which was where the Umbral Crescents came in. Grown upon hidden knowledge, the mushrooms were utterly desiccated to remove their own vitality such that when the essence of the drinker intermingled with them during ingestion the only shape the hallucinations could take would be of the future self.

Umbral Crescents are mushrooms. Orks are mushrooms. Given how Cultivators go crazy over Ganoderma (lingzhi), they'd go crazy Ork hunting?

I assume Ork Painboyz & Mekboyz can be substitutes for Umbral Crescents and we can create 2 variants of Dreaming Orchid Elixir (Alchemy & Refining) depending on what we need to study? 4 if we get our hand on Pain or Mek Bosses?
 
Umbral Crescents are mushrooms. Orks are mushrooms. Given how Cultivators go crazy over Ganoderma (lingzhi), they'd go crazy Ork hunting?

I assume Ork Painboyz & Mekboyz can be substitutes for Umbral Crescents and we can create 2 variants of Dreaming Orchid Elixir (Alchemy & Refining) depending on what we need to study? 4 if we get our hand on Pain or Mek Bosses?
I think orks will be completely exotic and mew material to work with, they are aligned with gork and mork, not any of the chaos gods, which seem to be the base of our alchemy.

I suspect great benefit can be found from harvesting orks, but we would probably meed to develop that alchemy line ourselves, and the more useful orks are probably in the bigger waaagh, with the most waaagh energy being focused in the warboss and weirdboys.

Tyranids can likewise probably also serve as high quality spirit beasts, their genetic structure should be top note, especially considering part of our dao is currently heading towards consumption thanks to our heavy use pf iron stomach.

An eldar is probably some of the highest quality Slannash aligned material, especially as slannash will probably bless an alchemy that use them as materials.

Thinking about it, maybe the reason using human blood is problematic is the growing power of the emperor, he is becoming the human god the same way slannash is the eldar god, so human body parts are mostly emperor aligned.
 
Tyranids can likewise probably also serve as high quality spirit beasts, their genetic structure should be top note, especially considering part of our dao is currently heading towards consumption thanks to our heavy use pf iron stomach.
Kroot are safer to handle.

Though Jokaero are hard to obtain a sustainable sample of.
 
Tyranids come with the arguable benefit of being connected to the hive mind, which probably influence stuff heavily, but also makes hem much more dangerous to work with.

Tyranids count as some form of Cordyceps...them and Ork veterans of the Octarius War.

Listen bonding with a legendary item spirit is a time honored tradition for xianxia protags

That's Sword Cultivators. To which the natural end point of "communicating with Sword spirits" & attaining the state of "Man & Sword as One" is becoming a Mutilator.

Obliterators fit the theme of Weapon Refiners whose Natal Treasure are their Refining Furnaces.

All the Death Guard and other Nurgalite forces fall under being Gu Cultivators with themselves as the Gu Jar.

The Noise Marines are Music/Sound Cultivators.

Tzeentch forces are mostly Formation/Array Masters combined with Chess Cultivators who also went insane with Fortune Telling.

Word Bearers are Divinity/Faith/Incense Cultivators.

Imperial Forces fall under Buddhist Cultivators (if the Emperor counts as a giant Śarīra) with overlaps of Literary/Scholarly Cultivators (nurturing Righteous/Haoran qi)

Ork Runtherdz count as Beast Cultivators.
 
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Tyranids count as some form of Cordyceps...them and Ork veterans of the Octarius War.



That's Sword Cultivators. To which the natural end point of "communicating with Sword spirits" & attaining the state of "Man & Sword as One" is becoming a Mutilator.

Obliterators fit the theme of Weapon Refiners whose Natal Treasure are their Refining Furnaces.

All the Death Guard and other Nurgalite forces fall under being Gu Cultivators with themselves as the Gu Jar.

The Noise Marines are Music/Sound Cultivators.

Tzeentch forces are mostly Formation/Array Masters combined with Chess Cultivators who also went insane with Fortune Telling.

