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Terminus Quest: A CKII Mass Effect Quest

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    Options, again:

    [ ] Plan [NAME]
    -[ ] Inform the Alliance?
    --[ ] No. It is better to report a problem solved than one you need help with.
    --[ ] Yes. They're impacted by this, and you're a formal member now. This is no longer the time to hold back.
    -[ ] Call for the Terminus Joint Fleets?
    --[ ] No. This isn't the kind of battle they train to fight, and you have yet to thresh out a joint command structure. There are also the obvious political reasons not to call for help on this particular issue.
    --[ ] Yes. You are going to be seriously pressed resolving this yourself, and even then it could get bloody. You want mass.
    -[ ] Who reinforces Maroon Sea? Check all that apply.
    --[ ] 1st Battle Fleet. You need firepower, you need it now.
    --[ ] 1st Raiding Fleet. They will (in part) get there fastest.
    --[ ] 2nd Raiding Fleet. They're not in a frontline system.
    --[ ] 3rd Raiding Fleet. They're not in a frontline system, and Mordin is one of your greats.
    -[ ] Who holds Attican Beta? Check all that apply.
    --[ ] 1st Battle Fleet. It's their AO and you don't know that another assault isn't coming.
    --[ ] 1st Raiding Fleet. It's not their job, but they're present and can (in part) stand up immediately.
    --[ ] 2nd Raiding Fleet. To be blunt, they offer the least to the actual, ongoing fight in Maroon Sea.
    --[ ] 3rd Raiding Fleet. You trust Mordin to buy time if he needs to.

    Proposed write-ins that I noticed:

    ---[ ] Ask for a battlefleet to be deployed into Attican Beta to take over defense posts from Mordin Sentra - hopefully, that'd allow to avoid issues with chain of command.

    As a subvote to calling for TJF assistance.

    ---[ ] Upon insertion, the fleet is to assume raiding duties.

    As a subvote containing specific orders for raiding fleets tasked to Maroon Sea.

    ---[ ] Both battle fleets are to conduct withdrawal through the Relay to Attican Beta once insertion of raiding fleets is done.

    As a subvote containing specific orders for battle fleets tasked to Maroon Sea.

    Have fun!
     
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    • [X] Plan Mobile Defense
    -[X] Inform the Alliance?
    --[X] Yes. They're impacted by this, and you're a formal member now. This is no longer the time to hold back.
    -[X] Call for the Terminus Joint Fleets?
    --[X] No. This isn't the kind of battle they train to fight, and you have yet to thresh out a joint command structure. There are also the obvious political reasons not to call for help on this particular issue.
    -[X] Who reinforces Maroon Sea? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 1st Raiding Fleet. They will (in part) get there fastest.
    --[X] 2nd Raiding Fleet. They're not in a frontline system.
    --[X] 3rd Raiding Fleet. They're not in a frontline system, and Mordin is one of your greats.
    -[X] Who holds Attican Beta? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 1st Battle Fleet. It's their AO and you don't know that another assault isn't coming.

    This plan sets us up for a drawn out battle in maroon sea with about 2 raiding fleets worth ships in the short term and 3 in the medium term. It's a battle we'll win but it might be more costly do to fewer dreadnoughts to make the most of the range advantage to deal damage. Dreadnought losses more likely do to 17:6 ratio in their favor.

    [X] Plan Concentration of Force
    -[X] Inform the Alliance?
    --[X] Yes. They're impacted by this, and you're a formal member now. This is no longer the time to hold back.
    -[X] Call for the Terminus Joint Fleets?
    --[X] No. This isn't the kind of battle they train to fight, and you have yet to thresh out a joint command structure. There are also the obvious political reasons not to call for help on this particular issue.
    -[X] Who reinforces Maroon Sea? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 1st Battle Fleet. You need firepower, you need it now.
    --[X] 1st Raiding Fleet. They will (in part) get there fastest.
    -[X] Who holds Attican Beta? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 2nd Raiding Fleet. To be blunt, they offer the least to the actual, ongoing fight in Maroon Sea.
    --[X] 3rd Raiding Fleet. You trust Mordin to buy time if he needs to.

