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Earth Bet: House of the Sun (Cultist Simulator/Worm)

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[X]Plan: Prepare and summon
-[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
--[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
-[X] On work and the people you preach to.
--[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
-[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
--[X] Create a Ritual
---[X]Try to create a ritual for healing mental afflictions
-[X] On learning the Lores
--[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
---[X] Edge x2
-[X] On matters outside the cult.
--[X] Spend time with somebody
---[X] Sol
-[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
--[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
-[X] Something else?
--[X]The Boston library expedition
-[X] On furthering the cause.
--[X] Take money from the Discretionary Reserve (50 Funds)
-[X] Cast a Ritual
--[X] AotL, Knock
--[X] Summon a Sun Spark[Baldomerian]
--[X] Summon a Dappled Wing[Charlotte]
-[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
--[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
[X] Plan Summon Spamming While Edge Nabbing
 
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Talon TigerDino said:
Our Realization says we have to establish ourself as a mentor for that. He is our equal in SH, so that makes things rather difficult.
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Ah, I checked, and I thought this Grail realization tells you how to raise to only Confidante and Minion levels. Noted. Well, I doubt we'll have something to teach him anytime soon. Also, how do people think we raised relationship levels before? We didn't know exactly what they wanted.

Witherbrine26 said:
Spending time and effort (read: actions or funds) on a Friend may upgrade them to a Close Friend.
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I believe just spending time with him will be enough.
 
des-pair-2 said:
Ah, I checked, and I thought this Grail realization tells you how to raise to only Confidante and Minion levels. Noted. Well, I doubt we'll have something to teach him anytime soon. Also, how do people think we raised relationship levels before? We didn't know exactly what they wanted.



I believe just spending time with him will be enough.
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For getting him to Close Friend, sure, but I'm focused on lifting people to Confidante. And we've got Ashley lined up to be our next Confidante so should focus on that. It'd be embarrassing if she got made into a Disciple too before we got around to it.
 
[X] Plan Summon Spamming While Edge Nabbing
-[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
--[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)d
---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
-[X] On work and the people you preach to.
--[X] There's been a problem, one that requires time off (Gain three extra actions, a few people may notice.)
-[X] On learning the Lores
--[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
---[X] What lore? (Edge) X2
-[X] Cast a Ritual
--[X] What ritual are you casting? (AotL: Knock)
--[X] Summon a Sun Spark X2
-[X] On Charlotte, and her aid (These are actions exclusive to Charlotte)
--[X] Summon a Dappled Wing
-[X] On Good Baldomerian and her brilliance (These are actions exclusive to Baldomerian)
--[X] Also Summon a Dappled Wing
-[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
--[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
-[X] On matters outside the cult.
--[X] Talk to Baldomerian about the letter your other self? gave you
-[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
--[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
-[X] Something else?
--[X] Lead an expedition (The Boston Library)

Behold my Plan in all its greed. We take three extra actions because the town is in our pocket, our Moth Realization reduces our suspicion for taking extra actions, and there's simply no real need to be cautious at the moment. With our plethora of actions we shall gain Edge 3 via Lessons, which can only help us with training Ashley. We will go flex on the Boston Library, as every Plan here does. We keep trying to train Ashley lest someone steals that march on us. We have our Sun Spark try to get us money, because we want money and we need to see how this action works. And then we have a whopping four summons this turn, two Sun Sparks and two Dappled Wings. The Dappled Wings are going to be an Artifact gathering engine, and the Sun Sparks can grant us bountiful rerolls or, if the checkbook action turns out to be really good, an engine for funds.

Now, why am I having Emir summon the Sparks instead of the Baldomerian? It's because he's actually better at it. His Knock 3 + Piety + Intuitive gives him a personal bonus of +46 to the Knock check compared to Baldomerian's + 30; throw in the Caddre Bonus and he's only failing on a nat 1. In fact, he only fails any of the checks on a nat 1, our cadre is monstrous in the bonus it gives to everything.
 
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Having Teresa summon a dappled wing feels like a real waste of her abilities.

Especially since I think it is... rather overly ambitious to think that we'll find more than 2 low level artifacts with our dappled wings in the time we have.

