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هذه النهاية [Rehosted Giant Robot Quest]

I assume the votes are on top of the "already planned out stuff" that the instructors had already scheduled for you (and written in the snip)?

One month. Only 3 actions. Man, that really IS a filled schedule.

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[] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
- []Write in: Sims of Giant Robot Weapons Training. You mostly shoot things, but usually at robot size, so you should practice at the range Sims.
(Please replace with the standard "Weapons Training" vote if that version of training already fulfills the Giant Robot version of Weapons Training)


[] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.

(And wouldn't it be great if "Jiggly Puff" continues to own you in games, but you get to improve over him in real life? :D )


[] Hangout! You want to spend more time on your social life before you start fighting life or death battles (Each time you pick this you can Hang Out with another person during the socialization stage)
- [] Dad and the Siblings. (Yaaaaay Skype)
- - - [] Ask Dad in private: Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?
(You're worried about your siblings, and how the public perceive them. And also, two weeks isn't really enough time to break off, time to ask how the family's coping.... so, Skype call, first thing!!)
(Also, see "Giant Video Screen Family Meet" below)


Socialization
[] Kim Hyun-Soon
- Dude, she's our first successful partner. And her shut in behavior can't be healthy.
[] Dick Dastardy
- Attempts at friendly rivalry might pay off in the long run.


Giant Video Screen Family Meet:
- []Write in: I'm piloting Giant Robots!! It's AWESOME!! And incidentally, I'm all right. Thanks for asking. But it's AWESOME!! I'm doing good here!! Everyone's great!! (basically, reassurance, friendly banter, and more reassurance)
- [] Additional Write in: See if you can use the earlier call home, get dad to gather Sam and Vladimir in the same room?
(schedules may conflict, but hey, trying to get cake and eat it too is a time honored tradition. Plus if they missed it, it's the thought that counts.)

(Edit: I picked this part wrongly I guess. Crossed out... and thus my vote has one additional unused action and one unused socialization. May edit this eventually.)

Deployment:
[] Kim Hyun-Soon
- because hey, you've worked well before, you're sure to work well again.
[] Tang Ying
- because... you donno, reasons? And solidarity of pilots? But also because reasons... but mainly a show of trust.
(And please please please please don't shoot a missile at you? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? Ah fuck, now he's remembering that incident again. Way to go, you...)


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Edit: Post is reloading, Stunting in progress. Please hold...
Belay that... the idea existing in thoughts does not seem as awesome when written down :(
Edit #2:Major edits done on socialization and Mid-month video chat part of this post.
edit #3: vote above removed
 
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Focus:
Pick Three (You can pick an option more than once):
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Weapon Training. You mostly shoot things, so you should practice at the range.
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.

Practice, practice, practice. It's best to start with the basics. No CQC yet because we're a basic soldier type it seems.

Socialization:
Pick Two:
[X] Dirk Manderly
[X] Raj Rai
Your father's renting a massive screen for a big Videochat back home midway through the month. Anything in specific you want to talk about?
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?

No idea what we're to talk to our families about besides the default option.
Socializing with Dirk can lead to piloting tips and possibly a rivalry if we get good enough.
As for choosing Raj, I figure our character would still be somewhat worried about him despite Umar's reassurances.

Your first actual deployment is two days before your family visits! It's only a training run, though. You're basically going to be walking around and practicing actual piloting instead of sim piloting for a few hours. Who are you deploying with! (Pick Two)
[X] Khadijah Khan
[X] Kim Hyun-Soon

Because our character is a masochist who likes getting talked down to by strong women. :eyeroll:
 
Focus:
[X] Sparring!
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.

Socialization:
Pick Two:
[X] Tang Ying
[X] Kim Hyun-Soon

Your father's renting a massive screen for a big Videochat back home midway through the month. Anything in specific you want to talk about?
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?

Your first actual deployment is two days before your family visits! It's only a training run, though. You're basically going to be walking around and practicing actual piloting instead of sim piloting for a few hours. Who are you deploying with! (Pick Two)
[X] Kim Hyun-Soon
[X] Amina Usman

Edit:
[X] Nyx's stunt
and sparing added
 
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Schedule:
[X] Nyxistence.
[X] Mardukth vs. Shantideva. No-one in command. 2001.

We're trying to be somewhat normal right? I'm hoping so.
 
