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STAR WARS: The Galactic Civil War

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Restestsest said:
Then, let's change that law. Add a clause where in times of war or rebellion, the galactic government can federalize sector and local militas to supplement federal forces. The US has something similar in how National Guard units can be federalized in times of war or major disturbances.
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There's also the problem that militias have no standard equipment so federalizing them wouldn't be as simple as sending them to the front, we would also have to train them on the use of standard GAR equipment.
 
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There is, however an advantage to having the militia exist. They serve as garrison forces that could defend against raids, and may even buy time should the CIS attack an unexpected angle. Buying time for more veteran forces to respond.

Besides, the bill to truly push the militia to be fully functional even in the outer rim, was blocked when Jar Jar tried to push it through.
 
If I remember correctly, Magoose told us that we shouldn't repeat laws (because he would give us maluses) but, given how circumstances have changed, we could try to push for the Military Organization Act again. Though, the Act had nothing about federalizing militias so we could legislate an entirely different act to permit it or we could just add.

@Magoose would we be allowed to present the Military Organization Act again without drawbacks?
 
Also, there's just a lot more *people* to call upon if all the various militias and planetary defense forces are tallied up (and potentially unified as part of system or even sector-level forces).
 
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    • Galactic Company of Heroes: Prologue
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    Wullf Yularen is in what is to be his office as the minister of Fleets as it is the same way as it was when Whilhuff Tarkin was the Minister of Fleets, though he would change the office somewhat when he has the chance.

    Right now he is sitting in the desk as he looks at the data pads that he has to write off and reports to check, to say that being the minister of Fleets would be something naive for anyone to take the position that he has today.

    He is looking at the Jedi generals that have come into mind, as he looks at each of the files of each Jedi that have participated the first Battle of Geonosis and the ones that are applying to be generals of the GAR.

    From what he reads of Anakin Skywalker's file, he has excellent scores in the Officers academy and for sure has proven himself on the first battle of the civil war. He honestly would like any senator who thinks that Jedi should not be involved in the military to say that to Anakin Skywalker's face and say it despite all evidence saying otherwise.

    While Anakin Skywalker may be the very first Jedi general of the current age ever since the new sith wars, the other Jedi are just simply applying to be generals as either having the skills to be generals or that they haven't proven themselves.

    He has read the file as to how Ahsoka Tano managed to get herself into the position as Deputy commander of the 4th army. Though the only criticism he would give her is that she is to young to be in the military, he honestly hopes that with Anakin Skywalker's presence as her master she would be tempered from doing reckless actions.

    The next data pad file contains General Quinlan Vos and his Deputy commander Aayla secura of the 7th army, they may be competent but from what he has seen on news and read the reports on the latest assasination attempt on Chancellor Jar Jar Binks before his retirement. They are more knowledgeable in espionage and are more for commando operations rather than the army.

    He puts their file on the basket named " consideration " as he is going to sort all the Jedi generals into three baskets.

    The Blue one has the name " proven" were a Jedi general has proven their skill as a general and has shown evidence that they know what they are doing, primary example would be Anakin Skywalker.

    The Green Basket is "consideration" where Jedi generals have the potential to become generals and have seen action and proven so far they can be generals if given the chance, though should be considered to be put in other roles for their skill sets

    The Red Basket is " reassigned" for generals that have not only proven that they are incompetent but also have no skill in leading men in times of war, and that they should be reassigned immediately as soon as possible. He had only some data pad files placed there as those Jedi generals have only proven that they caused more casualties during the first battle of geonosis.

    And this is not only focused on Jedi alone as this is focused on all military personnel of all backgrounds, especially for those that participated in the war against Piracy.

    Oh he remembered the time when before the civil war, the untested star fighters were the first of their kind to have hyperdrives installed in them, and how much effective they can be when used properly can be a great advantage especially for raids against CIS military assets or for deep raids inside enemy territory. You can essentially have a fighter squadron raid inside the enemy territory and cause some damage before retreating, he is considering doing some updates to that tactic on a military scale since the war has started.

    Now as he looks through the data pad files he sees a file that has interest him, an officer by the name of Akashi, a Rodian officer of his military unit, one of the participants of the Piracy war and has proven his worth in leadership. He has a decent military education to graduate to the officer corps, and he has gained experience during his line of duty when it is needed.