A better use would be to have her *scry* for targets for the Dappled Wing to go steal next turn. We already know their odds of finding books actually aren't great, their odds for artifacts have to be lower. The target being scried should improve things dramatically. Something like "Location and proction of Artifacts of [insert desired lores] that a Dappled Wing can retrieve"
 
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Byzantine said:
Having Teresa summon a dappled wing feels like a real waste of her abilities.

Especially since I think it is... rather overly ambitious to think that we'll find more than 2 low level artifacts with our dappled wings in the time we have.

A better use would be to have her *scry* for targets for the Dappled Wing to go steal next turn. We already know their odds of finding books actually aren't great, their odds for artifacts have to be lower. The target being scried should improve things dramatically. Something like "Location and proction of Artifacts of [insert desired lores] that a Dappled Wing can retrieve"
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She can scry for such things next turn, since the Dappled Wings cannot loot this turn anyways.
 
Byzantine said:
Having Teresa summon a dappled wing feels like a real waste of her abilities.

Especially since I think it is... rather overly ambitious to think that we'll find more than 2 low level artifacts with our dappled wings in the time we have.

A better use would be to have her *scry* for targets for the Dappled Wing to go steal next turn. We already know their odds of finding books actually aren't great, their odds for artifacts have to be lower. The target being scried should improve things dramatically. Something like "Location and proction of Artifacts of [insert desired lores] that a Dappled Wing can retrieve"
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Witherbrine26 said:
[Dappled Wing - Steal Books, DC: 40/60/80...]

[Roll: 43+25(Subtle) = 68]
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A Dappled Wing only had to roll a 15 or higher to get a book. Even if we up the DC by 20, it still only needs a 35 on a d100 to acquire something. If it's only upped to a TN of 50, then it only needs a 25 or higher. In short, I'm pretty sure they'll rustle up more than two artifacts over 6 separate attempts at Artifact robbery even without any external help.
 
Talon TigerDino said:
A Dappled Wing only had to roll a 15 or higher to get a book. Even if we up the DC by 20, it still only needs a 35 on a d100 to acquire something. If it's only upped to a TN of 50, then it only needs a 25 or higher. In short, I'm pretty sure they'll rustle up more than two artifacts over 6 separate attempts at Artifact robbery even without any external help.
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I'm expecting a DC of 80 for an artifact.

And I'm very confused you think it would be so easy, tbh.
 
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Talon TigerDino said:
That's the same DC as them finding a full-blown ritual. I really don't think a Lore 1 or Lore 2 Artifact will be that difficult to grab; I think it will be like the Book DCs, where there are multiple tiers of success.
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Yes... 80 is what I think a first tier success will look like.

I believe you are either underestimating how rare artifacts are, or overestimating how rare rituals are.
 
Byzantine said:
Yes... 80 is what I think a first tier success will look like.

I believe you are either underestimating how rare artifacts are, or overestimating how rare rituals are.
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And I believe you are underestimating the difficulty in finding rituals or overestimating the difficulty in finding artifacts. Like, finding a ritual requires searching through entire collections of books for some lore-inert paper that has the right diagrams and words on it. Artifacts actually give off Lore power that one can feel.
 
Ratato said:
3 Actions? Really?

Can't we just go 2 Actions and then delay the Summonings by a small amount?
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Yes, 3 Actions. Our Moth Realization makes our actions draw less suspicion, the town is essentially in the Cult's pocket, and we're not going to be doing anything terribly egregious. At least, nothing as egregious as the 3 action turn where we saved Ashley and killed a hero.
 
