I think a good role for Yon to try and chase after is the most notable Alchemist and Healer Outer Disciple. Between his deeper understanding of concepts and his good body and mind he can get that position. And being able to keep the role of alchemist and healer is a great idea and hopefully he can get some training in those skills on top of normal basic training.
 
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Ah. Thank you. That's useful information.
Please note that everyone voting the same way can screw people just as much as help them. It's usually not worth trying to game the system so much as being aware of it.

The other thing that tends to happen is AN pays attention to what the thread is saying, so it's usually worth it to explain the reasoning for your vote. Or throw out random tidbits and ideas that could translate to cool stuff. It's usually beneficial to talk about what you hope for and what you're worried about.
 
If this is basic physical training, then what does it mean for a Medical Pavilion disciple to 'not stand out' anyway?
Keeping up with the Martial disciples would be unusual. Not keeping up with them would be falling behind the average.
 
If this is basic physical training, then what does it mean for a Medical Pavilion disciple to 'not stand out' anyway?
Keeping up with the Martial disciples would be unusual. Not keeping up with them would be falling behind the average.
He's already been noted to be able to take a lot more due to how he handled the language transfer and while it was mostly a mental thing it's still enough for him to be noted to be impressive. So an impressive medical pavilion person keeping up with more physical people wouldn't be to surprising.
 
If this is basic physical training, then what does it mean for a Medical Pavilion disciple to 'not stand out' anyway?
Keeping up with the Martial disciples would be unusual. Not keeping up with them would be falling behind the average.
It's worth noting that while disciples were tagged, they weren't grouped. That is, Yon was given a Medical token, but I don't think he's with the other Medical disciples, just whoever was nearby when he got to the front of the line. So most of the people here are likely combat disciples (from whatever division that is in this story)

Honestly I'm not entirely sure we can stand out, at least positively. We've got a good body, but at the end of the day we're a medic, not a warrior. We likely weren't going to be head of pack.
 
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If this is basic physical training, then what does it mean for a Medical Pavilion disciple to 'not stand out' anyway?
Keeping up with the Martial disciples would be unusual. Not keeping up with them would be falling behind the average.
Ideally, we want to keep up. That means that we don't stand out in the moment, and there's no need to treat us any differently from anyone else, and then later when they have reason to check and it turns out that we're an alchemist, it makes us look a bit better.

Being an alchemist might get us some extra slack for falling behind, making it less bad, but being weaker than the overall average is never going to be a good thing.

Actually, ideally we'd be in the top half but not, like, the top tenth. Being a bit better than average is better than being a bit worse than average. Not sure how possible that is, but it's the ideal.
 
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The group entered into a major antechamber, one of the study halls and arming rooms that lead towards the Deep Archives. The regular furniture had been cleared out of the way, with the primary point of interest being the dozen or so mortal servants whose bodies were stacked in a bloody heap on one side of the room. They had been flayed and their skulls broken open, with their skins twisted around an arched doorway and their brains being used to write upon the macabre parchment. The author of the atrocity was a man of stooped mortal stature so buried within his robes that his face could not be seen, his limbs atrophied but his spiritual presence so great he was moving the viscera that was his ink with his mind alone.

Yon didn't know where to look, since everything was unpleasant. The script was simultaneously fascinating but also made his head spin to gaze upon it. The bodies taunted him with their ghastly anonymity: had he known any of those servants, had he interacted with any of them? He knew from personal experience how little the lives of mortals could mean to those spiritually greater than them, but this was different.

It was the looks in the eyes of the other disciples that finally clued Yon into what was different. If an elder wanted to run an experiment on mortals, it was generally seen as a courtesy to other disciples to not make a public mess. This display showed that fundamentally the Celestials saw the disciples as little better than the mortals, meaning that perhaps for the first time in their lives these disciples were feeling empathy for the flayed and shattered bodies on the floor, and they did not like it.
Guys, I know this might be a bit out there, and it's kind of a gut feeling. Honestly I don't even know where this is coming from, i'm going out on a bit of a limb here...

But... I think we might be the baddies?
 
We are, in fact, almost certainly the baddies. We might not be the worst baddies, but even back planetside, the sect probably wasn't a shining example of morality and ethics.
 
Everyone is the bad guys. It's just a sliding scale of horribleness. Yon has avoided doing immoral stuff but that's not going to stay the case given who he's working for now.
 
We are, in fact, almost certainly the baddies. We might not be the worst baddies, but even back planetside, the sect probably wasn't a shining example of morality and ethics.
Everyone is the bad guys. It's just a sliding scale of horribleness.
...You do realise that me looking at the giant pillars of flesh being used as portals and me going "I think we might not be on the side of the angels" is very much meant to be something of a shitpost, right?

Yon has avoided doing immoral stuff but that's not going to stay the case given who he's working for now.
Probably, though I do hope we last long enough to start punching up against these guys.

