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Black Kingdom Rising - Anime Villain Quest [CK2 Quest]

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[X] The Soul Crown - The symbol of the Ebon Emperor's rulership over all things that live and die in this world, the crown that grants dominion over the powers of life and death, such is the Soul Crown. The soul essence that binds together the structure of a thousand souls, melted down and forged by the flames of heaven and hell to craft this piece of the Black King's regalia. The Living and the Dead must pay their due to the Black King.

Honestly, this seems easiest (gathering magic "directly from the Magic Core" is likely to raise hell with the mages) and I suspect it'll be one of the most immediately useful - crowns are for ruling.
 
The sword sounds the most straightforward, whereas with a few of these other ones we wouldn't even know where to start.

The Magic Core is a complete unknown

The crown requires soul manipulation on a pretty massive scale

The mantle does the same with life energy

The Everheart requires us to find and hunt down a bunch of heroes, heroes that are likely our friends.

But the sword? All that requires is more of what we've been doing. Helping the Company fight more wraiths, having Yuudai conquer the ninja clans in our name, escalating the war between the MGs and the various villains they have. It's not some grand obvious undertaking, and it's certainly not as morally iffy as some of these other options considering we'd be trying to undermine the worse supernatural factions. Then there's the fact the Sword will help us achieve all the other objectives we can't quite accomplish with subtlety, combined with the weakened and war torn supernatural factions in the city should allow us to quickly gain control if/when we need to enter the limelight.
 
tri2 said:
guys? you might be idiots, for kingdom heart what is more pure hearted than a newborn? go to orphanages and spirit away 7 orphan babies, then for evil we merely need to find 7 cats to sacrifice, boom, done.
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I'm actually not sure babies have souls of pure light. I have a feeling normal people in this setting are born with a soul that is part light and part dark.

[X] The Black Sword

Seems the easiest once we have figured out how to harvest Vehemic Energy. Violence is literally everywhere.
 
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[X] The Ever-Heart - The Kingdom's Heart, that which binds the hearts of all who follow the Ebon Emperor together as one. As long as power flows through the Ever-Heart, none who follow the Black King shall be found wanting in strength, both mind, body, and soul. Seven souls of pure light and seven souls of pure darkness must become one to start the beating of the Black Kingdom's Heart.
 
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I'm actually not sure babies have souls of pure light. I have a feeling normal people in this setting are born with a soul that is part light and part dark.
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even better! make a spell to split them into two halves, pure light, pure dark, now we only need 7 babies. or 14 if you want to add two light halves to make a light whole and two dark halves for a dark whole
 
Guys, Book of Ebon requires us to pull out part of the worlds foundation and Eat it. That is Not subtle, or simple. Likely not gonna be subtle either.

Pick another option please?
 
[X] The Black Sword - The symbol of violence and war. Violence is life's most primal force, an eternal force that will never disappear as long as life exists. Violence for the sake of others. Violence for the sake of one's self. Violence for the sake of Violence. All becomes fuel for the might of the Black Kingdom. The vehemic energy of a city at war with itself would bring forth the sword of the Black King

I'll probably change it to avoid going for the book later on. Because ripping at the roots of reality when we've got little theoretical understanding of magic and only our advisor to fall back on is about as stupid as the whole 'Not!FuManchu' thing was.
 
Darik29 said:
Guys, Book of Ebon requires us to pull out part of the worlds foundation and Eat it. That is Not subtle, or simple. Likely not gonna be subtle either.

Pick another option please?
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... You know, yer right.
[X] The Grand Mantle
We can just farm a lot of people, if not the whole city from survivable amount of Life Energy.
Or get lots of Ebon farms. Still better thank killing half of fairies worldwide or something...
Also I don't want to antagonize Roselyn just yet.
 
Karugus said:
The sword sounds the most straightforward, whereas with a few of these other ones we wouldn't even know where to start.

The Magic Core is a complete unknown

The crown requires soul manipulation on a pretty massive scale

The mantle does the same with life energy

The Everheart requires us to find and hunt down a bunch of heroes, heroes that are likely our friends.