Imperial Forces fall under Buddhist Cultivators (if the Emperor counts as a giant Śarīra) with overlaps of Literary/Scholarly Cultivators (nurturing Righteous/Haoran qi)

Ork Runtherdz count as Beast Cultivators.
I don't think any of those count as "proper" cultiavtors, non of them refine their bodies and souls for the purpose of ascension, some of them beg at the scraps of the gods in the hopes of the gods doing it for them, but non just cultivate to reach a higher realm.

Orks and Tyranids might count as some kind of cultivators, both growing progressively more powerful by following their goals, but regular chaos guys are not anymore cultiavtors than a kid using computer is an engineer.
 
I don't think any of those count as "proper" cultiavtors, non of them refine their bodies and souls for the purpose of ascension, some of them beg at the scraps of the gods in the hopes of the gods doing it for them, but non just cultivate to reach a higher realm.
True. But their skills and resources are what can be integrated into the Cultivation systems of every Sect disciple.

Oh yeah. Also Nekrons despite seemingly Death themed as Corpse Cultivators are actually Supreme Trancendent Puppet Cultivators.
 
Thematically I think Imperials fill the role of demonic cultivators in using basically the same system with primarily ethical distinctions while highlighting the moral turpitude of "orthodox" cultivators by being virtually indistinguishable to mortals/civilians. If I wanted to assign Buddhist cultivation to anyone I'd pick craft world Eldar, with their focus on self denial and escaping the default afterlife.

I am curious what sort of spirit beasts there are on Yon's home world and if any of them do deliberate cultivation, and whether Yon will think of intelligent aliens as strange men or strange beasts
 
Thematically I think Imperials fill the role of demonic cultivators in using basically the same system with primarily ethical distinctions while highlighting the moral turpitude of "orthodox" cultivators by being virtually indistinguishable to mortals/civilians. If I wanted to assign Buddhist cultivation to anyone I'd pick craft world Eldar, with their focus on self denial and escaping the default afterlife.
Actually, explicitly, in this world, cultivators who go Deep Unethical on feeding on the qi of other humans go crazy in bad ways, get weird ideas about what the elements are, and then start worshipping the emperor.

Which... would actually make a sort of funny sense if the emperor had aligned himself with "human" qi. If you're using unenlightened humans as your primary qi source, you cram yourself full of too much human qi and you start tuning in to the Emperor's vibes. It's not a good look. Much better to use the four as proper filters on such things. Safer in so many ways.
 
I'm sure knowing that the elders of the Lotus Eye Sect use the four element system is a great comfort to the survivors of the mortals who were burnt by the decent of the celestials but that won't bring anyone back from the dead
 
I'm sure knowing that the elders of the Lotus Eye Sect use the four element system is a great comfort to the survivors of the mortals who were burnt by the decent of the celestials but that won't bring anyone back from the dead
For those who might not be familiar with the history of xianxia, Orthodox or Righteous cultivators being nothing of the sort and Unorthodox or Demonic cultivators occasionally managing to be decent people isn't a twist or deconstruction of an archetype, because it's been there from the origins of the genre.

So, no, the people killed by the Chaos Warband's demonstration nuke, or suffering the aftermath of the same, or of what the Lotus Eye Sect is going to be doing to rebuild and defend its holdings in the aftermath are not and should not be comforted that the Lotus Eye Sect is made up of righteous four-element cultivators. Nobody expects them to be, except perhaps the young masters of the Lotus Eye Sect.

The old monsters of the Lotus Eye Sect know what they are.
 
The old monsters of the Lotus Eye Sect know what they are.

There is a reason everyone uses that term (technically the terminology is more like Senior Elder, but after a certain point they are more interested in their personal cultivation than in the bureaucracy of keeping the sect running and so they become basically "Break Seal in Case of Emergency" units for their sects and clans).
 
I'm sure knowing that the elders of the Lotus Eye Sect use the four element system is a great comfort to the survivors of the mortals who were burnt by the decent of the celestials but that won't bring anyone back from the dead
There are many ways to have horrible things happen to you if you're a mortal in a xianxia world.

