Fate/Kaleid Emiya: Oath Under The Snow (Miyuverse Shirou in F/SN Quest)
- Thread starter nicklzh
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- Location
- The Garden
Traitor!
[X] Talk with Medea on your side of the story
[X] Have Medea scry over the Emiya residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case
Killerflood
Corporal Cannonfodder
- Location
- Saṃsāra
[X] Talk with Medea on your side of the story
[X] Write in: Have Medea scry over the Matou Residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case
My thinking is is that even if we were to take care of Zouken, an Origin bullet would be the simplest way. It might even be in character too. Medea scrys the Matou residence, maybe finds out what Zouken is up to, and then Shirou gets furious. Shirou would then plan a way to rescue Sakura which might envolve the origin bullets...
It might be one of the best ways in dealing with Zouken who can body jump. There is, of course, the worms around Sakura's heart. That's an issue...
[X] Write in: Have Medea scry over the Matou Residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case
My thinking is is that even if we were to take care of Zouken, an Origin bullet would be the simplest way. It might even be in character too. Medea scrys the Matou residence, maybe finds out what Zouken is up to, and then Shirou gets furious. Shirou would then plan a way to rescue Sakura which might envolve the origin bullets...
It might be one of the best ways in dealing with Zouken who can body jump. There is, of course, the worms around Sakura's heart. That's an issue...
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nicklzh
Plan? What plan?
- Location
- Malaysia
The heart bit isn't that bad considering Medea's Pain Breaker.
'It returns any and all curses and injuries by means of magecraft to zero. "Pain Breaker" performs automatic repairs not by means of time manipulation, but by calculating the proper figure one originally had. For those that do not know any better, it would just look like the rewinding of time. It can abolish any and all unreasonableness other than "death", but it simply cannot bring back the dead.'
So if you're fine with smashing her heart and fixing her up immediately, yeah, sure.
It's the worms that's almost everywhere in her body, including her blood that's trickier. Granted, if you were creative and took advantage of certain things... (See Fate/Accel Zero's Iskandar method of dealing with Crest Worms) it isn't so hard... just painful.
Kotomine Kirei needed multiple Command Seals to fix most of it, you have a Noble Phantasm at your disposal.
The Origin Bullet wouldn't work that well with Zouken since his consciousness and magic circuits are spread through the Crest Worms.
What would work will require you to force him to fight as an Archmagus, as in the centuries old badass magus that he is and shoot an Origin Bullet right when he's going to use his best spell.
Granted, his modus operandi is to just flood you with worms. So it'll require quite a lot of work.
Edit: On a side note, I'll be changing the picture on Shirou's character sheet since Medea healed him and he hasn't noticed the changes yet.
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- Location
- On a Journey Through The Decade
[ ] Go find Shinji, punch him and kill him (Tremendously stupid right now)
I want to do this so bad, but I know it could very well lead to a bad end.
Of course people care about Sakura. That's why we voted for Medea Lilly; out of all the options we were given, she was our best shot at saving Sakura.
I want to do this so bad, but I know it could very well lead to a bad end.
Some people made a write-in for Medea to scry the Matou household.
Aww, some people do care...
That'll help get Shirou over his, 'try not to think of Sakura when it's still raw' phase... maybe.
Of course people care about Sakura. That's why we voted for Medea Lilly; out of all the options we were given, she was our best shot at saving Sakura.
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nicklzh
Plan? What plan?
- Location
- Malaysia
During this time period, Kirei would have confirmed 5 chosen Master's to Atrum.
The last four are open to butterflies for their summons.
Although Rin and Shirou are very likely to stick with their canon servants unless something is done.
In Canon, Caster found and killed Assassin's regular Master and took his command seals to summon a new Servant. Just leaving that information there...
- Bazett (Clock Tower Affiliation)...haha: Lancer (Best Bro who should really be in the Caster Class instead)
- Einzbern: Berserker (No one knows this yet)
- Atrum himself... technically Shirou now: Caster (Medea)
- Tohsaka: No Servant Summoned Yet
- Matou: No Servant Summoned Yet
- Unknown Master who would have summoned Assassin
- OOC wise, Shirou would be the last Master
The last four are open to butterflies for their summons.
Although Rin and Shirou are very likely to stick with their canon servants unless something is done.
In Canon, Caster found and killed Assassin's regular Master and took his command seals to summon a new Servant. Just leaving that information there...
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[X] Talk with Medea on your side of the story
[X] Have Medea scry over the Emiya residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case…
Best to get that in our hands early, before anyone realises what's going on. It'll be a useful trump card. I'm a little leery of looking at anything regarding the Matou before Shirou stabilises emotionally enough to plan properly.
I do have to note that we are effectively two Servants instead of one, though Medea Lily is probably less useful as a direct combatant compared to Medea Original.
[ ] Go find Shinji, punch him and kill him (Tremendously stupid right now)
A little bit of an odd option - Shirou never knew him in life, and only met him when he was shoved into a doll by the Ainsworth, which clearly affected his personality, though Shirou would have no idea to what extent. He'd probably reflexively want to punch Shinji after him murdering Sakura, but it seems a bit of an odd thing to have as an option when Shirou has no idea what's going on there.
Though I am definitely keeping that option close to hand, so that it will be all the more satisfying when we can vote for it.
Well, that's good news. I really want this Shirou to meet that Shirou and that other Shirou. I actually kind of imagine our Shirou just jumping on top of the Emiya shed and making a comment on Archer trying to kill Shirou.
Huh. Can we still create Divine Constructs by the by? Because Archer apparently can't, so we could use that to our advantage if it ever comes down to it.