    He has read some notes by higher ranking officers in this file, that they see him as a potential general and that he has learned and is learning from his past mistakes from his time as an officer when he is still new.

    Even some of the officers have vouched for him to not be expelled from the military when Whilhuff Tarkin was still the Minister of Fleets. It seems that Chancellor Binks has started to influence the now Chancellor Tarkin after the military campaign against piracy.

    While at the time Whilhuff Tarkin has only considered not expelling the officer due to the recommendations and vouchers from other higher ranking officers, he can see that given enough time Akashi could be a Republican hero.

    After all, besides the Jedi there will be a great need for heroes that aren't Jedi. For the Age of Jedi generals and heroes is over, as now it is the time for the common citizen to take up arms and take the place of Jedi heroes to be that legend of old.

    He places Akashi's data pad file in the Consideration basket, he feels that if Akashi were to be under someone else's command then he could truly shine and show his potential.

    Perhaps he could assign Akashi as an officer under the high commanding officer or commander of one of the divisions of the 4th army under the command of General Skywalker and Deputy Commander Tano. He has a gut feeling that those two would do very interesting things during the civil war, and they might just provide the experience that Akashi needs to rise through the ranks to be a general himself.

    Though only time will tell in this Civil war.

    ( alright, here is the first omake in this quest part of an Omake series called " Galactic Company of Heroes"

    I've started the Omake series during the prequel quest and now I will have the prologue started in this quest, by having Akashi be assigned to any of the divisions of the 4th army as an officer under the commander of a higher ranking officer)
     
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    • Themarineguy said:
    There is, however an advantage to having the militia exist. They serve as garrison forces that could defend against raids, and may even buy time should the CIS attack an unexpected angle. Buying time for more veteran forces to respond.

    Besides, the bill to truly push the militia to be fully functional even in the outer rim, was blocked when Jar Jar tried to push it through.
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    I concurr. We're asking militias to provide manpower to the Republic Army, not subsuming the organizations themselves directly. The militias are better served holding ground where they stand, where a defensive posture can compensate for deficiencies in training and discipline. They'll be needed to hold the line and form stay-behind units while we mobilize the army to push the Confederacy back.

    Edit: The Republic is still rather decentralized and we will likely still face pushback. We may have to hold off on federalizing them until a situation arises where the militia form of organization becomes demonstrably untenable, such as conflicts in the chain of command precipitating disasters or disorganized rabble harassing civilians or routing at inopportune moments.
     
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    Lazor said:
    I concurr. We're asking militias to provide manpower to the Republic Army, not subsuming the organizations themselves directly. The militias are better served holding ground where they stand, where a defensive posture can compensate for deficiencies in training and discipline. They'll be needed to hold the line and form stay-behind units while we mobilize the army to push the Confederacy back.
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    And equipment. The ability for Rim Worlds to have militia at all was very much helped by the militia act which was passed. It's just, equipment and training is likely reliant on the wealth of the specific world for the most part. Which was the whole point of the failed second bill.
     
    [X]Getting our house in order

    Also, @Magoose that was a heck of an update! I'm sorry you had to write it furious, but just know that at least one person was grinning ear-to-ear after a rough day reading that!
     
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    [X]Plan: Initial Mobilization
    -[X]My Loyalty is to the Republic: You need to assuage the People of the Republic. They do not think a Military Man is capable of leading the republic. They do not trust you. DC: ???
    -[X]A War Budget: Jensen needs to lead the Government and ask simple questions. What can we spend, what can we tax, and what can we burrow? DC: 0/???
    -[X]A Machine with a Heart: Pax is… simple. He merely wishes to exercise his power to get you what you need. And also what he needs is a wish to make simple things happen. He wants your trust with that. DC: 45
    -[X]War Production: You need to know what the Shipyards of Corellia, and Kuat need to get their systems up to full capacity. DC: ???
    -[X]Calling up the Militias and Volunteers: While the Grand Army of the Republic has been and will be the main instrument for waging this war, their numbers can be… augmented. Chancellor Binks's first law allowed a galactic militia to be formed, with planetary defense fleets and organized militias. Perhaps you can form another army. DC: 30/60/???
    -[X]Securing Chancellor Binks: The Chancellor is retired to Naboo, but his guard is only the volunteers who did not join the war effort, and the Gungan security team given to him by the Bosses. That is inefficient. DC: 30
    -[X]Securing the Homefront: With Isard Gone, his measures might have laxed with the oncoming Minister of Intelligence. You are going to ask Padme to update them and find a way to keep them at their best. DC: 40
    -[X]The War: You Need to focus on the War. (Begin a War Turn)
     