But the sword? All that requires is more of what we've been doing. Helping the Company fight more wraiths, having Yuudai conquer the ninja clans in our name, escalating the war between the MGs and the various villains they have. It's not some grand obvious undertaking, and it's certainly not as morally iffy as some of these other options considering we'd be trying to undermine the worse supernatural factions. Then there's the fact the Sword will help us achieve all the other objectives we can't quite accomplish with subtlety, combined with the weakened and war torn supernatural factions in the city should allow us to quickly gain control if/when we need to enter the limelight.
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I refer you to;
PurposefulZephyr said:
Stand back, everyone! I shall attempt to divine meaning from Words of GOD! *mystic noises and gestures*

We are at least partially wrong in our initial speculations.

We can't just chuck normal office workers to the Soul Crown or Grand Mantle. Higher grade mooks are required.

EDIT: (LITERALLY OPPOSITE) It's quantity of force not number. We may technically not have to kill anyone.

Trying to get mana for the Book of Ebon will mean a major disaster. Will it sabotage other's magic, kill off a part of magical population, or some other shit? Who knows?shibosho, duh
Ever-Heart does not require Hero's life. We don't have to go FIGHT ALL THE BOSSES.
It may mean infants or something, but it certainly won't be that easy.
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There are quotes in Zephyr's original post that those lines are talking about. So Karugus, did that clear up everything for you?

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Darik29 said:
Guys, Book of Ebon requires us to pull out part of the worlds foundation and Eat it. That is Not subtle, or simple. Likely not gonna be subtle either.

Pick another option please?
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What. I... what? How the literal fuck is yanking out magic peoples magic pulling out a part of the world's foundation, and eating it? I sincerely hope you're just tired, because that made like, no sense at all.
 
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Hmm.... In hindsight, there's a chance I might be tempted to 'upscale' my priority to voting for the Black Sword. IF, assumption wise;

A) We can hypothetically set a short term 'base' in an external city, that's even rifer to set up a sort of 'conflict'
B) We stumble upon a warzone, like say? Somewhere in Africa. Call it a 'vacation', while we 'end' a conflict/war with even more conflict/war.

Only trick, is if we go and fan a war in another city, and try and possibly trick the forces of light on "Hey, IF this is Black Kingdom (again), there in X"... Which miight tempt Roselyn to take a 'vacation' in turn...

... Hmm... Hindsight, I'm now tempted to write an obviously! Non-canon omake, where Jacob bluffs a surprise, under 'uh, I was taking a vacation'... Then Roselyn following the lead to Jacob's vacation under a 'heroine call' of "The Black Kingdom is back... But in X. Go there, and Save the Light!"

... Which ends with Jacob arriving a bit early, with 'maybe' a tan, inquiring where Roselyn is... Followed by Roselyn arriving back, irate over having missed an entire 'edge lord/black knight' causing a scene/conflict in Africa to be far worse...

And hey, we can always say "... I was in Egypt for a bit", and claim stalkers as a possible reason why we needed an 'X weeks' vacation. But then booking disasters happened? ... :p
 
Is there a reason that Evetta or Jacob couldn't take a trip to the at war parts of Africa or the Middle East to quickly create the black sword or life energy Cloak from soldiers and terrorists. Free acceptable targets
 
shibosho said:
[ ] The Black Sword - The symbol of violence and war. Violence is life's most primal force, an eternal force that will never disappear as long as life exists. Violence for the sake of others. Violence for the sake of one's self. Violence for the sake of Violence. All becomes fuel for the might of the Black Kingdom. The vehemic energy of a city at war with itself would bring forth the sword of the Black King.
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In short, we would have to start a city wide gang war, or sic the individual supernatural factions against each other in a given city, to get the sword. That is to say, we would need to work hard at setting some city, preferably some other city that isn't ours, at war with its own population. NOT something easily achieved, or something to do in our off hours, intrigue adviser now or no.

We'd either go about yanking out some mage's magic in other cities, (slightly longer, but still easiest) or we try for the Mantel by figuring out some way to store Ninja life force and start collecting high end mooks of Yuudai's level or better, till we have enough. Either would take a while. And doing the Mantel now, means that Ando gets an easier time of it being Ninja Jesus. We don't want Ando having an easier time of it; because we can't afford Ando leading well trained "We're the good guys" Ninja against us. We SHOULD wait till Ando wins, then go collecting his more threatening enemies life force, and some other unaffiliated clans for the Mantel, once Ando finishes up his story.
 
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I am very conflicted on all the keys except the mantel and the sword. I still would like what I asked to be cleared up. If we make a key does the place we made it turn into the part of the kingdom it's from.
 
