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ArcanaVitae said:
For all that Va and Yon's relationship is primarily business they're actually friends in a weird way and she isn't really going to have as easy of a time adapting as he is.
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Although they may end up much closer in rank due to this, which will make it much easier for them to support each other.

Hopefully the Sect and Va can pull out some cultivation goodies, as it looks like Yon will have to lead 20 people or more, who may not be impressed about the situation.
 
[X] Hang back to help those struggling

We know there's already some particular attention on Yon twice: once (and more clear) for his performance with the forced learning device, and once for actually stepping up to help some of the people who had trouble. So sandbagging probably won't work for anyone outside of our cohort.

I'm not sure showing off is the best idea - it could look good given the setting and how they've made clear there are first mover advantages, but that could also easily be designed to find the people who are too ambitious to be useful (or at least trusted) after a few layers of it.

Then between hanging back or doing ok, I'm kind of thinking on some layer hanging back will look better for a medical pavilion guy - that's our form of excelling
 
ArcanaVitae said:
He's long since accepted that the world is shit and there's nothing he can really do about it. He can control his own actions and that's it and he chooses to look after himself and his people.
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True enlightenment is realizing that a Xianxia world is inherently fucked.

> It's a crossover with a setting that's even worse.

Ah... Best of luck, Yon. You're gonna need it.
 
The3rdCorinthian said:
you know, In hindsight, the fact this quest doesn't come with an "original" tag should have been a hint.
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You know I didn't actually connect the dots until I saw the discussion. Which is ironic considering I pulled the exact same thing on my own voters.

Anyway, for the vote. Yeah, not standing out one way or the other is probably the correct (not the good there is nothing good about our situation) choice.

[X] Don't stand out one way or the other, just do a good job
 
blankmask said:
Ok. I can't figure out what it's crossed over with?
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Warhammer 40k, we were just drafted to war.

Whatever the war is against the imperium or we will just be sent against another chaos warband is still up in the air.

I would say our early choices are extremely good keeping that in mimd, we aren't as physically strong as we would otherwise be with combat speciality, but we are unlikely to see any pills where we are going, we would probably see resources though, waiting to be turned into pills.

And our boons would probably serve as some protection from corruption, downside is that our allies would likely soon see explosive growth in strength should they welcome that corruption.

we are much better pff than the average, warhammer is a world populated by mostly humans and beasts, even a space marine is no that superhuman, early on we seem to be weaker, but given some time to grow and would likely rise to surpass most lesser demons and space marines soon enough.

Keeping in mind the strength of cultivators, our sect's old cultivators should be able to crush most chaos warbands if it became a fight of soldiers, I am guessing we didn't tell them to fuck off either for fear of their ships, their backers, or the psyker we saw.
 
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The3rdCorinthian said:
Warhammer 40K.

The descriptions of the celestials line up extremely well with the Chaos Marines, and the epithets of the deities we know of line up with the Chaos Gods (Tzeentch is Knowing Flame, Harvestfather is Nurgle, Storm Lord is Khorne, and Lotus Prince is Slaanesh).
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Ah. Well the benifit of a Xianxia setting with Thai is that we can do things like get magic superpowers. I'd bet the CSM have a few tricks but I'd also bet that we are going to scale quickly. I'm looking forward to the day we can force a Chaos Marine to kneel.
 
Roth963 said:
Warhammer 40k, we were just drafted to war.

Whatever the war is against the imperium or we will just be sent against another chaos warband is still up in the air.

I would say our early choices are extremely good keeping that in mimd, we aren't as physically strong as we would otherwise be with combat speciality, but we are unlikely to see any pills where we are going, we would probably see resources though, waiting to be turned into pills.

And our boons would probably serve as some protection from corruption, downside is that our allies would likely soon see explosive growth in strength should they welcome that corruption.

we are much better pff than the average, warhammer is a world populated by mostly humans and beasts, even a space marine is no that superhuman, early on we seem to be weaker, but given some time to grow and would likely rise to surpass most lesser demons and space marines soon enough.

Keeping in mind the strength of cultivators, our sect's old cultivators should be able to crush most chaos warbands if it became a fight of soldiers, I am guessing we didn't tell them to fuck off either for fear of their ships, their backers, or the psyker we saw.
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Alternatively, the entire 40k universe practices some variation of cultivation. Emps whole deal sounds like a typical Xianxia cultivator in a lot of ways, just one with even more hax than usual.
 
blankmask said:
I'm looking forward to the day we can force a Chaos Marine to kneel.
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I am personally not, as far as I am concerned, the vast majority of them are like animals with rabies, they should just be put down.