    Themarineguy said:
    And equipment. The ability for Rim Worlds to have militia at all was very much helped by the militia act which was passed. It's just, equipment and training is likely reliant on the wealth of the specific world for the most part. Which was the whole point of the failed second bill.
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    hmm.. perhpahs a benficial arangement? A allocation of funds to aquire modern and standardized equipment for the millita, along with paying for training for that equipment. but the millita/world must agree to be intergrated into the federal structure. standardized ranks and requierments for those ranks, procedures to slot them into any galactic army arriving to help them defend, well defined ways for millita members to transpher to the galactic army by their own choice. maybe even ways for planets to back out and detach their milita from the federal structure, provided they have the funds to buy the equipment will be takeing with them when they do.

    Millita of smaller worlds get funded by the Republic, but must meet the standards and structure of the galactic army, and are local reserves of the galactic army (that can't be moved off world without the permision of that world). closest equivlent would be building a Local Millitary base?
     
    If we are going to enlist volunteers from the militias then we should at least have them be put in defensive positions so that way we can hold onto some ground. They are more likely experienced in defending rather then attacking planets.
     
    I am going to avoid voting but I wish to give my thoughts in the matter.

    The scale this war will be fought has been unheard across the Republic for one thousand years. Sure there were some wars here and there but nothing on this scale in modern history. After all read about ancient galactic wars is one things, living in one is quite another.

    Military the Republic is ready but the people are another matter entirety.

    I imagine most people expect the war being over very soon after a few months with the Separatists defeated and the Republic victories, this is not going to happen anytime soon.

    Propaganda is going to play a important role here to keep the people motivated but they sure as heck will not be ready for the heavy burden the war will have on they lives so we should go easy on the people for now.

    We should also consider the effects of the Outer Rim secession cause to the Republic, I think the QM once mention they were the breadbasket of the Republic in the previous Quest?

    Either way sooner or later the Republic will feel this loss, so I think in the earlier stages the Republic should focus in looking for ways to diminish the loss of the Outer Rim have on the wide galaxy, either by securing critical worlds or take them from the Separatist Alliance.

    Also another important factor some worlds may refuse to join the war effort and try to play neutral, so we should be on look out from signs of that.
     
    Another factor is, the galaxy is so huge, that the actual armies are gonna end up as small players in the big war. I expect that much like OTL, most of the fighting will end up involving militia from the sheer scale of the battlefield and the relative size of the actual professional forces. I mean, we canonically know that Palps has roughly canon numbers of droids after his grand legion of clankers torn into each other in a revolt. And while we have an actual army, we also have shut the tap on 'clone recruits' when Jar Jar discovered the force's existence around the time the Grand Army was formed last quest. A fact that may actually be amplified thanks to the militia bill that did get passed early in quest.
     
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    State of the Galaxy (Turn 1) New
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    • State of the Galaxy (Turn 1)

    Senate Cohesion: [Disbanded] [Every Man for Himself] [Divided Senate] [Usual Gridlock] [Senatorial Consensus] [Regional Unity] [United Bloc] [The Voice of the Galaxy] [The Alliance]

    Intelligence:[Banite Lacky] [Compromised] [Nonexistent][Counter-espionage security][Rudimentary Espionage] [Security Clearance 1][The Spymaster][Republic Security Apparatus][The Light In a Void]

    Jedi Order: [Extinct][The Dark Times] [Fallen Order][Broken Saber][Damaged Prestige] [Light of the Order] [Guardian of Peace and Justice]

    Economy: [Bombed Out Ruin][Great Depression] [Recession] [Stable][Growth][Fast Growth] [Economic Boom] [Economic Miracle]

