STAR WARS: The Galactic Civil War

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Plan, robots ,french resistance & pacifism

Lets have some fun (san tarkin cause he should be vice-chancellor)

[X] The Prime Choice

[X] Liberator of Ryloth, Liberator of the Republic

[X] War of Liberation

[X] Plan: "Signing up for office was a bad idea."

[X]Plan: Mand'alor of the Republic
 
The thread, and the senate (and therefore the Republic) voted for Droid liberation. This wasn't some odd backdoor, oh we've discovered droids are sentient, guess we have to give them the right to vote. It was a deliberate choice. You've consistently advocate for conservative humans to run the Republic, you're trying to frame this in terms of what the Republic might vote for. But really it's just excuses for your own prejudices.

Wtf?

Dude this is a popular vote from the people, it was the Senate that ratify laws such choice not the people there.

There is such thing call normalization, yeah Iike one or two might end up as a Senator and that make sense.

How in the the world one of them, I repeat a few years ago they were not even considerate people, be a Supreme Chancellor candidate.

Go ahead pick a non-himan because that make even more sense than a freaking droid because I don't think it sink in to most people droids are now people.

So stop calling me a racist.
 
[X] The Prime Choice

[X] Liberator of Ryloth, Liberator of the Republic

[X] Plan: "Signing up for office was a bad idea."

[X]Plan: Mand'alor of the Republic
 
I still find it odd droids are even valid choice, a few years ago they were not even consider people.

Like I get if was a couple of decades like 50 or 60 years since by that time it would sink in the idea of droids are even people to the public in general.

Now it was only what, 5 years or something?

Where is the sense in that?

Not to mention I pretty sure people are only voting on the Prime Choice because that one is a blatant carbon copy of Optimus Prime and I hate that.
Most people in the Galactic society, do still see Droids as objects.
Most droids... currently, aren't considered sentients under thedefinition that placed onto the galaxy.

we have changed the definition politically.

But not socially... and that might be a problem we have to deal with.
That doesn't change the fact, that they still legally citizens, law says one thing, societal and cultural-born prejudice and speciesm says another but law is above the latter.

If you need explanation: Perhaps among higher social classes, due to influence of Jar Jar, Droid personhood started becoming popular idea, if only to appear progressive. In turn, planetary nobility and rich indirectly influenced public perception in the campaign or Pro-Droid Senators did. Perhaps it was dumb luck-for example, no one noticed that candidates were Droids due to sheer disbelief. Perhaps they won as a joke, in real-life, people made political parties as a joke and people still voted for them, perhaps this is similar situation with the idea of Droid Supreme Chancellor being so amusing that in twist of irony, it become the most popular option for people to vote and won.

Either way, legally, Droids are people, legally they citizens and become Senators and Supreme Chancellor, even if in public perception they still objects and discriminated against, law allows them to accomplish Chancellorship so stroke of luck is all Droid candidate needs and this is all the explanation we need as the quest participants. Jar Jar Binks was also unbelievable and in-universe he didn't even start his own campaign, people just voted for him.

Also, in all respect to my boi Tarkin, he is the boring choice and Droid Chancellor perfectly encapsulates the changes and hope, Binks brought for the Galactic Republic and Galactic civilization as a whole, so even if extremely unbelievable, it's thematically good.

Also, personally I don't like expies either and I prefer Venari or C-3PO, but Droid Chancellor is Droid Chancellor for me.
 
Go ahead pick a non-himan because that make even more sense than a freaking droid because I don't think it sink in to most people droids are now people.

So stop calling me a racist.
You've been insistent that non-human candidates aren't viable, for some reason.

Tarkin may been winning, but I don't think it's because he's a human and other candidates are non-human.
 
The thread, and the senate (and therefore the Republic) voted for Droid liberation. This wasn't some odd backdoor, oh we've discovered droids are sentient, guess we have to give them the right to vote. It was a deliberate choice. You've consistently advocated for conservative humans to run the Republic, you're trying to frame this in terms of what the Republic might vote for. But really it's just excuses for your own prejudices.
Also, funnily enough. The USA South reconstruction era had a lot of previously second class/'below humans' get into office positions, and it only really stopped and 'stuck' because the fierce traditionalists were ready to not only rig elections, but bring out terror tactics to ensure so.

So, it has basis for happening, especially given the popularity of Jar Jar, the guy whom pushed for it, and the new voter base forming around droids as well.
 
You've been insistent that non-human candidates aren't viable, for some reason.

Tarkin may been winning, but I don't think it's because he's a human and other candidates are non-human.

No I am not, stop saying that.

None of the options are non-humans, you are more than welcome to create one btw. I just saying it is odd for droids are available as options, when most people in the galaxy don't even see them as people, you knwo the guys that will vote for Supreme Chancellor.

That doesn't change the fact, that they still legally citizens, law says one thing, societal and cultural-born prejudice and speciesm says another but law is above the latter.