    Plan uses Fast reinforcements to maroon sea with plenty of dreadnought and battle cruisers to bring a lot of guns to bear in a short time to start dealing significant damage to Rachni fleets early, before the 2nd battle fleet can sustain much damage. Between stationary defense at the relay and two raiding fleets, we would have sufficient concentration of force to defend Attican Beta in the unlikely event of an attack(we are still less of a presence on the Rachni's target agenda than terminus as a whole and Caleston rift in particular) long enough to finish off forces in maroon sea.

    [X] Plan Extreme Concentration of Force
    -[X] Inform the Alliance?
    --[X] Yes. They're impacted by this, and you're a formal member now. This is no longer the time to hold back.
    -[X] Call for the Terminus Joint Fleets?
    --[X] No. This isn't the kind of battle they train to fight, and you have yet to thresh out a joint command structure. There are also the obvious political reasons not to call for help on this particular issue.
    -[X] Who reinforces Maroon Sea? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 1st Battle Fleet. You need firepower, you need it now.
    --[X] 1st Raiding Fleet. They will (in part) get there fastest.
    --[X] 3rd Raiding Fleet. They're not in a frontline system, and Mordin is one of your greats.
    -[X] Who holds Attican Beta? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 2nd Raiding Fleet. To be blunt, they offer the least to the actual, ongoing fight in Maroon Sea.

    A slightly heavier response than Concentration of Force. Possibility of encirclement and total destruction of Rachni fleets depending on rolls. Ideal for follow up raid into shadow sea, which is an option upon finishing battle.
     
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    [X] Plan [Concentration of Force]
    [X] Plan [Extreme Concentration of Force]

    I don't like the idea of possibly undercommitting to the MS and getting a lot of our ships shot up in essentially a Pyrrhic victory, so these two
     
    Mh... I might write my own plan later. I'd prefer to ask the terminus to send a fleet to defend AB (they're better suited for relay defense after all) and use that to free more of our well coordinated fleets for maroon sea
     
    Randino Treviani said:
    A single Raiding Fleet and 100% stationary defenses were able to hold off a Rachni Battle fleet for over a day during wrath of the swarm.
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    The Rachni have kinetic barriers now, those estimates have been invalidated by recent developments.

    [X] Plan Ready Reserve
    -[X] Inform the Alliance?
    --[X] Yes. They're impacted by this, and you're a formal member now. This is no longer the time to hold back.
    -[X] Call for the Terminus Joint Fleets?
    --[X] No. This isn't the kind of battle they train to fight, and you have yet to thresh out a joint command structure. There are also the obvious political reasons not to call for help on this particular issue.
    -[X] Who reinforces Maroon Sea? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 1st Battle Fleet. You need firepower, you need it now.
    -[X] Who holds Attican Beta? Check all that apply.
    --[X] 1st Raiding Fleet. It's not their job, but they're present and can (in part) stand up immediately.
    --[X] 2nd Raiding Fleet. To be blunt, they offer the least to the actual, ongoing fight in Maroon Sea.
    --[X] 3rd Raiding Fleet. You trust Mordin to buy time if he needs to.
     
    Pittauro said:
    Mh... I might write my own plan later. I'd prefer to ask the terminus to send a fleet to defend AB (they're better suited for relay defense after all) and use that to free more of our well coordinated fleets for maroon sea
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    Feels like an unnecessary hit to reputation to take when the battle in Maroon sea is quite winnable with low casualties the way things stand provided we commit at least a battle fleet and raiding fleet. We already played games accepting Maroon Sea and doing nothing with it. Last thing we need is to call for aid unnecessarily and worsen our political situation further. Also, there is no guarantee they even grant it. Better to just vote for the ship distribution you think best and not gamble on favorable outcome giving us a battle fleet to defend Attican Beta.
    KhazintheDark said:
    The Rachni have kinetic barriers now, those estimates have been invalidated by recent developments.
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    Some Rachni fleets have been retrofitted with barriers, which are still inferior to ours. 1 out of three thus far. We have no evidence that they'll be fielding further barrier fleets yet, and Attican Beta is a far lower priority target than Caleston Rift or Exodus cluster, do to the greater strategic significance they hold.
     
    KhazintheDark said:
    The Rachni have kinetic barriers now, those estimates have been invalidated by recent developments
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    I wouldn't say that their ships were noted to be running hotter than usual, they might have had to sacrifice endurance to have barriers on their ships. We also don't know how many ships have them this could very well be a test run to see if it's worth refitting their fleets or just better to build a new class entirely.
     
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