    Criminal: [Legalized Crime Syndicate] [Disruptive Forces] [Cash and Cartels] [A Manageable Problem][Sector Crackdowns] [Regional Anomaly] [Clean Lanes Clean Streets]

    Rim Stability: [Wars and Warlords] [Active Civil Conflicts] [Growing Unrest] [Factional Divides] [The Usual Suspects] [Stable-ish] [Peace] [Harmony]
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    Recruitment

    Clone Units: [Inhumane Experiments] [Reduced Production] [Genetic Alterations for Increased Numbers] [Lowered Standards] [Stable] [Elite] [Reflections of Jango] [Beyond Human] [Super Soldiers]

    Volunteer Units:     [Mass Desertions] [Conscription Riots] [Draft Resistance] [Reluctant Conscription] [Stable Enlistment] [Patriotic Enlistment] [Mobilization for Survival] [Rally to the Cause] [Crusade for the Republic]

    Supply & Logistics Levels:

    Core Worlds & Inner Rim:

    [Total Collapse] [Severe Shortages] [Disruptions & Delays] [Strained Supply Lines] [Stable Distribution] [Efficient Logistics] [Surplus Stockpiles] [Overflowing Warehouses] [A Republic of Plenty]


    Mid Rim:

    [Widespread Starvation] [Critical Deficits] [Patchwork Resupply] [Inconsistent Deliveries] [Maintained Supply Chains] [Resilient Logistics] [Strong Reserves] [Well-Supplied Forces] [A Breadbasket of War]

    Outer Rim:

    [Utter Deprivation] [Running on Scraps] [Supply Convoys Lost] [Barely Sustained] [Fractured Logistics] [Adaptive Supply Lines] [Steady Shipments] [Secured Supply Hubs] [Logistical Mastery]


    Popular Support for the War

    Core Worlds:

    [Total Rebellion] [Mass Protests] [Growing Unrest] [War Fatigue] [Stable Backing] [Patriotic Resolve] [Rallying Behind the Cause] [United for Victory] [A War of Destiny]


    Mid Rim:

    [Separatist Sympathies] [Riots & Resistance] [Fractured Allegiances] [Divided Loyalties] [Cautious Endorsement] [Defiant Commitment] [Rising Nationalism] [A People's Crusade] [A War for the Republic]


    Outer Rim:

    [Widespread Defiance] [Open Dissent] [Resentful Compliance] [Reluctant Participation] [Holding the Line] [Defensive Solidarity] [Determined Resistance] [A Call to Arms] [A War of Liberation]
     
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    • Alright good to know, so we have everything of the state of the galaxy back to the middle part of our quest, assuming that the bonuses that we have from the prequel quest are of no effect due to chancellor Binks stepping down along with a civil war.

    And now we need to ensure that we have logistics levels and we need to maintain popular support for the war.
     
    Joshsteel35#013 said:
    Alright good to know, so we have everything of the state of the galaxy back to the middle part of our quest, assuming that the bonuses that we have from the prequel quest are of no effect due to chancellor Binks stepping down along with a civil war.
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    New Government, with a war on... would have been a little bit better with Jar Jar in charge but hey, thats how it goes.

    Again, Jar Jar stepping down is a blessing to... but that will come later.

    But know this... The army and the Navy are indeed maxed out, you just have to worry about other things, like logistics.
     
    Thank you for giving us the information to make an informed decision on our votes @Magoose

    Edit: By the way guys, do ant of you want to have clone troopers as super soldiers?

    Edit 2: what I'm most concerned about is the Rim stability, I have a feeling that if we allow the rim stability to fall into the deep negative then it will literally affect our war effort against the CIS
     
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    Magoose said:
    New Government, with a war on... would have been a little bit better with Jar Jar in charge but hey, thats how it goes.

    Again, Jar Jar stepping down is a blessing to... but that will come later.
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    A healthy democracy is more than just one being. If everything depended on the Leviathan of Jar Jar, than all we have achieved would have been for nothing.

    Passing the torch and sustaining the fires of reform and civic duty, because of it, not in spite of it, is just as important a trial as the war.
     
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