Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
- Location
- Coleraine
She is already Deputy Minister of Public Wellbing, it not to much of strech to imagine she might get promoted.
Plus, nobody knows about our realtionship.
After the Ashes: A Fire Nation Chancellor Quest
- Thread starter Granite
- Start date
- Fantasy
She is already Deputy Minister of Public Wellbing, it not to much of strech to imagine she might get promoted.
Plus, nobody knows about our realtionship.
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She has a position already.
She's the deputy minister of well being. Casually giving her some tips on how to navigate Zuko's moods once our MC is more familiar with him should be enough to allow her to talk and earn her way to a promotion.
Depending on who gets fired then she might just be terribly unsuited for the role.
Our relationship gets a lot harder to hide if we become regular coworkers.
Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
- Location
- Coleraine
Well, she probably knows a lot about Colonial Affiars becuase of us.
While I do agree Aikawa's race science garbage will be a problem and that Phrenologic nonsense is the last thing that Azula needs to hear, I think he's actually the least dangerous of the 3 options to keep on. He's not particularly violent or domineering, so I think we can wait to remove him until it would no longer make Zuko look weak.
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Well we certain won't do it if we don't try.
Besides, look at fool. Clearly an easy mark for convincing he's indispensable and getting to go along with our whims.
Plus, do you really have more faith in the thread to manage a conversion from war industry and economy to peace industry and economy with him dumping a crate full of wrenches into the works? We picked the socialite. Managing self important officials is our specialty. Industrial reform with a handicap is distinctly not.
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He's also the least beneficial. Remember we are the socialite. We specialize in winning people over and getting them to support us. It's the entire reason we are here. Getting rid of him at worst makes the royal family look weak, which can be undone later, and gives us a chance to pull the industrialist into our sphere of influence.
Ultimately I'm fine if he doesn't win, but my main thing is avoiding the very detrimental outcome of the industrialist becoming an obstacle we aren't in a position to win over.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
I mean, at the very least they'd revere the Sun considering how integral it is to Firebending.
"You rise with the Moon. I rise with the Sun."
And the fact that the solar eclipse flat out shuts down any and all firebending along with the Great/Sozin's Comet amplifying their power.
Honestly I can see Astronomy being a favored science amoung even the more 'primitive' firebenders
IE ambition and drive is inherent to the Children of Fire and the Fire Lord is the guy with the ban hammer whacking them whenever they act stupid/overreach.
I imagine a lot of formerly 'safe' things became dangerous under Ozai's reign.
Azula helped. Not something you can normally say.
That is most certainly one thing Zuko never lacked.
We the readers know that, but the Fire Nation has no idea when he (and some other high ranking individuals from the FN to boot) joined this secret organization with (mostly) unknown goals and intentions (other than siding with the Avatar and acting against the Fire Nation).
[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
Nobody is going to be able to get anything done with those two gumming up the works.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
While I can understand the appeal for Shu in order to prep the economy, considering the sheer level of influence Amari has over the military we need him on board.
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Please check the situation list. Amari is green. This is the guy that taught Iroh, and we picked the socialite who specializes in winning people over. Going for him later to get him to back Iroh's protege isn't going to be difficult. Zuko is after all a warrior at heart. The minster of finance is going to be a tougher nut to crack if we don't take her now, since she is likely a shrewd negotiator. The military has no major issues in need of fixing, while the economy has as many as the rest of the ministries combined.
Brainbow
Jamais vu
[X] Lord Yanase took that opportunity to press his case again, once more attempting to emphasize the importance of having a true son of the Fire Nation in the role of the chancellery, only to find himself promptly dismissed by the thoroughly annoyed teenager. The man didn't seem to believe it at first, laughing as though it was a joke, though the imperial firebenders made it evident enough that the boy-king most certainly had not been speaking in jest. While the man's removal might allow for some degree of reform within one of the largest ministries in the country, it also pits the most powerful industrialist in the nation against the throne.
[X] Minister Shu lingered in the room, casting an appraising eye over the young chancellor before seeming to sigh, approaching her with obvious reticence. While she was not thrilled by the direction things seemed to be heading, the woman was quite motivated to ensure that they were on the same page when it came to the economic realities of peace.
[X] Minister Shu lingered in the room, casting an appraising eye over the young chancellor before seeming to sigh, approaching her with obvious reticence. While she was not thrilled by the direction things seemed to be heading, the woman was quite motivated to ensure that they were on the same page when it came to the economic realities of peace.
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
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- He/Him/His
Getting the military onside is also helpful to putting down Yamaha's paramilitary, if we're alienating him. So I think your choices synergize nicely, and will be voting them:
[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
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[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
- Location
- Coleraine
Isn't this meant to be the Ministry of Public Wellfare?
Shouldn't it be Transition not Tradition?
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[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
- Location
- the Philippines
[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
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- They/Them
[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
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Again, the economy has the most problems and the military the least, and the military is inherently loyal to the fire lord by design, and Amari is an easy win over later by our socialite MC. With Shu on our side from the get go we are half way to start solving half the fire nations most severe problems.