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I hate to metagame, but these options look surprisingly like the same options for down time in the Adeptus Evangelion game, aside from taking away hobbies.

wkz said:
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
- [X]Write in: Sims of Giant Robot Weapons Training. You mostly shoot things, but usually at robot size, so you should practice at the range Sims.
(Please replace with the standard "Weapons Training" vote if that version of training already fulfills the Giant Robot version of Weapons Training)
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Last I check Havoc was using a modified version of Adeptus Evanelion, so John's BS outside his marida should be the same as when he's piloting it. Plus, MOAR sims is supposed to get us a different benefit. This is probably trying to get two birds with one stone, which I doubt havoc would allow, and besides I have significant doubts he would offer us combat training that is mostly useless. Given he's doing this to get better at fighting in a giant robot, I think that's helps my point. Out of Marida BS and WS should still map to eachother, meaning weapons training should help John shoot better while sparing should help him with melee fighting.

The cradle should help with Hathihul's version of synch ratio, which helps with AT powers making use of Jonny boy's tremendous Ghazali score and soul powers. Given that's what our Marida was built for, how it's one of the few things that make us stand out compared to the other pilots, how it's been repeatedly told to us how hard it is to handle our type of marida, and how useful our siege field powers (or bypassing the super high toughness of high type marida's with wrath) if we were practicing for combat in a way other then doing MOAR SIMS! I'd go for this.

I'm not entirely sure what the analogue to MOAR SIMS! should be, but I suspect it's us getting more Marida battle updates along with straight up exp from them to spend on hathihul's version of class skills, like new soul powers, stat upgrades, Marida upgrades, ect. Don't take that as anything more then a educated though. Education is obviously going to help with our Int score, whereas hanging out should provide a bonus to Johnathan's fellowship score, which is his social stat. Given I'm pretty sure we've used that more then any other skill in the game so far, and the mess of psychological problems our teammates I wouldn't discount the utility of this option. Of course, there's also the added benefit of Johnathan growing close to our favorite characters.

I don't really have a full vote in mind at the moment, so I'll probably wait till I finish writing a stunt or others do to cast it.
 
... In my defense, I have NO idea about everything you just said. I just came across this quest today, and the above was my first ever vote/post in this thead.

I'll slink away now. ...
 
wkz said:
... In my defense, I have NO idea about everything you just said. I just came across this quest today, and the above was my first ever vote/post in this thead.

I'll slink away now. ...
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Uh, sorry? I didn't mean to come off as berating you, and to be entirely fair, all of my argument hinge on this being similar to the same system in Adeptus Evangelion that Hathihul is partly based on, which could very well be wrong.

I was just trying to type out my best educated guesses, and that part of your post seemed like a good jumping off point. I hope I didn't turn you away from the quest.
 
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Uh, sorry? I didn't mean to come off as berating you, and to be entirely fair, all of my argument hinge on this being similar to the same system in Adeptus Evangelion that Hathihul is partly based on, which could very well be wrong.

I was just trying to type out my best educated guesses, and that part of your post seemed like a good jumping off point. I hope I didn't turn you away from the quest.
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No problem dude. Don't think you're incorrect in that post in any way; I AM trying to train/gain two perks into one action after all...

...but more to the point, I don't understand the system involved, so I was thinking: why would infantry training affect skills on a Giant Robot?? Wouldn't you need to train On Said Giant Robot to gain skills in the piloting of said Giant Robot?? And it's very Giant-roboty weapons?

At the most, I figured havoc will give a 1/2 and 1/2 (on robot comparability and on ranged weapons) if it really came down to a points-based upgrading system...
 
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[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Weapon Training. You mostly shoot things, so you should practice at the range.
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.
[X] Raj Rai
[X] Dad and the Siblings. (Yaaaaay Skype)

Honestly, Some time in Weapon training should be required. After we get a certain level of experience with weapons, we just go straight into Sims and Cradle. We add some CQC cause you never know but honestly, we shoot things and we wizard things.

 
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No problem dude. Don't think you're incorrect in that post in any way; I AM trying to train/gain two perks into one action after all...