[X] Plan Summon Spamming While Edge Nabbing
Adhoc vote count started by Pempelune on Mar 30, 2025 at 3:00 AM, finished with 42 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Plan Summon Spamming While Edge Nabbing
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)d
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] There's been a problem, one that requires time off (Gain three extra actions, a few people may notice.)
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
    ---[X] What lore? (Edge)
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] What ritual are you casting? (AotL, Knock)
    --[X] Summon a Sun Spark
    -[X] On Charlotte, and her aid (These are actions exclusive to Charlotte)
    --[X] Summon a Dappled Wing[Charlotte]
    -[X] On Good Baldomerian and her brilliance (These are actions exclusive to Baldomerian)
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Talk to Baldomerian about the letter your other self? gave you
    -[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
    --[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
    -[X] Something else?
    --[X] Lead an expedition (The Boston Library)
    [X] Plan: Creating a cure
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual (Ask [Charlotte] for help)
    --[X] Acquire supplies and tools to aid your research
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] From the Cult's very own library (Gain 1 scrap of the chosen Lore)
    ---[X] Forge
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] What ritual are you casting? (AotL, Knock)
    --[X] [Baldomerian] What ritual are you casting? (The Reflection of the Tapestry, Search for three circle ritual spot with a Lantern bonus)
    -[X] The Mansus, a place of contradictions. It calls to you, reach out.
    --[X] The Woods
    ---[X] Return to that ancient, ruined temple and Aunt Mopsy who dwells within
    --[X] The Desolate Stairways
    ---[X] This place is perilous but at the same time there has to be things tucked away. Head up and down the stairs, searching for whatever you can find
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Talk to Baldomerian about the letter your other self? gave you
    -[X] Something else? (Go to The Boston Library)
    [X] Plan: Creating a cure - Artifact ver.
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual (Ask [Charlotte] for help)
    --[X] Acquire supplies and tools to aid your research
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] What ritual are you casting? (AotL, Knock)
    --[X] [Baldomerian] What ritual are you casting? (The Reflection of the Tapestry, level 6 Forge weapon)
    -[X] The Mansus, a place of contradictions. It calls to you, reach out.
    --[X] The Woods
    ---[X] Return to that ancient, ruined temple and Aunt Mopsy who dwells within
    --[X] The Desolate Stairways
    ---[X] This place is perilous but at the same time there has to be things tucked away. Head up and down the stairs, searching for whatever you can find
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Spend time with somebody
    ---[X] Who? (Sol)
    --[X] Talk to Baldomerian about the letter your other self? gave you
    -[X] Something else? (Go to The Boston Library)
    [X] Plan: Sharpening the Blade
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
    ---[X] Edge (x2)
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] The Attention of the Laws (Heart)
    --[X] Summon a Sun Spark
    --[X] (Charlotte) Summon a Dappled Wing
    --[X] (Baldomerian) The Reflection of the Tapestry (Best method(s) to permanently increase our income substantially)
    -[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
    --[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
    -[X] Something else?
    --[X] Lead an expedition (The Boston Library)
    --[X] (Free) Alert the Inner Circle about the Gunpowder's Cradle and your desire to complete it to acquire a powerful artifact weapon to use at the Haustorium
    -[X] On furthering the cause.
    --[X] Take money from the Discretionary Reserve (50 Funds)
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Prepare a plan for somebody, granting them a single reroll
    ---[X] Emir
    [X]Plan: Prepare and summon
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual
    ---[X]Try to create a ritual for healing mental afflictions
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
    ---[X] Edge (x2)
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Spend time with somebody
    ---[X] Sol
    -[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
    --[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
    -[X] Something else?
    --[X]The Boston library expedition
    -[X] On furthering the cause.
    --[X] Take money from the Discretionary Reserve (50 Funds)
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] AotL, Knock
    --[X] Summon a Sun Spark
    --[X] Summon a Dappled Wing[Charlotte]
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
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The tally seems to be seriously messing up the plan.
 