For all that Yon is very much focused on his own survival, he's shown at least some empathy for mortals getting screwed over (one of the reasons he isn't fond of Va probably going for an 'Affair of the Handmaidens Climax' is mortal handmaidens getting caught up when they have no say) and he's been shown to be someone who's pretty decent towards his subordinates. I don't think he's going to take being told to commit atrocities well, especially if these Not!Chaos Marines tell him to treat his subordinates as disposable.

But that'll all depend on the circumstances we find ourselves in.
 
...You do realise that me looking at the giant pillars of flesh being used as portals and me going "I think we might not be on the side of the angels" is very much meant to be something of a shitpost, right?
I know I was just using it as a pivot to talk about oh hey us being the baddies is kinda a big deal and should be talked about.

Probably, though I do hope we last long enough to start punching up against these guys.

For all that Yon is very much focused on his own survival, he's shown at least some empathy for mortals getting screwed over (one of the reasons he isn't fond of Va probably going for an 'Affair of the Handmaidens Climax' is mortal handmaidens getting caught up when they have no say) and he's been shown to be someone who's pretty decent towards his subordinates. I don't think he's going to take being told to commit atrocities well, especially if these Not!Chaos Marines tell him to treat his subordinates as disposable.

But that'll all depend on the circumstances we find ourselves in.
Yon has morals it's just he's always going to prioritize survival and personal growth which is understandable. But even being a good boss and reasonable person makes him better then most people around him.
 
[X] Don't stand out one way or the other, just do a good job

Yeah if you extend too good they'd just force everyone to match your pace and everyone's gonna hate you.
 
...You do realise that me looking at the giant pillars of flesh being used as portals and me going "I think we might not be on the side of the angels" is very much meant to be something of a shitpost, right?
That's fair. Years of being awful at detecting sarcasm has left me with a powerful instinct to play it straight as a defense mechanism, even when I have successfully detected that it is sarcasm.
 
[X] Don't stand out one way or the other, just do a good job

Thought to try help with others to show off our healer abilities.

But I don't think they will care, the man with atrophied limbs make me more inclined to agree that this is warhammer or warhammer like world.

As well as the soldiers mentioning us being blessed by the gods and the giant people, now looking to me more like chaos space marines.

I kind of pity all the noble parents in the sect, they are probably coming to terms with having lost their children to painful death and torture.


I think the question that will come up soon is if to take on demonic cultivation or not, hopefully we will be sent against non humans so that we can eat them for resources without demonic cultivation.

Normally I don't really care about demonic cultivation as long as it isn't taken too far, gaining power by consuming other human cultivators isn't all that different from an xp system, but with the chaos gods being around, taking their poisoned booms for power now could easily trap us from ever escaping.
 
Guys, I know this might be a bit out there, and it's kind of a gut feeling. Honestly I don't even know where this is coming from, i'm going out on a bit of a limb here...

But... I think we might be the baddies?
"Going out on a pile of malformed corpseflesh", while a more accurate description of Yon's method of travel, doesn't quite have the same ring to it as an idiom.
 
Yon has morals it's just he's always going to prioritize survival and personal growth which is understandable. But even being a good boss and reasonable person makes him better then most people around him.
Honestly, a read a lot of his current survival prioritisation and personal growth to me read as him having just kind of accepted that He'll never be able to do anything about it, so why bother giving a shit. Depending on how things turn out, that might expand as his circumstances change.

I'm not expecting him to try to unga his way out of this at the first atrocity, but I do think something like that would push him into thinking about what he could do and start planning.

As an aside, Yons thoughts on how the Young Masters are going to absolutely put their feet in their mouths is interesting. There's definitely an element of sadism to knowing the people who have tended to torment him are going to hoist themselves by their own petard, but he's also worried about how Va is going to respond. Which makes sense, since she's someone he actually knows, but it does show he's not quite as mercenary about it as he considers himself.
 
Honestly, a read a lot of his current survival prioritisation and personal growth to me read as him having just kind of accepted that He'll never be able to do anything about it, so why bother giving a shit. Depending on how things turn out, that might expand as his circumstances change.

I'm not expecting him to try to unga his way out of this at the first atrocity, but I do think something like that would push him into thinking about what he could do and start planning.
He's long since accepted that the world is shit and there's nothing he can really do about it. He can control his own actions and that's it and he chooses to look after himself and his people.

As an aside, Yons thoughts on how the Young Masters are going to absolutely put their feet in their mouths is interesting. There's definitely an element of sadism to knowing the people who have tended to torment him are going to hoist themselves by their own petard, but he's also worried about how Va is going to respond. Which makes sense, since she's someone he actually knows, but it does show he's not quite as mercenary about it as he considers himself.
Yon for all that he's able to take the beatings and keep his mouth shut and head down, he's still human and he hates the people who've hurt him and doesn't really like those like them. So it's natural to have schadenfreude when they're on the other side of things for once. For all that Va and Yon's relationship is primarily business they're actually friends in a weird way and she isn't really going to have as easy of a time adapting as he is.
 
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