...but more to the point, I don't understand the system involved, so I was thinking: why would infantry training affect skills on a Giant Robot?? Wouldn't you need to train On Said Giant Robot to gain skills in the piloting of said Giant Robot?? And it's very Giant-roboty weapons?
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Because dark heresy, the system which Adeptus Evangelion is based on, which Hathihul seems to based on, is not really simulationist. Ballistic skill in dark heresy, and warhammer in general, amount to a character's talent with any sort of ranged weapon, and actual skill or profiency with specific types of weapons are handled differently in the system shoulod that be acknowledged. If you want a watsonian rather then a doylist argument, it could be that the SIM! time is valuable for Johnny to only use it as a glorified gun range, and the things they'll be working with him on are more comprehensive then just learning how to shoot. The ability to fire weapons on mecha, and to fire infantry level weapons as a human might not be precisely linked, but there probably is some overlap in being able to aim given the similar body types so it's probably the next best thing to the SIM's.


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No comment on the rest of your post, I'd just like to point out that not every 'spellcaster' uses Vancian casting, and in fact this doesn't seem to be the case for Johnathan. He seems to have a finite pool of points for powers equal to his effective Ghazali score, but they also seem too refill each turn. So he can pretty much spam wrath as much as he wants.

Aleph said:
[X] Hangout! You want to spend more time on your social life before you start fighting life or death battles (Each time you pick this you can Hang Out with another person during the socialization stage)
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.

Socialization
[X] Khadijah Khan
[X] Kim Hyun-Soon
[X] Raj Rai

Big Screen Family Time:
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?

First time in a Giant Robot

[X] Amina Usman
[X] Dirk Manderly

Okay, explanations.

Hangout is obvious; there are about eight conflicting personalities on this team, and if we don't actively hold it together it's going to fall apart, explode, implode or some combination of the above. Khadijah, Kim and Raj seem to be the cases most in need of being reintegrated quickly with the group and given a boost in confidence/friendship/whatever.
Sims seem important, and I suspect tactics and an understanding of how things work will be more useful than better physical capabilities.

Cradle... no-brainer, we have an obscenely high Ghazali Score, we should learn to use it.

Big Screen Family time... yeah.

First Time in a Giant Robot, Dirk and Amina are both excellent pilots with a few personal problems. We can use this opportunity to get in some camaraderie with them, and if (when) something just happens to go horribly wrong while we're out and about, we'll have a solid team deployed to deal with it.
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Anyway, I'd just like to put this here from the last thread. I don't know if Aleph will participate on the quest here on SV, and obviously this doesn't count as her vote, but I feel her arguments from the SB version of the thread still ring true. I'll cast my vote for


[X] Hangout! You want to spend more time on your social life before you start fighting life or death battles (Each time you pick this you can Hang Out with another person during the socialization stage)
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.

Socialization
[X] Khadijah Khan
[X] Kim Hyun-Soon
[X] Raj Rai

Big Screen Family Time:
[x] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?
[x] Ask what's been going on with your friends and family since you've been gone. See how they're doing.
[x] Tell them what it's like training to be a marida pilot.



First time in a Giant Robot
[X] Amina Usman
[X] Dirk Manderly
 
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Plan Dirtnap.


Schedule:
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Education! Can't fall behind on your learning.
Social:
[X] Khadijah Khan
[X] Amina Usman
Conference Call:
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?
Sortie with:
[X] Amina Usman
[X] Khadijah Khan
We're trying to be somewhat normal right? I'm hoping so.
 
Focus
[X] Hangout! You want to spend more time on your social life before you start fighting life or death battles (Each time you pick this you can Hang Out with another person during the socialization stage)
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.

Socialization
[X] Tang Ying
[X] Raj Rai
[X] Dad and the Siblings. (Yaaaaay Skype)
-[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?
-[X] Ask what's been going on with your friends and family since you've been gone. See how they're doing.
-[X] Tell them what it's like training to be a marida pilot.

Deployment
[X] Amina Usman
[X] Raj Rai
 
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Focus:
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Weapon Training. You mostly shoot things, so you should practice at the range.

Social:
[X] Khadijah Khan
[X] Amina Usman

Conference Call:
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?

Sortie with:
[X] Amina Usman
[X] Khadijah Khan
 
Focus:
[X] Hangout! You want to spend more time on your social life before you start fighting life or death battles
[X] Sparring! You need to get more skilled at CQC. Even if a disturbing amount of the melee training is 'Turkish Oil Wrestling'.
- [X] Disturbing? I think you mean gratifying.
[X] Cradle! You're basically a giant robot wizard, so you should practice your wizardry.