The national military usually doesn't need much incentive to oppose paramilitary, do to the cushier life style and better postings the latter usually occupies.
The national military usually doesn't need much incentive to oppose paramilitary, do to the cushier life style and better postings the latter usually occupies.
- Location
- Watchung,New Jersey
[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
- Location
- Your pantry
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- He/Him
[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
- Location
- Who knows?
[X] Minister Qin had paused for a moment as he went to leave, looking as though he was trying desperately to remember something important that had slipped his mind. After a moment of concentration, the man paled and began speed walking towards the courtyard in a close but not ultimately imperfect approximation of a dignified pace
Regardless of everything else I'd say it's vitally important to make sure no one grabs Azula as a easy, ready made pretender to fight for. Like the Fire Nation has generations of indoctrination saying they serve the Fire Lord. So even the angriest and most discontent are gonna find issues rallying people to fight when the answer to "so who do we serve instead" is "uh who knows."
That changes if they have convient rightful Fire Lord Azula to rally behind. I mean sure maybe we get some false Dimtrys, but this still seems like the most immediate, we need to resolve this in the next few hours, issue.
Regardless of everything else I'd say it's vitally important to make sure no one grabs Azula as a easy, ready made pretender to fight for. Like the Fire Nation has generations of indoctrination saying they serve the Fire Lord. So even the angriest and most discontent are gonna find issues rallying people to fight when the answer to "so who do we serve instead" is "uh who knows."
That changes if they have convient rightful Fire Lord Azula to rally behind. I mean sure maybe we get some false Dimtrys, but this still seems like the most immediate, we need to resolve this in the next few hours, issue.
- Location
- Arizona, United States
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- She/Her
You've not dealt with him directly as the modernist movement was largely a splinter from the more mainline national societies that has since grown into its own thing. What you know of him isn't very good though; he's a fairly violent man and there was talk for some time about handing policing in the Old Colonies over to the paramilitaries, though ultimately, Ozai opted to avoid that obvious civil war and instead opted to deploy elements of them to the New Territories instead. The organizations themselves are typically built up around a core of veterans and typically deploy as ultranationalist fighting groups: young men sign up with the army, do a term or two, and then return to the societies and continue in their prior work on the homefront. You can expect that he'd likely cause trouble: firefolk are proud and they aren't likely to take an insult lying down, especially if they see themselves as the only thing stopping the dismantlement of their nation.
I would gently advise against this line of thought: Karugus did an excellent job breaking down the specifics, but the loyalty of the military is going to be extremely strained going through this. You'll have hundreds of thousands of men losing their jobs and being denied promised land, loot, and advancement, only to return home to a nation that was, in their eyes, just humiliated and humbled by a child king in league with the nation's enemies. The economic situation will absolutely effect how bad things get but you should not be relying on the loyalty of the military as a given right now as, in their eyes, the throne has no loyalty to them.
Beyond that, not everything in green is necessarily good for you: Amari is a central figure in the military, an experienced and well-respected general who holds the faith of the war council. He is a major unifying and stabilizing force in the military and has kept the cliques balanced for a very long time. He's also entering his late eighties, struggling with the accompanying health issues, and has been trapped in something of a persistent melancholy over the last several years :/
Should be Public Wellbeing! Thanks for catching that, it's corrected now
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
[X] Lord and Lady Yamaha reacted poorly to the news that a 'half-breed' would be taking the helm, both of them erupting with anger and shouting invectives. The Fire Lord, suitably incensed by the situation, shouted them down in kind before finally ordering them tossed out of the palace by the Royal Procession, the married couple having to be hauled out of the council chambers by the masked firebenders as they hurled abuse at the new sovereign. While their removal from the council meetings will certainly make things calmer, Namiko can't help but be concerned about what they'll get up to outside of it…
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
Secure the military's loyalty (at least as much as we can) so we can hopefully make use of them to purge the paramilitaries of the guys we're tossing directly out of power.
[X] Minister Amari remained in his chair, the ancient general seemingly struck by a bout of tiredness as he gazed about the room almost morosely. If she hadn't known any better, the man would have almost appeared lost, the once venerable colossus of war reduced to a relic of an age since passed, one that had endured beyond the things that gave it purpose.
Secure the military's loyalty (at least as much as we can) so we can hopefully make use of them to purge the paramilitaries of the guys we're tossing directly out of power.
- Location
- California
A good reminder that we have many different types of sewage flying at the rotating temperature control device. The way I see it, the three bottom options are about giving us a leg-up in handling one of these issues and we need to pick the ones we consider the most valuable. The military, the economy, with Qin acting as the wild-card mystery box.
I'm still going with economy because that is going to have to be the cornerstone of Zuko's reforms (can't extract wealth from an empire you no longer have), and the Finance Minister will likely be at least somewhat amenable to whatever we do provided we stop the runaway hyperinflation Ozai instituted. However, I'm perfectly happy with all three winning.
