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STAR WARS: The Galactic Civil War

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The Following is a Transcription of a Speech by Captain of the Guard Taggart

Captain of the Guard Taggart: Gentlemen and women of the Senate Guard, as our beloved Republic marches into the new era we find ourselves challenged. Challenged by new threats and our new charges. We cannot remain as we have been, corrupt and fallible. The galaxy marches to war and we must follow not because we are the elite who will decide the outcomes of battles but because we are the last line that stands in defense of democracy. We are the thin blue line defending the heart of the Republic, her elected leaders.

Make no mistake, the war will come to us! The enemy will come. They will send assassins. They will send saboteurs. They will send armies. But. We. Will. Hold! Not because we can, but because we must! Because we are not soldiers, we are the Senate Guard! Ours is not to spill blood of our enemies but to defend. Not to spend our lives in seeking victory over our enemy, but to ensure that even at the cost of hundreds of our own that we will be able to preserve a single other life!

However spirit alone does not allow us to make meaningful sacrifice. Spirit does not grant us the means to defeat military grade blasters or duraplast armored battle droids. Spirit does not down squadrons of starfighters or set ablaze columns of tanks. Nor does spirit allow us to keep apace with our new representatives. Spirit does not enlargen us so that we may shield men and women four times our height with our bodies! It does not make it so that we able to take the blaster bolts meant for them! To carry them to safety!

For that, we need more than spirit. We need steel. Steel the likes the galaxy has seen but once before.

*Two curtains are drawn back revealing a massive mural painted on the wall standing behind the Captain.*


In times past the ancient Mandalorians rode into battle astride great war machines that merged walker, starfighter, and companion into one body. They called them Bes'uliik. Iron beasts.

We too will ride such machines, though not in the name of crusade or conquest. We will do so to defend. Such that when the enemy does arrive with their armies and weapons we, the thin blue line, can hold. Such that when the enemy does reach for those that we are sworn to protect, those who are the lifeblood of our Republic and our democracy, we will always be able to interpose ourselves between them and death.

Because we are the Senate Guard and our duty is not to kill for the Republic, but to die for her.

A/N: Because it's occurred to me that the Senate Guard would need a hell of a gear upgrade if they're going to be serious about protecting the Republic's politicians, who thanks to Jar Jar, are no longer limited to human sized people whose primary means of locomotion is walking.

After all, how's the space Secret Service supposed to be doing their job of diving in front of space bullets when the persons that they're guarding are six plus meter tall mecha-fighter hybrids if not to get their own?
 
The problem is that prime isnt actually a droid vote version of the ongoing quest despite the packaging- it's very obviously derailing and disavowed by its original creator as wrecking quest tone. We can all see what it is lol.

At this point it's either Jarjar!Tarkin or nothing re: the original quest. It's not like the vulture droid which would be a serious distinction without going for a crossover.

Prime being tied singlehandedly makes jarTarkin the viable option *by default.*
 
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Ugolino said:
The problem is that prime isnt actually a droid vote version of the ongoing quest despite the packaging- it's very obviously derailing and disavowed by its original creator as wrecking quest tone. We can all see what it is lol.

At this point it's either Jarjar!Tarkin or nothing re: the original quest. It's not like the vulture droid which would be a serious distinction without going for a crossover.

Prime being tied singlehandedly makes jarTarkin the viable option *by default.*
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Or, hear me out, just change the vote and convince other people to do the same, instead of going for the plan you don't even like, only because you dislike the other winning plan even more.
Ugolino said:
I am explicitly noting I am not a fan of the tarkin option.
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We have a week. There's plenty of time for discussion and vote changing, Jar Jar in the previous quest wasn't winning at first, either. So, you know, maybe try to change things, instead of going with the unhealthy mentality ''Well, only currently winning plans count, and I dislike this plan more, so I'm going with the other one.''.
 
The creator of the prime plan explicitly advised alternatives instead of Prime: "Edit: VOTE FOR "Plan: "Signing up for office was a bad idea.""
It's a much better vote plan, and it would connect the previous quests tone to this quest muchbetter, it's no longer an Approval Vote, it's a Vote I like more then my current one, along with "Plan: Flesh of silver, heart of gold, soul of Skywalker." which is about C3PO."

Unfortunately the Tarkin vote is the main way to keep quest tone as long as Prime votes mean the two are tied.
 
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Ugolino said:
The creator of the prime plan explicitly advised alternatives:

"Edit: VOTE FOR "Plan: "Signing up for office was a bad idea.""
It's a much better vote plan, and it would connect the previous quests tone to this quest muchbetter, it's no longer an Approval Vote, it's a Vote I like more then my current one, along with "Plan: Flesh of silver, heart of gold, soul of Skywalker." which is about C3PO."
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This changes my statement, how? Then vote for those plans instead of sticking with and supporting Tarkin plan, which you dislike per your own words, don't support plans just because they currently in the lead, choose plan which you actually like.
 
Dlan the Wizard said:
This changes my statement, how? Then vote for those plans instead of sticking with and supporting Tarkin plan, which you dislike per your own words, don't support plans just because they currently in the lead, choose plan which you actually like.
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It makes it clear the plan is so flawed even its creator advises against it.

Tarkin is currently the only plan stopping a quest derail by Prime.
 
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Ugolino said:
Prime being tied singlehandedly makes jarTarkin the viable option *by default.*
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well I don't mind about either Tarkin candidate or the Prime Candidate being voted into the office of Chancellorship, but I have to ask are you the Quest master of this quest, cause by what your saying that makes Jartarkin the viable option in the tie between the two as if it is obvious.