Socialization:
[X] Umar Ahmed
[X] Amina Usman
[X] Khadijah Khan

Vidchat:
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?

Deploying with:
[X] Amina Usman
[X] Khadijah Khan

Basically: getting some social time with the people we're going to be deploying with plus Umar, and trying to improve our fightin' skill, both sorcerous and physical.
 
[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Sparring!
[X] Hangout!
- Dirk Manderly
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Socialization:

[X] Kim Hyun-Soon
[X] Dirk Manderly
[X] Tang Ying

Vidchat:
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?
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It's a rough start to your next morning. You're woken up just minutes before your alarm by an admittedly apologetic looking technician. Despite that, you can't help but wish you could somehow use your apparent robot wizardry powers to give him a stubbed toe (or something) as you pull yourself from the covers. You're signed in for a session of training, apparently a symptom of the training schedule that Umar handed you. Still, after yesterday, it's a little hard to argue that you don't need a bit of it. Maybe you didn't fuck up, but you definitely weren't over-performing.

And so, you climb into one of the lobotomized robot shells hung up in the Chamber, glancing through the instruments as the simulator sings to life like a gospel choir. You're tired enough to forget about proper start-up protocol, and the simulator blares the ungodly spawn of a Windows error tone and a novelty foghorn at you for your apparent negligence. A couple false-starts come and go as you work out which switch is flipped when, and the simulation begins in earnest. It's straightforward enough, a Ma'jooj materializes at a preset distance around you, you turn and shoot it. A little window in your peripheral vision grades you on how fast you respond, how long you take to aim, and how accurate you are. A little more complicated with every target downed.

It's a little like the time trial mode of Breakers Dozen, but the comparison makes you a little uneasy the more you think about it. You plug away for a couple hours, turning where your early warning system nudges you and pulling the trigger once your assisted aiming system locks onto a target. Bang. Pause. Bang. Pause. Bang. There is, evidently, no one else here to do it with, and an already dull exercise gains a thoroughly exhausting quality.

Then the simulation starts to phase in 'friendly' Maridas that you are, of course, not supposed to shoot to mix things up a little and you throw off the helmet. You figure that's probably enough simulator hours for today.

You hit a yellow button (helpfully titled 'MISSION CANCEL'), and the running lights around you cool off. The simulation disappears with a frank 'goodbye', and a series of graphs, time averages, percentages, and point grades replace it. You're almost certain if Amira or Dirk were here, they'd be mugging at the sheer mediocrity of your scores, though the curved graph tells you that repetition was at least doing its' job by the tail-end of the exercise.

Maybe.

You sigh, and pull the lever by your seat. The egg cracks open, and you take a blissful moment to breathe the real air. You catch Kim out of the corner of your eye now, apparently in the middle of leaving. Maybe she'd come in a little before you - you weren't exactly lucid enough to check if any of the pods were already occupied, maybe she came in a little late, it didn't really matter. You call out to her, and she pauses to look back.

"...oh," Kim says blankly. "Sorry, didn't know you were here."

Don't say anything about her dad.

"Yeah, uh, just training." You say a bit lamely.

Don't say anything about her dad.

"Same. I'm supposed to get a few more hours in."

Don't say anything about her dad.

"How were you doing?" You finally ask, having finally conjured a question that did not begin with 'what the hell' and end with 'is up with your dad'. "In the sim, I mean." Kim offers you a noncommittal shrug.

"I did alright." She says.

"That's good," you reply. "I think I did alright, too. Mostly."

"Mostly?" She asks.

"Yeah, messed up the start-up sequence." You admit.

"The start-up?" Kim snickers a bit, then catches herself. "Oh, uhm, sorry. It's... kind of tricky sometimes."

"No, no. It was, uh, it was kind of dumb of me."

You break into some small talk from there, though as the helmet fluid begins to dry on your hair, you both more or less agree to part ways before it gets too hard to wash out.

As you stroll to the showers, you hear what is... a decidedly heated conversation. All of it is one-sided. All of it is... well, it's Dirk. He looms over Tang Ying, his eyes narrow as he presumably tears into him. It's admittedly a little hard to figure out what exactly he's saying - he's speaking so fast that his accent is masking most of the actual specifics. It's really not hard to guess what this is about, anyways. You told yourself yesterday that Tang didn't really deserve to get shouted at over it, and you're really not keen on letting Dirk get away with it. You get closer, and step in. "Dirk, just... stop."