If you need explanation: Perhaps among higher social classes, due to influence of Jar Jar, Droid personhood started becoming popular idea, if only to appear progressive. In turn, planetary nobility and rich indirectly influenced public perception in the campaign or Pro-Droid Senators did. Perhaps it was dumb luck-for example, no one noticed that candidates were Droids due to sheer disbelief. Perhaps they won as a joke, in real-life, people made political parties as a joke and people still voted for them, perhaps this is similar situation with the idea of Droid Supreme Chancellor being so amusing that in twist of irony, it become the most popular option for people to vote and won.

Either way, legally, Droids are people, legally they citizens and become Senators and Supreme Chancellor, even if in public perception they still objects and discriminated against, law allows them to accomplish Chancellorship so stroke of luck is all Droid candidate needs and this is all the explanation we need as the quest participants. Jar Jar Binks was also unbelievable and in-universe he didn't even start his own campaign, people just voted for him.

Also, in all respect to my boi Tarkin, he is the boring choice and Droid Chancellor perfectly encapsulates the changes and hope, Binks brought for the Galactic Republic and Galactic civilization as a whole, so even if extremely unbelievable, it's thematically good.

Also, personally I don't like expies either and I prefer Venari or C-3PO, but Droid Chancellor is Droid Chancellor for me.

I still find it weird people would do joke votes in wartime but I get some would do that.

I very much still find it weird a droid could even won or much less be a candidate.

If people want to capsule a hope of feeling write Togruta or another alien as a candidate for Supreme Chancellor or something.

Droids by the vastly majority of the people that will vote, still not are seeing as people. Unless suddenly a good portion of all the voters don't even realize they are voting for a droid or find it funny to vote for him in wartime.

This would be such a Deus Ex Machima that would not be funny.

Also yeah I much prefer the Guardian for the Republic was winning instead of Tarkin but it is what it is.
 
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DROID LIBERATION!!!!

How can the republic say all of its citizens are free and equal if some of its citizens are left behind?!?!?! How can we say that we are any better than the Separatists, who might I remind you ARE USING DRIODS AS SLAVES, if we can't even dignify a Droid Chancellor?

This is a new dawn for the Republic and we shall leave NO ONE behind!

Long live the Republic! Long live Liberty! A DROID FOR CHANCELLOR!!!!

Vote For a Droid!

Edit: droid/robot plans here

[ ] The Prime Choice
[ ] War of Liberation
[ ] Plan: "Signing up for office was a bad idea."
 
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How long ago has it been since the point in the other quest where we caused palp's army to enter a stage of civil war over a droid civil rights bill? It has been at least a few years since, and ironically, the least informed is likely the rim, given that the non-rim worlds used a lot of droids. Whom are now also eligible voters.
 
Remember in the previous quest how Jar Jar Binks was voted into office, if Tarkin was not voted into office do you think that history will repeat itself?

This kind of stuff don't happen in quick succession and different from that time, people are voting in wartime.

Not time to even joke candidate or such.

Also Senate cleary is expecting someone to lead the war effort and not be a puppet as well.
 
Sure, most folks saw droids as property before Jar-Jar emancipated them, but I like to imagine they saw Venari, a Vulture Droid, one who was an ex-seppie and has VERY vested interest in NOT losing the Seperatists, in addition to sympathizing with their story.

Slavery is rampant in Star Wars, and it was only a few years ago that the Republic recognized Droids as sentients, I could see many Droids, freed slaves and even a lot of organics seeing Venari's plight and deciding that she would have a personal reason to give her all in saving the Republic
 
Sure, most folks saw droids as property before Jar-Jar emancipated them, but I like to imagine they saw Venari, a Vulture Droid, one who was an ex-seppie and has VERY vested interest in NOT losing the Seperatists, in addition to sympathizing with their story.

Slavery is rampant in Star Wars, and it was only a few years ago that the Republic recognized Droids as sentients, I could see many Droids, freed slaves and even a lot of organics seeing Venari's plight and deciding that she would have a personal reason to give her all in saving the Republic

You do realize a Vulture Droid has a very basic intelligence?

A B1 is more smarter than them.

Also just because the law say one thing does not mean socially and culturally they are equal, case contrary racism would not exist.
 
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Well either way, I'm more interested in oc chancellors more then cannon characters being chancellors, as the reason I like Jar Jar was because he is like an unexpected contender that won the chancellorship, and that he is much more competent in politics then his cannon version, so I honestly don't mind if Tarkin were to win the chancellorship as it should be interesting either way.
 
You do realize a Vulture Droid has a very basic intelligence?

A B1 is more smarter than them.

Things can change, this is an AU, maybe the Confederacy made their Vulture Droids smarter, maybe they were always smart and they were intentionally kept dumb as a means of control, maybe Venari was able to get an upgrade as well as removing her restraining bolt.

It's an AU where Jar-Jar got voted in and became the best chancellor of the century, canon died a slow and painful death and I'm all for it
 
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