They are monsters but it is hard not the sympathize with the horror of their existence when you know how they are made.

Chaos worshippers are mostly better off just dead, making a young master kneel does sound amusing, but with chaos I struggle to muster any hate, they are sick.
The3rdCorinthian said:
Alternatively, the entire 40k universe practices some variation of cultivation. Emps whole deal sounds like a typical Xianxia cultivator in a lot of ways, just one with even more hax than usual.
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If so than yes, we are pretty screwed, only our xianxia protagonist statue will get us out from the hole we just fell into.
 
Roth963 said:
I am personally not, as far as I am concerned, the vast majority of them are like animals with rabies, they should just be put down.

They are monsters but it is hard not the sympathize with the horror of their existence when you know how they are made.

Chaos worshippers are mostly better off just dead, making a young master kneel does sound amusing, but with chaos I struggle to muster any hate, they are sick.

If so than yes, we are pretty screwed, only our xianxia protagonist statue will get us out from the hole we just fell into.
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Eh… I wouldn't say we're necessarily turbofucked. Some takes on Xianxia lean into the off repeated concept of cultivation being defying the Heavens as a jumping off point for themes about overturning an unjust status quo. I can think of fewer settings where something like that would apply than one based on 40K.
 
The3rdCorinthian said:
Alternatively, the entire 40k universe practices some variation of cultivation. Emps whole deal sounds like a typical Xianxia cultivator in a lot of ways, just one with even more hax than usual.
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…. Also possible.

Finally, I'm really impressed with the amount of benefits and tricks when we did character generation. They synergize really well, making us a great deal tougher than we really should be.


Roth963 said:
I am personally not, as far as I am concerned, the vast majority of them are like animals with rabies, they should just be put down.

They are monsters but it is hard not the sympathize with the horror of their existence when you know how they are made.

Chaos worshippers are mostly better off just dead, making a young master kneel does sound amusing, but with chaos I struggle to muster any hate, they are sick.
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… yeah honestly. It's probably more trouble than it's worth.

Frankly the level of… hopelessness, I guess, depends on the ratio of Xianxia to Warhammer. If it's more Xianxia it's probably a reasonable chance that we don't have to worry quite as much about incidental meme hazards because Xianxia has ways to deal with that. If it's more Warhammer and we're just doing essentially creative psykery applied oddly We're pretty much screwed.

I'm hoping it's more Xianxia simply because there we have a chance.
 
blankmask said:
If it's more Warhammer and we're just doing essentially creative psykery applied oddly We're pretty much screwed.
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Not really, cultivators can scale theoretically forever, so if we are creatively applied psykers, we are ones who can change our grade.

I am guessing ascension in this verse is becoming powerful enough to survive the warp, probably followed by joining the game as a minor player, or maybe the first ascension is growing powerful enough to survive, the second being getting too powerful to come back.

In warhammer you can avoid chaos with sufficient strength of will and strong body, Magnus had been playing with demons since he was a kid and even if you completely broke him, no demon can just stroll over and possess him, it was his own actions that brought his fall, not the actions of others forcing him.

His mistake was arrogance.

We got the cattle stomach and diamond body, we got alchemy to purify our resources while our peers will likely only have corrupted stuff to fuel further advancement, we are xianxia protagonist.

As ling as we avoid temptation and don't take chaos' boons, our arts should protect us.
 
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The3rdCorinthian said:
Eh, his and others. But he's the one who ultimately chose, and his insane levels of hubris absolutely sealed the deal.
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When I say his own action, I meant hat Tzeench didn't mind whammy him into going evil, he chose to accept those deals, Tzeench manipulated him to accept them, but he chose to accept, and only after he accepted he was corrupted.

This is what I think we would deal with, the choice to accept the gods or reject them, and we should never say yes, no matter the cost, the moment we did, we put the first leg on the slope to be their slaves.

The bare minimum to not be a slave to the gods while being chaos aligned is going chaos undivided, and even than, you just become slave to dammantion, instead of one god in particular, we can preferably avoid it altogether.
 
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Roth963 said:
When I say his own action, I meant hat Tzeench didn't mind whammy him into going evil, he chose to accept those deals, Tzeench manipulated him to accept them, but he chose to accept, and only after he accepted he was corrupted.