[X] Have Medea scry over the Emiya residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case…
Best to get that in our hands early, before anyone realises what's going on. It'll be a useful trump card. I'm a little leery of looking at anything regarding the Matou before Shirou stabilises emotionally enough to plan properly.
I do have to note that we are effectively two Servants instead of one, though Medea Lily is probably less useful as a direct combatant compared to Medea Original.
[ ] Go find Shinji, punch him and kill him (Tremendously stupid right now)
A little bit of an odd option - Shirou never knew him in life, and only met him when he was shoved into a doll by the Ainsworth, which clearly affected his personality, though Shirou would have no idea to what extent. He'd probably reflexively want to punch Shinji after him murdering Sakura, but it seems a bit of an odd thing to have as an option when Shirou has no idea what's going on there.
Though I am definitely keeping that option close to hand, so that it will be all the more satisfying when we can vote for it.
Well, that's good news. I really want this Shirou to meet that Shirou and that other Shirou. I actually kind of imagine our Shirou just jumping on top of the Emiya shed and making a comment on Archer trying to kill Shirou.
Huh. Can we still create Divine Constructs by the by? Because Archer apparently can't, so we could use that to our advantage if it ever comes down to it.
Midnight_Splendor
Singing in the night
[X] Talk with Medea on your side of the story
[X] Have Medea scry over the Emiya residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case…
[X] Have Medea scry over the Emiya residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case…
nicklzh
Plan? What plan?
- Location
- Malaysia
This Shirou doesn't really know that EMIYA intends to kill himself... uh... damn it.
Anyways, yes he can still create Divine Constructs that are strong enough to block other Divine Constructs, but they tend to be hollow on the inside to an extent. Other than that, their capabilities can still be activated with enough prana to a weaker extent compared to the originals. e.g. Sul-Sagana can still fire laser beams.
burningclaw2
The Power of the Tomato!
...Is it wrong that I want the Shirou's to meet and join forces?
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
Possibly to make the story colorful, I highly doubt that.
...When I think about it, there's a good chance that Miyu is with Illya right now. That'll be awkward, even if she doesn't have the same relationship with her.
Or she miraculously ended up with the Edelfelts again, who is participating in the war for reasons.
Or she miraculously ended up with the Edelfelts again, who is participating in the war for reasons.
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
Wouldn't the Illya here be essentially Chloe
NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
- Location
- the Philippines
[X] Talk with Medea on your side of the story
[X] Have Medea scry over the Emiya residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case…
[X] Have Medea scry over the Emiya residence
[X] Emiya Residence, Kiritsugu's origin bullets should still be in the locked case…
meganeshounen
*tips glasses*
- Location
- Far East Asia
Now, since we're right before any of the possible branches, which route should we "guide" Original!Shirou down on?
Fate seems the most straight forward.
UBW ends with Gilgamesh as the final boss, but at least any problems regarding Canon!Medea has been butterflied away.
Heaven's Feel? Oh boy. Sure, it's the route for saving Sakura, but the possible enemies... including Sakura herself.
At any rate, using the Grail would get Angry Manjew a chance to pervert Shirou's wish, no matter how he'd spin it...
Fate seems the most straight forward.
UBW ends with Gilgamesh as the final boss, but at least any problems regarding Canon!Medea has been butterflied away.
Heaven's Feel? Oh boy. Sure, it's the route for saving Sakura, but the possible enemies... including Sakura herself.
At any rate, using the Grail would get Angry Manjew a chance to pervert Shirou's wish, no matter how he'd spin it...
Huh. I was sure that there was a scene right after Saber was summoned and Lancer was repelled where Archer tried to kill Shirou, but no. Saber just nearly kills him and Rin recalls him back to the mansion. Might have gotten confused with the first Heracles fight scene in UBW?
Also, good to know.
I think we should just see how things develop, honestly. Caster is a pretty big influence on the early parts of Fate and UBW, so just removing her from the equation is pretty big. Add in us, and who knows how things could develop.
Rin could probably get us in contact with Zelretech so we can find Miyu again - this is well within his ballpark afterall.
Aburg7
Just another Gundam(WIng) Pilot
- Location
- A land called Honahlee
Type-MOON rules are that people who are similar or alike cannot get along
That, and at this time they're ideally opposed to each other. Miyu!Shirou willingly became the 'villain' and sacrificed both the world and his ideals in order to save Miyu. Fate!Shirou meeting someone like that would really rub him the wrong way, just like how he was irritated at Archer almost subconsciously.
nicklzh
Plan? What plan?
- Location
- Malaysia
Miyu!Shirou would likely wish Fate!Shirou the best, hoping that this Shirou doesn't keep making mistake after mistake and lose everything in the end. Fate!Shirou wouldn't agree with becoming the 'villain' but he would agree with saving Miyu in accordance to the "Save Everyone" principal.
Saber would probably sacrifice Miyu in contrast. Although Fate!Shirou converted to Archer's way of thinking would behave differently and could either go HF or UBW (try anyway, at least you tried thinking) with the decision.
EMIYA would sort of understand where Miyu!Shirou was coming from, but would ultimately be the Seigi No Mikata and give Miyu up if he was in Miyu!Shirou's shoes. But in his capacity as a Counter Guardian he would probably be protecting Miyu instead due to plot reasons. Besides, no one seriously trusts the Ainsworth for the whole 'save the world' thing being altruistic, not Gaia nor Alaya. Curious thing to note: He will never attack Illya in any timeline, even if he could have ended the Grail War easily and the later complications.
In the end, Miyu!Shirou wouldn't hold anything against most other versions of himself since he's "been there" and already made his decision.
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- Location
- Madness realms
How will EMIYA feel about Miyu!Shirou and how he turned away from the EMIYA path?