If there is a tie which can be unlikely during the week then the Quest master is the only one that can decide on how to make a tie breaker, by either allowing one more vote to be put in between the two or that he will decide which plan is to be the winner.

And that Quest master is @Magoose and he hasn't decided if the Prime one is vetoed yet.
 
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Dlan the Wizard said:
This changes my statement, how? Then vote for those plans instead of sticking with and supporting Tarkin plan, which you dislike per your own words, don't support plans just because they currently in the lead, choose plan which you actually like.
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I think the frustration comes from the unlikeliness of the other less voted for options winning, made more likely by the fact that Prime and Tarkin are the two choices that keep getting votes. Since Prime does keep getting voted for, voting for another option isn't viewed a solution because it could surpass Tarkin, which while an option not liked is still preferred over Prime.

Though this all assumes that approval voting isn't allowed. As far as I can tell that's perfectly fine which means one can vote for multiple options simultaneously. @Ugolino if there is another option you prefer I would recommend you vote for it along with Tarkin thereby increasing its chances of winning without risking the success of Prime.
 
Joshsteel35#013 said:
well I don't mind about either Tarkin candidate or the Prime Candidate being voted into the office of Chancellorship, but I have to ask are you the Quester master of this quest, cause by what your saying that makes Jartarkin the viable option in the tie between the two as if it is obvious.

If there is a tie which can be unlikely during the week then the Quest master is the only one that can decide on how to make a tie breaker, by either allowing one more vote to be put in between the two or that he will decide which plan is to be the winner.

And that Quest master is @Magoose
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I'm looking at the vote tallies at this time. Prime voting is singehandedly making Tarkin look like a good choice by comparison- any other droid vote doesn't have its crippling issues.

Spart117MC said:
I think the frustration comes from the unlikeliness of the other less voted for options winning, made more likely by the fact that Prime and Tarkin are the two choices that keep getting votes. Since Prime does keep getting voted for, voting for another option isn't viewed a solution because it could surpass Tarkin, which while an option not liked is still preferred over Prime.

Though this all assumes that approval voting isn't allowed. As far as I can tell that's perfectly fine which means one can vote for multiple options simultaneously. @Ugolino if there is another option you prefer I would recommend you vote for it along with Tarkin thereby increasing its chances of winning without risking the success of Prime.
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Execellent point, I'll go back and effectively add later to make my voting basically "literally anything but prime".
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Magoose on Mar 8, 2025 at 8:17 PM, finished with 459 posts and 153 votes.
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I can't believe that the quest opening has again created so much discussion
 
Magoose said:
Adhoc vote count started by Magoose on Mar 8, 2025 at 8:17 PM, finished with 459 posts and 153 votes.
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I can't believe that the quest opening has again created so much discussion
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It's an engaging quest. The choices that we make have engaging and real consequences. We're changing history even if it's "fake history". That's why I like alternate history; it allows for a basis to build off of while allowing for so much creativity.

Edit: Also fuck Papatine, that's also why people like this quest.
 
@Ugolino the line that I quoted from what you said, is in my view that you assume your the QM. I don't mind of what you said as you seem to have good reasons, but please do not assume the role of a Quest master in this quest.
 
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[X]fish out of water
-[X]Vintyl Sanehar
-[X]What do you look like?[WIP](Idea is a human Senator whom prefers simpler outfits given being raised on a backwater like Lothal)
-[X]The Outside Bet: The Reluctant Contender

[X] Plan: "Signing up for office was a bad idea."

Gonna throw a vote in for the vulture droid.
 
To be honest, I'm a little off-put by Prime too. I'm all for having a droid be Supreme Chancellor but he's too distinctly a Transformer in my mind. It's difficult for me to actually view him as a droid, let alone a native to Star Wars. It's distracting enough that if the choice did end up between him and Tarkin, I might vote also for Tarkin despite my disdain of the man.
 
Okay, seeing how most people seem to dislike the winning plans and only vote for either of them due to disliking the other more, I have idea.

@Magoose can you please, disqualified Prime and Tarkin plans, so we can just vote in peace and stop this nonsense?
 
Spart117MC said:
To be honest, I'm a little off-put by Prime too. I'm all for having a droid be Supreme Chancellor but he's too distinctly a Transformer in my mind. It's difficult for me to actually view him as a droid, let alone a native to Star Wars. It's distracting enough that if the choice did end up between him and Tarkin, I might vote also for Tarkin despite my disdain of the man.
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Vulture droid vote then?

[X] Plan: "Signing up for office was a bad idea."
 
Dlan the Wizard said:
Okay, seeing how most people seem to dislike the winning plans and only vote for either of them due to disliking the other more, I have idea.

@Magoose can you please, disqualified Prime and Tarkin plans, so we can just vote in peace and stop this nonsense?
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Okay wow, this is going too far, there are people actually do like these two plans.

Yeah I don't like the Prime plan but I am not calling they be eliminated.

Edit: if the QM did not like these two plans he would have pull out long ago.
 
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How on earth is a plan involving a droid star fighter any less ridiculous than a blatant Transformers reference? At least Orion Pax could fit into his office and the senate chamber with little trouble!
 
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Dlan the Wizard said:
Okay, seeing how most people seem to dislike the winning plans and only vote for either of them due to disliking the other more, I have idea.

@Magoose can you please, disqualified Prime and Tarkin plans, so we can just vote in peace and stop this nonsense?
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No.

As with the jar jar vote that occurred last time, I will be making it make narrative sense so that it will continue to be entertaining and narratively.
 
And why is everyone complaining about the Prime plan when Tarkin is currently winning?

Honestly if people don't like the Prime Plan they could vote for C3P0 instead.
 
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