40k Cult Quest
- Thread starter Dragonofelder
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- Sci-Fi
Emperor Warrior - Strength of Man - Khorne
Emperor Scholar - Human Lore - Tzeentch
Emperor Father - human feelings - Nurgle
Emperor Ascetic - human spirit - Slaanesh
The God Emperor - is a particle of everyone's divinity.
(c) Cult of the Emperor-in-five-persons
Why in five faces? To confuse the Inquisition.
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It's only a cover we don't actually worship the emperor it's just to give the group some plausible deniability and help prospective members be eased into the cult without them being scared away early.
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Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
Yea saying we worship 5 emps is a lot less door kick in causing than saying we worship the four as one 
- Pronouns
- Hr
Oh no I get that because that's a common disguise for chaos cult I just mean earlier conversations about people want to go to the "nice" aspects of the Chaos gods and power to them I just want to more or less be a stereotypical ish cult
Maybe the fifth Emperor can be a representation of Chaos Undivided?
The fifth face is the Emperor as all things the omnipresent beyond human all powerful and all knowing a being utterly incomprehensible and all powerful. Which can only be perceived through these 4 lesser representations.
The fifth face is the Emperor as all things the omnipresent beyond human all powerful and all knowing a being utterly incomprehensible and all powerful. Which can only be perceived through these 4 lesser representations.
Oh ok thanks for clarifying.
Everyone wants to be the dictator so we either have an immortal dictator that nobody on the planet can challenge or a system that can handle people getting replaced without getting destroyed.
Now how can we make sure nobody turns against the system, by giving them a stake in it. So a council with some amount of power that's able to represent the five cults (undivided counts as it's own cult).
Then a free market so lesser Chaos people are distracted with that rather then messing up the main system. Then as a bow on top a healthy understanding of the fact we are bugs to the imperium and we need to have a semblance of unity to survive
Anyways that's why I think a democracy is the most stable government for chaos
Are you aware that you described a typical oligarchy, where 5 people representing the largest "companies" solve all problems among themselves?
We will not succeed in a free market, it is trite because of cutting us off from the Imperial logistics. Without agrarian worlds, our resources must be distributed as carefully as possible to avoid starvation. The free market copes with hunger "in no way" at best.
Well, this is concerning. People I trust to distribute resources and people that worship the Chaos gods don't overlap much
Well, this certainly looks like a promising quest. I hope we get to play our little chaos cult as an actual chaos cult.
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
Okay listen if you don't want a nice cult then that's fine. That's what what votings for. But please don't pretend like we aren't taking the quest seriously. A nicer cult is still a cult.
Aye, being better then the imperium is a worthy goal
- Location
- Pilipinas
I'm watching this thread and its starting to lose its appeal when voters try to make a chaos cult more "efficient" and "humane". I want my human skinsuit and virgins' blood showers dammit!
May I interest you in corn. We can be nice to our people but people outside the cult, they don't really matter to us do they. Besides who cares what happens in the underhive.
Regardless of weather we try and be humane we are going to need bodies from somewhere. Anyways depending on how the voting system works we might end up playing several cults that work with each other
- Location
- Pilipinas
This reminds me, there are canon chaos-ruled planets that aren't total hellholes and have fully-functioning governments ala pirate republics as can be seen in the example planets in the Screaming Vortex from the Black Crusade rpg and Rogue Trader rpg, though mind these planets were chaos-worshipping or aligned to begin with and were not Imperial planets except for the ones ruled by the Alpha Legionnaires who see these planets as training grounds for their agents and its functions like an ordinary imperial world but its completely cutthroat and only the most cunning and vicious deserves to rule.
I want to play like that acknowledge that our gods are evil and do not deny their nature and exploit their gifts as much as they exploit us. We are damned either way so why not enjoy the ride? Besides, we may attract the patronage one of the blessed Legions which is a real win.