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Pempelune said:
[X] Plan Summon Spamming While Edge Nabbing
Adhoc vote count started by Pempelune on Mar 30, 2025 at 3:00 AM, finished with 42 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Plan Summon Spamming While Edge Nabbing
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)d
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] There's been a problem, one that requires time off (Gain three extra actions, a few people may notice.)
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
    ---[X] What lore? (Edge)
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] What ritual are you casting? (AotL, Knock)
    --[X] Summon a Sun Spark
    -[X] On Charlotte, and her aid (These are actions exclusive to Charlotte)
    --[X] Summon a Dappled Wing[Charlotte]
    -[X] On Good Baldomerian and her brilliance (These are actions exclusive to Baldomerian)
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Talk to Baldomerian about the letter your other self? gave you
    -[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
    --[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
    -[X] Something else?
    --[X] Lead an expedition (The Boston Library)
    [X] Plan: Creating a cure
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual (Ask [Charlotte] for help)
    --[X] Acquire supplies and tools to aid your research
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] From the Cult's very own library (Gain 1 scrap of the chosen Lore)
    ---[X] Forge
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] What ritual are you casting? (AotL, Knock)
    --[X] [Baldomerian] What ritual are you casting? (The Reflection of the Tapestry, Search for three circle ritual spot with a Lantern bonus)
    -[X] The Mansus, a place of contradictions. It calls to you, reach out.
    --[X] The Woods
    ---[X] Return to that ancient, ruined temple and Aunt Mopsy who dwells within
    --[X] The Desolate Stairways
    ---[X] This place is perilous but at the same time there has to be things tucked away. Head up and down the stairs, searching for whatever you can find
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Talk to Baldomerian about the letter your other self? gave you
    -[X] Something else? (Go to The Boston Library)
    [X] Plan: Creating a cure - Artifact ver.
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual (Ask [Charlotte] for help)
    --[X] Acquire supplies and tools to aid your research
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] What ritual are you casting? (AotL, Knock)
    --[X] [Baldomerian] What ritual are you casting? (The Reflection of the Tapestry, level 6 Forge weapon)
    -[X] The Mansus, a place of contradictions. It calls to you, reach out.
    --[X] The Woods
    ---[X] Return to that ancient, ruined temple and Aunt Mopsy who dwells within
    --[X] The Desolate Stairways
    ---[X] This place is perilous but at the same time there has to be things tucked away. Head up and down the stairs, searching for whatever you can find
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Spend time with somebody
    ---[X] Who? (Sol)
    --[X] Talk to Baldomerian about the letter your other self? gave you
    -[X] Something else? (Go to The Boston Library)
    [X] Plan: Sharpening the Blade
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
    ---[X] Edge (x2)
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] The Attention of the Laws (Heart)
    --[X] Summon a Sun Spark
    --[X] (Charlotte) Summon a Dappled Wing
    --[X] (Baldomerian) The Reflection of the Tapestry (Best method(s) to permanently increase our income substantially)
    -[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
    --[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
    -[X] Something else?
    --[X] Lead an expedition (The Boston Library)
    --[X] (Free) Alert the Inner Circle about the Gunpowder's Cradle and your desire to complete it to acquire a powerful artifact weapon to use at the Haustorium
    -[X] On furthering the cause.
    --[X] Take money from the Discretionary Reserve (50 Funds)
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Prepare a plan for somebody, granting them a single reroll
    ---[X] Emir
    [X]Plan: Prepare and summon
    -[X] You are injured (You currently have one wound. You'll make three rolls at +20 against a DC of 70. You must select one of the below)
    --[X] Rest and recover (Cost zero actions, roll three recovery dice. +20/+20/+20)
    ---[X] Your body will heal on its own terms (Costs nothing)
    -[X] On work and the people you preach to.
    --[X] It is simply a busy month, you'll still be spending plenty of time preaching though (Gain two extra actions, will not be noticed if not done often.)
    -[X] On the goal, of rites, rituals, and summoned creatures
    --[X] Create a Ritual
    ---[X]Try to create a ritual for healing mental afflictions
    -[X] On learning the Lores
    --[X] Lady Mylissa is willing to teach, request a lesson
    ---[X] Edge (x2)
    -[X] On matters outside the cult.
    --[X] Spend time with somebody
    ---[X] Sol
    -[X] On helping and teaching Ashley
    --[X] Continue to help Ashley control her powers
    -[X] Something else?
    --[X]The Boston library expedition
    -[X] On furthering the cause.
    --[X] Take money from the Discretionary Reserve (50 Funds)
    -[X] Cast a Ritual
    --[X] AotL, Knock
    --[X] Summon a Sun Spark
    --[X] Summon a Dappled Wing[Charlotte]
    -[X] On Sun Sparks and their leadership (These are actions exclusive to Sun Sparks)
    --[X] Work over the checkbooks, squeeze a bit more money from them
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The tally seems to be seriously messing up the plan.
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Wow, it really is. I wonder why.
 
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