked about no power-gathering capes, I will guess he won't put himself under surgery, and even then, Browbeat's power of self biokinetic would be much easier.
globalwarmth
ruining the weather.
- Location
- Polar ice caps
I've always wondered what were browbeat's bioK limits and duration. can he modify organelles and individual cells, or just change bone structure bulk up? do the changes persist or do they deflate like the hulk and lung?
for upgrades I would just do lots of internal damage while being crawler (after bonesawing pain away) . toxins, pathogens, injecting acid directly to the bones, keeping it deep beneath the skin so the mutations are not visible outside.
but its all irrelevant when Tay can slot panacea and so they can do each other's mods now.
Vaalintine
Wild Wondorous Wolfalope
You should totally tell the next E88 cape you see that the reason you fought Hookwolf & oppose them on principle is that Hookwolf decided to attack someone, despite being obviously white & german, the moment he found they were a case 53.
Angurvddel
I am Large. I contain Multitudes
There's the issue of if Browbeat's changes will stick around if you swap out the power, and I'd say that it probably doesn't. Honesty, for the most part I'm getting the sense that the the Author is just trying to stay within particular levels of rules lawyering. Using power gathering capes is something along the lines of 'wishing for more wishes' and basically negates a bunch of limits placed on his major power. Getting a minor brute rating from some tinkertech surgical modifications isn't really in the same ballpark. I mean, if you're going to run with that, it's pretty much the same as saying 'no tinkertech. Period'.
But honestly, the SI's power gets around the biggest blocker of outrageous powerups. That being personalities. The one thing that was almost always universal in Worm was that if two characters had fantastically amazing powers that would synergize like nobody's business was that they'd almost invariably hate each other.
(I mean seriously, If they wanted to SI and Taylor can go full on Zerg army within a few weeks)
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- Location
- New England
Well, here's something for a combo
Null and Two of the Yangban. Null distributes powers amongst multiple people, weakening them in the process, while Two enhances powers, making them closer to full strength again. Not 100% on if Two increases the distributed powers or supercharges Null's power, but it's something to consider. I actually have a CYOA fanfic in the works based on this combo.
Null and Two of the Yangban. Null distributes powers amongst multiple people, weakening them in the process, while Two enhances powers, making them closer to full strength again. Not 100% on if Two increases the distributed powers or supercharges Null's power, but it's something to consider. I actually have a CYOA fanfic in the works based on this combo.
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
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How have none of us mentioned slotting in Vista with literally any striker power?
>>Vista, >>Clockblocker: Quickly tap various spots on the nearest endbringer from a half a mile away.
>>Vista, >>Rune: Tap your opponent's costume, fling them all over the place.
>>Vista, >>Panacea: If your foe is organic and has any exposed skin, you win. Alternately, heal anyone in your line of sight.
How have none of us mentioned slotting in Vista with literally any striker power?
>>Vista, >>Clockblocker: Quickly tap various spots on the nearest endbringer from a half a mile away.
>>Vista, >>Rune: Tap your opponent's costume, fling them all over the place.
>>Vista, >>Panacea: If your foe is organic and has any exposed skin, you win. Alternately, heal anyone in your line of sight.
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- Sufficient Velocity
You know, some enterprising individual who has more free time than sense should write up a list of all the capes who cannot be copied, and the author can threadmark it. Who's up for the challenge? It'll stop people from constantly guessing incompatible combinations of powers.
- Alexandria
- Ballistic
- Battery
- Brickhaus
- Canary
- Citrine
- Clairvoyant, The
- Codex
- Coil
- Custodian, The
- Doormaker
- Echidna
- Egesa
- Eidolon
- Epoch
- Garrotte
- Genesis
- Gentle Giant
- Gray Boy
- Gregor the Snail
- Gully
- Gwerrus
- Hero
- Hunch
- Jacklight
- Legend
- Ligeia
- Lizardtail
- Magnaat
- Mantellum
- Matryoshka
- Munstro
- Newter
- Nix
- Nyx
- Oliver
- Othello
- Perdition
- Polish
- Pretender
- Sanguine
- Satyrical
- Scarab
- Shamrock
- Shatterbird
- Siberian, The
- Slug, The
- Subject 3016 (Cauldron designation, not a name).
- Sundancer
- Sybil
- Trainwreck
- Trickster
- Triumph
- Weld
- Acidbath
- Butcher, The
EDIT: I did. I forgot Hunch.
EDIT2: And Polish.
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CrunchySharpie
Professional Harem Consultant
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Tinkertech surgery on the level of Bonesaw is possible to give Brute, Mover and Blaster ratings (Subdermal armor, enhanced muscles/bio zipline, Biozipline/biorifle embedded in arm etc.) Thats not really "power gathering." And augmenting the body through surgery isn't really "Power granting." When I think power granting I think Othala, able to give out things that just plain break physics. Grafting shit to someones body is something a bit more down to earth.
Heck full cyberization ala Ghost in the Shell is a possibility and we all know what that can do.
Browbeats changes are permanent, however from what I've gathered they mainly focus on changing muscle mass rather than any kind of super special self Panacea. Else Browbeat would be really, really ridiculously powerful and would have probably gone Alex Mercer levels of powerful if he had such a control over his self.
So I could build muscle with the power, but without the tactile telekinesis I'll probably suffer from comic book fridge logic from things I grab, like say a cars bumper getting ripped off instead of the car coming along for the ride. And its not like I actually "Need." the muscles, especially when the muscle mass isn't nearly as efficient as a similar amount of tinkertech. It would be a good combination with someone else though.
I am.
It does.
They can.
We shall see which way the coin falls in the next chapter.
And it's something I've thought about several times before getting SI'd so you'll likely see at least one of these combo's in combat.
Danke. Though I was unaware of The Siberian and and Shatterbird being cauldron capes.
Looks like SI me is going to be sorely disappointed, The Siberian was one he wanted to use in emergencies.
Aegis is just what they called the vial, Aegis the cape is a different thing altogether.