He turns to meet you, and his eyes glance to your feet and your eyes, as if he's sizing you up. "I'm just telling him what I think."

"Just lay off." You say, exasperated. "I think the last thing he needs right now is what you think. Give him a break."

"A break." He guffaws. "You really think that he deserves one, after what he tried? That could have been any of us. At any time."

"He definitely doesn't deserve... whatever this is." You shoot back, glaring. You glance at Tang, who's standing there passively, letting his head hang. Dirk tilts his head towards him.

"Would you trust him with your life, with the world?"

You... well, no. You don't think you would, if you had to be totally honest. But every second you stay silent, Tang appears to shrink even more. Given that you can't really bring yourself to lie through your teeth to prove Dirk wrong, you settle instead for a withering glower. "Just... leave, Dirk. Please."

He stares at you for a few moments, and his eyes flick between you and Tang. "Whatever." He turns around, and disappears down the hallway's next corner. Leaving you alone with Tang. A part of you - actually, not an insignificant portion - really doesn't want to be here, and you quietly wrestle with the notion of simply parting ways, but you can't help but feel a bit guilty for Tang. It was obvious that he was doing a fine enough job beating himself up, and he didn't really deserve whatever Dirk told him. Besides, you left your last little talk on a... weird note.

"Yesterday, what I did. I did it in a game. And I saw it in, you know, a show. It..." he pauses. "It worked, then. Then I screwed it up."

It's not a fucking game. It's not a fucking movie. It's not a fucking comic.

That's what you want to say, and you do an admirable job in keeping a lid on that. Still, the sentiment is hard to leash up. "...stuff like that, it usually only works in games or shows."

"But I thought, maybe--" He sighs, apparently scuttling whatever he was about to say. "He was right," Tang declares miserably. "...I think everyone might be, um, better off if... I go home. Before I screw up again."

He... might not be wrong. Like, really. But that's probably not the right thing to say. The right thing is... well.

"...look, uh." That 'uh' lingers on your lips for a few moments too long. "The deployment that's coming up, I'll team with you. Is... that alright?"

Tang's eyes light up. "You... mean it?"

"Yes," your chest tightens up as your second chance disintegrates. "I mean it."

To that, he offers you a thin, grateful smile. "Thanks." Quite a bit less halfhearted than it was yesterday. "You're not going to regret this."

He walks off, pointedly opposite the direction of Dirk, and you let out a breath that you didn't know you were holding.

Did you just make a terrible mistake?

You think you might have just made a terrible mistake.

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Deployment:

- Kim Hyun-Soon
- Tang Ying
 
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[X] MOAR SIMS! You need dem simulation hours.
[X] Sparring!
[X] Hangout!
- Dirk Manderly

Socialization:
[X] Kim Hyun-Soon
[X] Dirk Manderly
[X] Tang Ying

Vidchat:
[X] Amina mentioned pressure on your siblings, that isn't happening, is it?


[X] Nyx's stunt
 
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Just a thought, if you liked Nyx's stunt, you should probably vote for it as well.

Anyways, since this is going to be really long, have an Infodump/Interlude Vote:

Pick One Interlude or One Infodump (May or may not be narrated by yours truly, depending on how bad these allergies are treating me):

Interludes:
[X] Dirk Manderly
[X] Usman Usman
[X] Baibars Ahmed


Infodumps:
[X] Founding of Los Salvadores. Brazil. 2005.
[X] Mardukth vs. Shantideva. No-one in command. 2001.
[X] Scintillating Avenger and Sandstone Sultan vs. Redcap. San Diego. JANNAH in command. 2002.
[X] Ma'Jooj Cults, Emergence and Growth. 2000-Present Day.
 
[X] Nyxistence.

Aaaaaand let's saaaaaaay

[X] Ma'Jooj Cults, Emergence and Growth. 2000-Present Day.
 
[x] Mardukth vs. Shantideva. No-one in command. 2001.

Let's see what happens when Enemy fights Enemy.
 
[X] Nyxistence.

[X] Mardukth vs. Shantideva. No-one in command. 2001.

Goddamit I wanna see this! It's been on the cards for ages!
 
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