I'm down for using the gods as tools to further our goals
That's true, there is that one planet that manages to make everyone happy by just hooking up the entire population to the minds of the ruling nobility and then having the nobility party as hard as possible so that the rest of the population gets to share in the hedonism.
I was not suggesting that people aren't taking the quest seriously, just expressing my hopes for the game.
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
Yea exactly. That's also a great option. Nicer cult doesn't mean actually good cult, because that's probably entirely impossible anyway.
I'd just assumed that was the default state. Either that or hyper religious zealotry.
Cult Creation Part 2
- Location
- A Pit Of My Own Making
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Administration World
- Upper Hive
- Chaos Undivided
Those gathered are a diverse group - clerks, scribes, porters, maintenance workers and more. In a forgotten hall stacked with long archived weather reports they furtively discuss their beliefs, their understanding of the great truth they have only glimpsed. Slowly, the threads combine, until three groups emerge. A debate begins, until the final form of this new, or perhaps old, belief comes to be.
The Cult worships Chaos Undivided - but what aspect of it?
[ ] [Aspect] Primordial Truth
Peel back the layers of reality, ignore the lies of the weak minded, and you shall see the truth of the universe. All shall come to accept it, or perish in its name.
You accept the supremacy of Chaos, seeking to spread this holy knowledge to others.
- Focus on recruitment and methods of spreading chaotic influence
- Careful not to spread the net too far too fast
From the warp comes all life, and so it shall return. The end of all is inevitable; we can only accept it, and hasten the fall.
You shall try to speed up the inevitable fall of reality, perhaps even bringing it about.
- Destruction & death shall be your tools
- Remember; you can be patient. The gods have eternity to win their prize.
All can be divided into four; war, change, death & passion. Separately they squabble and fight, but when acting together they command all.
You shall call upon the Dark Gods equally, working to their united goals.
- More access to boons, gifts, and other good things.
- Like dealing with jealous cats. Cats that can eat you.
The discussion finished, a hush falls over the gathered crowd. A question has become relevant; who shall lead them? What charismatic demagogue shall command them? What wrathful priest shall guide them? Some cannot even conceive of taking such a position, while others have no desire to rule; they are content to act as followers, or to plot in the shadows. Finally, almost simultaneously, four contenders step forwards and plead their case.
Who shall lead the cult?
[ ] [Leader] Valsen Stockhouse, the Scheming Clerk
- Has connections inside the lower levels of the Administratum (starting infiltration of the local Administratum & easier time growing it)
- As a Junior Curator, she has led many expeditions into the towering file storage (+5 to Historical Research)
- Is not, perhaps, a true believer; she primarily seeks to improve her own standing (-5 to Piety or esoteric actions)
- Could talk a rock into splitting. (+10 to all Recruitment rolls)
- When his shop closed, it was no fault of his own. (Less upkeep on businesses, less likely to fail without outside interference)
- Does not know when to shut up. (-5 Stealth when conducting Recruitment)
- Is an officer of the Clippers, local law enforcement. (starting infiltration of the Clippers & easier time growing it)
- Has many tricks and skills used to hide his "activities". (+5 to small-scale Stealth actions)
- Lets loose the dogs, and never calls them back. (-5 to Military actions including commanding forces)
- Made his career smoothing the passage of "questionable" people & items. (+10 to non-violent Stealth actions)
- Has made plenty of friends all over. (+5 to all Diplomacy actions with local-based groups)
- Firmly believes you can't improve on the best; him. (-5 to Learning actions to improve processes)
Once this is done, and the losers slink away in defeat, the new master of the cult remains in the center of the room, all eyes upon them. They begin to describe their vision; what the cult shall aim to do, how it shall do it. And the most important piece of all; the name by which the faithful will know themselves.
[ ] [Goal&Name]
Voting shall begin in a short while.
This is a bit later then I wanted it to be, but that's fine. I'm scheduling the vote this time, and giving you more time to think about it. If you have questions, feel free to ask!