If you're near someone who's decided to go with "eat all the mortals" cultivation, though, it's pretty much guaranteed.

The righteous sects are better than the demonic sects because if you go to work for the righteous sects, you might live.

Black-and-Grey morality, and all that.
 
You do occasionally get cultivators who are actually dedicated to, like, real propriety and kindness and generosity. They just usually either get their assess handed to them by someone stronger than them or get fenced off by a sect who wants to exploit their generosity for themselves.
 
You do occasionally get cultivators who are actually dedicated to, like, real propriety and kindness and generosity. They just usually either get their assess handed to them by someone stronger than them or get fenced off by a sect who wants to exploit their generosity for themselves.

Or are the protagonist and thus have Plot to protect them from the consequences of not optimally allocating resources like a sociopathic maximization function.

(sometimes)
 
Transit 5 New
As it turned out, one of the rewards for competence was getting stuck in quarantine for a month.

Okay, that wasn't entirely fair. Yes, Yon lost out on a fair amount of time he had hoped to use for other projects and for networking with others, but he had gained the gratitude and a personal relationship with the two inner circle members he had been assigned to provide medical care for.

Ryu Hashin was a third son of his clan's heir-line scion, which put him fifth in line theoretically and never in line outside of disaster practically. He had the political connections to be a core disciple, but at only sixteen he had still been young enough that being an inner disciple had been more useful for his growth. With the Ego Death of their ancestor, he had volunteered as an inner disciple to help regain his clan's standing. Ryu was part of the Hunting Division, but he was more of an academic in that he enjoyed dissecting and cataloguing beasts, and generally had a scholar's air about him. He had been in the tactics class because he saw combat as something of an intellectual puzzle and wanted to know more about moving soldiers around to achieve his ends.

Tvar Oli was another inner disciple, but where the Ruy were a notable clan with a lineage that included old monsters and even the Ascended, the Tvar were more recent and their most notable members were elders in branch sects. That meant that he was actually a few years older than Yon, and had been essentially voluntold to join as part of the sect's tithe to the Celestials. He was in the Artisan Annex and had done significant work with spirit bronze casting, which meant that he had little carryover expertise, so he was trying desperately to be the best possible officer he could by piling on extra classes.

Both had been talking with Amep since they had been in adjacent cliques at the Sect. Amep's failure to secure a dessicator quickly had actually impaired a project a mutual sponsor had been working on, although fortunately Amep hadn't actually let anyone know who had got in his way and Yon wasn't breathing a word of that. Somewhat fortunately, both inner disciples had seen Amep as being a bit too desperate to pump up his personal rather than clan value and thus were not particularly broken up by his violent end despite past associations. As for Yon personally, they mostly just took the fact that he was their medic while in quarantine as a given, but close proximity and the application of emergency care certainly gave a generally better all around improvement in their attitude.

They also weren't doing nothing while in quarantine. The Celestials would send them study materials, and they all had enchanted slates that used correspondence magic to pass messages back and forth. This meant that they did a lot of tactical and leadership study in between sessions of meditation and physical conditioning. Ryu also took every opportunity to practice wargames with Yon and Tvar, using a wide variety of tools and knickknacks in their out of the way hall to simulate various battles according to the Celestials.

While there were legitimate training purposes, Yon did have to admit that Ryu saw the whole affair as being something of a pure game, and he was a bit of a childish bitch about the whole thing. Tvar had the social standing to push back if Ryu got too annoying, but Yon just kind of had to go along with things. Yon of course couldn't obviously throw a game, and there were a few times where Ryu was clearly experimenting with something and thus decided that a loss was an acceptable outcome. Most of the time though Yon had to try not to be too clever lest the younger noble get upset at him for rising above his station.