This is what I think we would deal with, the choice to accept the gods or reject them, and we should never say yes, no matter the cost, the moment we did, we put the first leg on the slope to be their slaves.

The bare minimum to not be a slave to the gods while being chaos aligned is going chaos undivided, and even than, you just become slave to dammantion, instead of one god in particular, we can preferably avoid it altogether.
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Oh abso-fucking-lutley. The Warp is filled with cackling bastards and fascists. I want nothing to do with any of them ever.
 
Roth963 said:
Not really, cultivators can scale theoretically forever, so if we are creatively applied psykers, we are ones who can change our grade.

I am guessing ascension in this verse is becoming powerful enough to survive the warp, probably followed by joining the game as a minor player, or maybe the first ascension is growing powerful enough to survive, the second being getting too powerful to come back.
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And that's why I'm less worried than if this was pure Warhammer. Ascension is a long way off but it means we're able to achieve canon emperor levels eventually. So it's still incredibly dangerous as a setting and it's probably going to be horrible for a bit… but it isn't hopeless like Warhammer is. Because with Warhammer, you spend a short miserable life suffering, then die and are eaten by a deamon. Unless you're a perpetual or Aeldari or Necron, you will suffer pointlessly throughout your life and death.

Here? That's not guaranteed. You, random schmuck, can achieve ascension and break that fate.
 
[X] Don't stand out one way or the other, just do a good job

Like others have said this is military basic. And a huge chunk of that is building up the cohesion and drill so that a mass formation can endure lots of casualties without breaking. Performative excellence is not the name of the game here, enduring the systematic brutalization that's meant to inure our group to the losses it will inevitably take in fighting is.

our alchemy skills might be valued, but this seems to be a winnowing and a primer as far as the Celestials are concerned, the fact there's no sorting whatsoever seems to indicate that a common shared baseline is the point.
 
Academia Nut said:
[ ] Blood of a Living Forge - a hunt will be needed for this dangerous spirit beast
[ ] Umbral Crescents - these toxic fungi are found in the lightless crypts of the Deep Archives
[ ] Sarcophagus Sphagnum - this desiccating moss can be found in the moors nearby
[ ] Quicksilver Honey - made by prism bees along the mountain flanks of the Sect
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...Oh ACADEMIA NUT YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!

Living Forge is the Khorne option - Burning Blood. Umbral Crescents grow in the Deep Archives, that's Tzeentch, Quicksilver Honey literally requires you use a material that smells like sex to get close to the bees. I can't think of the connection between the Sphagnum and Nurgle, because Dessication seems rather counter to Rot, but I'm damn sure there is now!

You have some kind of Goddamned tracker that you're using to see whether we're aprticularly aligned with one of the 4, don't you?! How long have you been laughing at us you dogass qm!!!!!

Academia Nut said:
The Sarcophagus Sphagnum was needed both to physically accelerate the desiccation process, and to spiritually neutralize out the lingering alignment to the Knowing Flame the fungus held.
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That's it! That's the thing that seals the Nurgle Connection!

Sarcophagus Sphagnum being spiritually aligned with Nurgle, the Chaos God of Decay and Stagnation, means that it's able to counter and neutralise the Influence of Tzeentch, who embodies change!

... @Aleph , you were the one who helped with the alchemy notes. How much do you know?! Tell me your secrets, catgirl!

Unless you don't want to , I'm not actually going crazy this time.
 
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The3rdCorinthian said:
...Oh ACADEMIA NUT YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!

Living Forge is the Khorne option - Burning Blood. Umbral Crescents grow in the Deep Archives, that's Tzeentch, Quicksilver Honey literally requires you use a material that smells like sex to get close to the bees. I can't think of the connection between the Sphagnum and Nurgle, because Dessication seems rather counter to Rot, but I'm damn sure there is now!

You have some kind of Goddamned tracker that you're using to see whether we're aprticularly aligned with one of the 4, don't you?! How long have you been laughing at us you dogass qm!!!!!


That's it! That's the thing that seals the Nurgle Connection!

Sarcophagus Sphagnum being spiritually aligned with Nurgle, the Chaos God of Decay and Stagnation, means that it's able to counter and neutralise the Influence of Tzeentch, who embodies change!

... @Aleph , you were the one who helped with the alchemy notes. How much do you know?! Tell me your secrets, catgirl!

Unless you don't want to , I'm not actually going crazy this time.
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Huh, I wonder how far back this goes, does the profession Yon choose and his ally also have hidden alignments.
 
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