To explain the way to vote, a post would look like;
(The first two are jokes, and not actual options. No, not even if you ask nicely)
Regarding the leader of the cult;
- The leader is not necessarily your character, they are just a figurehead
- More details about them will be revealed if they are chosen, but they are mostly unimportant.
- The Cult leader may, and in fact likely to, change at some point
- The unchosen characters can be considered dead/non-existent going forward.
This is technically the last part of cult creation, but there are two more posts before we really start going. One is an option to edit Kelt more to your liking, and second is... a gift.
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Actually, I have a possible cult idea if we want to take things in a "nicer" direction. What if our leaders are people who somehow got their hands on stories of the old Aeldari civilization and now seek to elevate humanity to that level, but thanks to chaos trickery think that the eldar achieved that level of power with the help of chaos. That gives them a good in-character reason to maintain a fairly functional society while still giving us plenty of opportunity to chaos it up as we pursue power and knowledge and such.
- Location
- Pilipinas
@Dragonofelder can my character "kill" one of the loser candidate since he/she will be considered dead, loot his stuff, and offer their soul to the dark gods?
[X] [Aspect] Primordial Truth
[X] [Leader] Dreyfus Kindly, the Murderous Officer
[X] [Goal&Name] Dethrone the false god, liberate Kelt and return the four to their rightful place/the White Hand Clique
The idea is to have the cult be a "secret revolutionary society" built around driving out the Emperor, liberating Kelt from the imperials and retuning the planet to the "correct" gods. The primordial truth grants us the most leeway, Dreyfus allows us to infiltrate the military and law enforcement the goal of drive out the emperor and restore the four to their proper place gives us a "rebel" feel and the White Hand Clique is chosen because the hand represents the beliefs (the four gods and chaos undivided) the colour white is neutral and clique implies a tightly knit group.
[X] [Leader] Dreyfus Kindly, the Murderous Officer
[X] [Goal&Name] Dethrone the false god, liberate Kelt and return the four to their rightful place/the White Hand Clique
The idea is to have the cult be a "secret revolutionary society" built around driving out the Emperor, liberating Kelt from the imperials and retuning the planet to the "correct" gods. The primordial truth grants us the most leeway, Dreyfus allows us to infiltrate the military and law enforcement the goal of drive out the emperor and restore the four to their proper place gives us a "rebel" feel and the White Hand Clique is chosen because the hand represents the beliefs (the four gods and chaos undivided) the colour white is neutral and clique implies a tightly knit group.
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[] [Aspect] Primordial Truth
To be honest, balancing between 4 gods will look like a tightrope dance over the abyss and we are still juggling bombs.
Therefore, the "neutral" option
(Although I would be interested in helping create the 5th god. Lorgar, according to some theories, is exactly what he is doing).
[] [Leader] Dreyfus Kindly, the Murderous Officer
He has no cons to stealth and will help us recruit both officers and criminals. lol
[] [Goal&Name]
Help embody the 5 Gods of Chaos. Glow of Purification (I don't like the name)
To be honest, balancing between 4 gods will look like a tightrope dance over the abyss and we are still juggling bombs.
Therefore, the "neutral" option
(Although I would be interested in helping create the 5th god. Lorgar, according to some theories, is exactly what he is doing).
[] [Leader] Dreyfus Kindly, the Murderous Officer
He has no cons to stealth and will help us recruit both officers and criminals. lol
[] [Goal&Name]
Help embody the 5 Gods of Chaos. Glow of Purification (I don't like the name)
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- Location
- A Pit Of My Own Making
- Pronouns
- He/Him
You don't in any way "have" a "character". You are the guiding will of the cult, split between it's members.
I mean you could have tried to convince others to have the losers killed, buuut for simplicity's sake I'm removing them from play entirely. Maybe keep those plans for later though
Voting will start in a little over 2 hours! Not sure these will count once it begins, so repost your votes then.