There were two times where this didn't work that Ryu at least had the good graces to not throw an absolute fit over, although that was mostly because the cause of the results were somewhat absurd. The first was one time when the random numbers used to simulate the unpredictability and fickleness of fate on the battlefield spat out a sequence of truly ridiculously good numbers for Yon and garbage for Ryu. Had then been actual dice fists probably would have been thrown, but they had all assumed that they could all manipulate dice throws and had asked for something more secure. While the numbers stabilized shortly after, that initial spate put Ryu in a bad spot where recovery would have required Yon to blatantly throw the game.

The second incident was subtler but no less absurd in totality. In that scenario Yon had just thrown the most simple and basic tactics at Ryu, intending to lose to Ryu's forces like typical, but the game had simply not cooperated with either of them. Neither had particularly good or bad luck with the rolls, it was just that Ryu's advances kept bouncing off Yon's units and Yon kept being in a situation where the most obvious move was clearly also the best one and he would have insulted Ryu if he did anything else.

Ryu had been fuming by the end of the whole thing, but no one in the quarantine room could point to anything Yon had done that had been particularly clever, or anyway the scenario as devised should have given him some sort of starting advantage. He'd just kind of won in the most boring way possible, which hadn't made any sense to any of the three men in the room. It had just sort of happened.

Although after a few more weeks of going over lessons in tactics and leadership, as well as losing the vast majority of the wargames he played, Yon was starting to get a feeling for the way the Celestials did things. They did things by using vast numbers of mortals to haul large amounts of equipment in such a way that they could concentrate extraordinary levels of violence on points and then pounded them like a miner driving stakes in order to split a stone. It wasn't clever or elegant, but it worked.

Then again there had been this one match where suddenly everything had clicked for Ryu and his units began to practically dance across the battlefield, and Yon had pulled out all of his own stops just to try to keep up with the sublime ballet of simulated violence and to extend the experience. He had actually enjoyed rather than accepted his loss in that game, and the next few matches had seen both players frustrated that they couldn't replicate that magic before they returned to their typical routine.

Near the end of their isolation they received not educational or historical material, but actual updates as to their overall objective. As was obvious, the Celestials were preparing for a great conflict, but the depth of the preparation was more extensive than anything Yon had imagined.

It seemed that they were on a giant ship capable of sailing a spiritual sea, able to move between realms of existence. Their ultimate objective was still out of the scope of the material, but spiritual realms apparently had tides and currents and shoals that made the ease of their navigation differ with place and time. The realm their sect had been from was part of a particular current known as the King's Processional, so named for its relative ease and stability while also taking a particularly long route through the local branches of the World, passing through or close to most major features.

Their first stop would have them remind a local lord of their allegiances through a show of force, which would give the conscripts a chance to experience deployment and a taste of combat in the manner of the Celestials. They would be met up by the second wave of conscripts from the sects set to leave at the six month mark, and then the blooded veterans would be merged with the green conscripts to teach them on the way to the next stop. This overall process of either picking up recruits and supplies from loyal worlds or experience in battle from reminding lazy and wayward rulers seemed intended to repeat at least a half dozen times along the Processional before they actually were ready for the actual campaign.

The majority of the information provided was on their first stop.

The First Stop
[ ] Seka, the Phoenix Realm; another realm of sects and cultivators
[ ] Oublie, the Eternal Deeps; a strange place dominated by thousands of pocket spirit realms
[ ] Eclipse, the Twilight March; where the sun never sets nor rises

AN: This one fought me, so have a simple bridging chapter
 
He had actually enjoyed rather than accepted his loss in that game, and the next few matches had seen both players frustrated that they couldn't replicate that magic before they returned to their typical routine.
God that's the worst. You know it's possible, you did it once. And yet it still slips through your fingers ...
[X] Seka, the Phoenix Realm; another realm of sects and cultivators
Let us see how we have changed, by comparison to that which is similar
 
[X] Seka, the Phoenix Realm; another realm of sects and cultivators

Hope you're ready for the grandfather's folds Culti-nerds! (I believe that'd be Celestial speak for "hell yeah! Brothers!")
 
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