WCSII said:
What. I... what? How the literal fuck is yanking out magic peoples magic pulling out a part of the world's foundation, and eating it? I sincerely hope you're just tired, because that made like, no sense at all.
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I actually agree with him.
Karugus said:
I'll probably change it to avoid going for the book later on. Because ripping at the roots of reality when we've got little theoretical understanding of magic and only our advisor to fall back on is about as stupid as the whole 'Not!FuManchu' thing was.
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Karugus has a point here- we know little to nothing about magic. For all we know it really is a part of foundation of the reality, even if not a big one.
shibosho said:
To tear magic out from the very source is like almost ripping out a number of the roots out of a plant.
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Also if that isn't omnious I don't know what could be. It implies harming a massive living thing.
... Which could make it retaliate. Or make it more fragile than a simple magical battery.
shibosho said:
The vehemic energy of a city at war with itself would bring forth the sword of the Black King.
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Also it's a city not this city. Sure, this city is implied, but is it special in any way? Does it have better violence than other parts of the world?
It could, with all the supernaturals, but is this place really outside the norm for supernatural population? We don't know that.
 
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Really... I go play Left4Dead2 for one and a half hour, only to return and find the thread in high spirits, with all the important points already analysed and more than two new pages.

But to be honest, I doubt that we could completely predict what is needed for each of those five keys. All of them will be really difficult to create and I get the feeling we should just choose which one we feel the most comfortable with. As per the update, those are long-term projects either way.
 
PurposefulZephyr said:
Also if that isn't omnious I don't know what could be. It implies harming a massive living thing.
... Which could make it retaliate. Or make it more fragile than a simple magical battery.
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:facepalm: Plant. A plant. Singular. Also, no implications of fungus or super organisms. If you rip roots off a flower, it's gonna die, a tree might manage to live on, but it's definitely not going to be healthy thereafter. Likewise, did I take the analogy of plant and magic to mean. Ripping magic out of a person, would be like ripping out roots from a singular, solitary, plant. It's not likely to grow back, and the person will be diminished for it, if they're still alive thereafter.
 
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WCSII said:
In short, we would have to start a city wide gang war, or sic the individual supernatural factions against each other in a given city, to get the sword.
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I think yer taking it a bit too literally.

That's how much energy itself is required to do so.

A 'city at war with itself' is simply the example given.

Were Jacob to go to like, an active battleground or some such, I'm decently sure he could grab enough energy from that.

Hell, following Ando around would eventually do it too, assuming Ninjas keep popping up from the woodworks.

Or even Jacob just going around and punching everything that goes bump in the night.

It doesn't matter what kind of violence it is, or for what reason it is preformed. Simply that it is violence.
 
[X] The Soul Crown - The symbol of the Ebon Emperor's rulership over all things that live and die in this world, the crown that grants dominion over the powers of life and death, such is the Soul Crown. The soul essence that binds together the structure of a thousand souls, melted down and forged by the flames of heaven and hell to craft this piece of the Black King's regalia. The Living and the Dead must pay their due to the Black King.
 
Right. Even if it's not going to influence the vote, I'd like a small confirmation.
... *clears throat*
OH GREAT MASTER OF THIS QUEST! I do not wish to bother you (too much) but I have a basic inquiry:
Can we just leave the city in search of vehemic energy?
... Or any energy, for that matter.
 
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[X] The Ever-Heart - The Kingdom's Heart, that which binds the hearts of all who follow the Ebon Emperor together as one. As long as power flows through the Ever-Heart, none who follow the Black King shall be found wanting in strength, both mind, body, and soul. Seven souls of pure light and seven souls of pure darkness must become one to start the beating of the Black Kingdom's Heart.
 
@shibosho, can we get a definitive example of what each item will take to make them so that we can just meta this vote and stop the arguing? Yeah, I know I'm the one arguing, but I also know that I'm the only poster in this thread that hasn't 'shitposted' just because 'lol'. So, right now, I'm kinda feeling like others are either a.) not playing this quest in any seriousness. B.) are ramming for the shinny, despite rather apparent indicators that it's nowhere near as easy as they demand you make it for them to be. And c.) I'm almost certain that we have some people 'shit voting' too. As a means of egging others into damaging the quest's ability to continue.

In this one thing that you've done to make this quest more interesting for you, you've given the quest participants enough rope to sink the quest, and the 4chaners are right here egging the... easily led voters right along in torpedoing it. Unless, that was your intention?
 
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